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erfweiss · Dec 03, 2006, 06:53 AM // 06:53

I'll be happy to finally get a chance to try this tonight. I've been at work the last two nights and haven't been able to log in to try it. Should be entertaining.

Omega X · Dec 03, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

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Originally Posted by Shaden

That's why it's called an Elite mission. Take note of the word "Elite", non-elite players is not what this is designed for.

Yeah, it was meant for farmers.

Tentigers · Dec 03, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

Im reading some of these posts and I am eerily reminded of when Anet opened the elite mission in factions a while ago.

Heres a direct quote not from 1 person, but from several:

"All you people dont belong here. You all should leave"
"Only the owners and Alliance members should be here"
"You guys are smelling up the place with your noobish smells"

I love the challenge, and I WISH I could to The DEEP or URGOZ. But some people are so STUCKUP.

I am a Veteran player, But I am not an ELITE player. ANYONE who calls themselves ELITE should leave this game and take their ATTITUDES with them.

Earlier today I was asked to join a group and I did. My character was a Ele/Mesmer and the first question I was asked was did I have SF (searing Flames). While I was being asked, I spammed my build and said I could load Mantra frost, flame or lightning, whichever was needed. My point here is that I didnt answer his question fast enough because no sooner did I spamm my build, I was kicked from party and the party leader placed me on ignore before I could even say anything to him.

As for DOA, I have cleared the City, and the Stygian area. Were they hard....yes very. Was it a hand picked "SPECIAL" or "ELITE" only group...no, not even close. It was made up of regular players like myself, spurr of the moment. DOA takes patience, and determination, nothing more. If you are in a party, dont up and leave if you die..MANY times I have gone thru area with 30 to 45 DP and still come out ahead. This game is not only about killing the bad guys, its about you dying also.

If you think you are ELITE, then goto the deep or Urgoz and bury your head under the rocks with the other jerks because we (the Majority) dont want you.

Perishiko ReLLiK · Dec 03, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by S_Sword101

that would be true IF there was only one build that worked. I think most of the people that complain here are too narrow-minded. Think about it, it's been one day, you can't expect for everyone to know everythning about it this soon. Give it time and multiple MULTIPLE builds will develope, and make it to where ANYONE can play and win at this. But until then, i enjoy the challenge, and the variablilty of it. Everytime you enter an area, it's never the exact same, therefore cookie cutter builds will not work every time. Like with how droks running used to be, where there was always one area that could trip you up if you didn't get the right spawns. Don't blame ANet for your loss in this area. It was designed to be difficult, and you SHOULD have trouble in it. It was MEANT to be a challenge, and if you cannot have fun trying to figure out something that works with what you use, then don't do it, and go back to farming, or whatever it is that gives you a sense of satisfaction.

Agreed... Besides, half the game use to be harder. I believe they've appeased the masses enough with the easy missions/explorable area's. Us players that actually like a challenge need more places to go.

natuxatu · Dec 03, 2006, 07:27 AM // 07:27

It's a departure from the rest of Guild Wars as far as difficulty. is that a good thing is what people are arguing about.. I don't think so.. I've like Guild wars how it's always been... if you want a challenge I don't see why players should get one area.. instead go to a different game and keep the majority happy.

Maybe when I wake up there well be some screens of the new weapons... if someone got 100 gems that is.

(sorry for spelling I'm tired.. well and a bad speller.)

Made In Ascalon · Dec 03, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

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Originally Posted by Tentigers

Earlier today I was asked to join a group and I did. My character was a Ele/Mesmer and the first question I was asked was did I have SF (searing Flames). While I was being asked, I spammed my build and said I could load Mantra frost, flame or lightning, whichever was needed. My point here is that I didnt answer his question fast enough because no sooner did I spamm my build, I was kicked from party and the party leader placed me on ignore before I could even say anything to him.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I would smack the guy if I knew him. The idea that you deserve to be kicked and ignored because you don't have an elite on your skill bar is the most unspeakable faggotry I've ever heard.

I'm starting to hate searing flames. It's become the end-all be-all elementalist skill. Maybe it deserves to be nerfed, it seems like it's destroying the credibility of the class.

Eclair · Dec 03, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I would smack the guy if I knew him. The idea that you deserve to be kicked and ignored because you don't have an elite on your skill bar is the most unspeakable faggotry I've ever heard.

I'm starting to hate searing flames. It's become the end-all be-all elementalist skill. Maybe it deserves to be nerfed, it seems like it's destroying the credibility of the class.

I think its more that the other elementalist skills should probably be buffed.

Fluffyx · Dec 03, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I would smack the guy if I knew him. The idea that you deserve to be kicked and ignored because you don't have an elite on your skill bar is the most unspeakable faggotry I've ever heard.

I'm starting to hate searing flames. It's become the end-all be-all elementalist skill. Maybe it deserves to be nerfed, it seems like it's destroying the credibility of the class.

SF will probably see a nerf in the future then never be seen on skill bars again.

Shaden · Dec 03, 2006, 07:58 AM // 07:58

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Originally Posted by Omega X

Yeah, it was meant for farmers.

To bad it's to hard for farmers...to you know, farm. At least, for now. In a few weeks we will see this place full fo some cookie-cutter build, farming things or offering "Hero Runs"... but for now, it isn't a spot you farm. Not to mention a lot of the drops suck...

Omfg_h4x · Dec 03, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Well, I encountered this bug....after defeating and clearing the city I decided to check my quest log for Mallyx and of course its not there, I made sure I had it before my team zoned. Oh well i guess..atleast i stil got an Ancient Armor Remaint and a Margonite Gemstone

...4 hours of my life for a quest I need to redo

w00t! · Dec 03, 2006, 08:23 AM // 08:23

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Originally Posted by Theus

Wow.You're an internet tough guy now kiddo!

And once these builds come out,guess what?

A bunch of classes will be left out simply because they cannot fit in your "UBER GODLY GROUP".And if thats what Anet had planned for this area,then DoA by all means is a failure.Just like Tombs.UW.FoW.Deep.Urgoz.SF.Failures.

Then you're in the wrong guild, or hang with the wrong people. The group I farm with will take just about any class, just for fun. The fact is, each class will have a build that will allow them to be successful down there. Yeah, maybe they're not as fast as the perfect group, but they're usually more fun.

Your comments are valid if all you do is PUG's. It's always tough to get into groups as mesmers, Sins, dervishes. Used to be rangers had the same problem. DoA is no different, and PUGs in their stupidity will always discriminate against anything that goes against their gospel (wiki).

gg

w00t! · Dec 03, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25

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Originally Posted by Spike

No it was'nt NEVER had any problems doing quests at any time there except the last one. Had done all but oros in the first couple of days.

You must of been playing in some REALLY bad groups as I have only failed to do it twice EVER.

See above

Try again 1 out of 3 is'nt good enough.

Uh, you missed the whole sarcasm part of my post completely....

manitoba1073 · Dec 03, 2006, 08:26 AM // 08:26

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Originally Posted by Shaden

To bad it's to hard for farmers...to you know, farm. At least, for now. In a few weeks we will see this place full fo some cookie-cutter build, farming things or offering "Hero Runs"... but for now, it isn't a spot you farm. Not to mention a lot of the drops suck...

funny i solo farm there, theres a good few places it can be done.

Jeff Highwind · Dec 03, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

I found the secret!

Scroll down a bit.

I'll give you a hint, it's an individual character build which was commonly used in HA before the change to 6v6...

[skill=text]Practiced Stance[/skill]/[skill=text]Choking Gas[/skill]!

Take 2 of these Rangers, and the AI Casters, who often clump up, can't do anything. Period. Who cares about 400 Invoke Lightning if they can't do anything about them?

Then just take a Curses Necro or Mesmer to sedate the Melee and Rangers.

Of course, it doesn't work in the Touch Necro area, but you get the point.

Hehe. Now I just have to find someone willing to confirm...sigh. Everyone is running that stupid Mantra of Frost build. I really need to get my Ranger through NF.

Oh god I feel like a freaking moron.
*readies the gassing chambers*

explodemyheart · Dec 03, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42

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Originally Posted by w00t!

Originally Posted by w00t!
Sorrow's Furnace was impossible. After a few weeks, teams of more than 5 were very uncommon.

What? When was Sorrow's Furnace ever even close to impossible? I don't recall ever feeling the same way I do about Domain of Anguish, or Deep or Urgoz. I don't ever recall anybody else complaining about it in game then either.

I was the worst monk EVER when they released SF and I still just don't remember what you speak of.

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Originally Posted by Theus

Theus
A bunch of classes will be left out simply because they cannot fit in your "UBER GODLY GROUP".And if thats what Anet had planned for this area,then DoA by all means is a failure.Just like Tombs.UW.FoW.Deep.Urgoz.SF.Failures.

First of all, you know that long bar on your keyboard? It's called a space bar. They put it on the keyboard for a reason, you should try it out more often.

Second, if finding groups as certain classes is really going to be that hard, you've got several solutions. 1) don't play that class 2) start your own group, I'll bet there'll be more people willing to go along than you'd think, Mr. Bitter McJaded or 3) stfu and go do something else.

I dunno what all of these people are complaining about not being able to find groups. I'm not even looking for groups, and I see things being spammed in towns "GLF mesmer", "GLF rit spirit spammer". And like I said, if you don't see these people, start your own group and quit complaining.

Third, why are you blaming Anet for this anyway? They created something entirely doable, and each class has something to bring to the table for every single one of the areas you mentioned. Just because the masses of the Guild Wars playing community choose to come up with a specific build requiring specific classes, and choose not to think outside of the box doesn't mean that Anet's responsible for it. Blame the people that play the game for being close-minded idiots, Anet didn't force them to be that way.

Irongate · Dec 03, 2006, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by Fluffyx

SF will probably see a nerf in the future then never be seen on skill bars again.

OMG NERF IT THE ONLY F"KING GOOD SKILL ELE's HAVE NOW!!!!

Bankai · Dec 03, 2006, 09:56 AM // 09:56

Actually, I have seen no class discrimination yet.

Cherrie · Dec 03, 2006, 09:58 AM // 09:58

I don't want to argue wheter it's too hard or not, but I'd like to share a nasty feeling I'm having about the way GW is going: I feel like Devs are running out of ideas for amusing things, so they just pick up the easiest way: make things harder. I'm really fed up with the fact that Nightfall involves farming for things that make a difference (f.e. lightbringer points), and I'm kinda scared next chapter is going to be too MMORPG-chore-grind like, with end-area full of 30 lvl mobs with 40 lvl bosses and sick enviromental effects.
I'd change 2 things about DoA - Razah (he's a hero without a counterpart, and a Factions proffesion, so people w/o factions won't get much of him - he should be obtainable in a fairly easy way for pve, like other heroes) and increased party size. More slots = more possible combinations and... we already have 10 proffesions. DoA per se requires more than one healer, and we clearly know some profs are more desirable than others, which makes too many people left out.
Actuallly, I'd change some of the effects to more rational ones too.

Renegade ++RIP++ · Dec 03, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08

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Originally Posted by Ninna

on page 40 (posted this morning) Noocoos group consisted of
- an Assassin, Mesmer, 2 Necros, 1 Ele , 1 monk, Ritualist, 1 Monk hero

they beat the 1st boss...

so where is the paragon, ranger, warrior,dervish ?

On top of that you in essence have 3 monks seeing as the rit was shelterspammer (extra protectmonk), you got a real monk and then another hero monk, which showed that they needed another one but couldn't even get a second one...

Really don't you consider it remotely asinine that this build doesn't even contain even one NF class for an NF zone...

Fluffyx · Dec 03, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

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Originally Posted by Irongate

OMG NERF IT THE ONLY F"KING GOOD SKILL ELE's HAVE NOW!!!!

Sadly its the fate of most skills that are good and find themselves on everyones bar. ;[