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Nexus Icon · Dec 14, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

Keep in mind that Kieron Gillen gave Deus Ex: Invisible War a score in the 90s mind you...
The guy's a pleb.

birdfoot · Dec 14, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Actually, it's quite impossible to compare unless we bring in a context. For example, if we compare both as RPG games then WoW > GW. If we compare them as action games (since they fall more or less into ARPG genre), then GW > WoW.

I don't quite agree that GW's game design is better, I think it's quite subjective. In addition, GW is a simpler game compared to what WoW is. However, GW's game design is definitely quite unique and forms a good foundation for providing more scalability for improvements. If we eliminate the factor of grinding and monthly-subscription, I feel that currently WoW beats GW hands down; and if we consider all the difference in business models, etc, I'd say WoW and GW are both good games that do well in different areas.

In fact, I hope GW can eventually do better in the RPG aspects (i.e. related to PvE gameplay) so that it becomes a more balanced game that does well in both PvP and PvE aspects. GW does fall into the MMORPG category; the only issue was that ANet perceived that GW was structurally different from most MMORPGs out there (being mainly instanced and non-persistent) and that the game was fundamentally designed with PvP in mind, it was more appropriate for them to have coined GW as CORPG (Competitive Online RPG). This I believe was more of expectation management for potential customers.

EternalTempest · Dec 14, 2006, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

Keep in mind that Kieron Gillen gave Deus Ex: Invisible War a score in the 90s mind you...
The guy's a pleb.

Deus Ex and Deus Ex IW are great games, IMHO.

Lag Hell · Dec 14, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

how come in all the WoW forums there r never any "WoW vs [insert game here]" threads... its like theres an overwhelming need to prove something about gw here...

bottom line tho, WoW still has far more players worldwide than gw

Deleet · Dec 14, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

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Originally Posted by Lag Hell

how come in all the WoW forums there r never any "WoW vs [insert game here]" threads... its like theres an overwhelming need to prove something about gw here...

bottom line tho, WoW still has far more players worldwide than gw

More =/= better.

Stemnin · Dec 14, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

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Originally Posted by ischuros

The reviewer was Kieron Gillen,and Nightfall got 89%, the highest score a new game recieved in the issue, beating Splinter Cell Double Agent and ArchLord (nearly doubling it's score, and the only other new MMO reviewed).

Did they play a patched version of Double Agent lol.. and Archlord.. uhh.. ok..

Congrats to NF's score though, I think it's well deserved.

Avarre · Dec 14, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

If this turns into yet another WoW vs GW thread, it will be closed.

Just a reminder.

Riotgear · Dec 14, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by Domino

You can't say GW is a "better designed game" than WoW.... who makes the standards?

If you'd ever experienced an update in WoW, you'd probably see why. Numerous times they've introduced terrible bugs in key abilities (which for some reason never manifest on the test servers) which then don't get fixed for months. They've had a painful number of botched patches. The client has total authority over player movement, so speed/teleport hacks are everywhere, some people farm by teleporting into the ground below thorium veins and mining them, some people solo bosses by kiting them with teleport hacks. GG?

The two aren't really comparable regardless. I'd go as far to say that WoW and GW are polar opposites. Go to the WoW forums and most of them think GW is awful. GW's campaign plays sequentially, almost like a single-player game, and the PvP is more fine-tuned (as PvP was never WoW's focus, as much as they like to claim otherwise).

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how come in all the WoW forums there r never any "WoW vs [insert game here]"

Have you BEEN to the WoW forums? There aren't many unless you go to off-topic, because the mods will close them if they pop up anywhere else. You don't see many quite in that format because with WoW, the decision isn't whether or not to go play something else as whether or not to cancel your subscription.

And in that sense, there are CONSTANTLY players that are complaining the game sucks and will bail the moment the next big MMORPG they think is guaranteed to not suck comes out. Then Vanguard/DDO/whatever comes out and bursts their bubble by, in fact, sucking, and then they pick a new game to threaten to leave to.