Curse

Kha · Nov 30, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by jon0592

Who even uses their heroes? Let alone LOOK at them.

People that like to make themselves feel elite by giving their heroes the rarest of armors and weapons. You know, the ones that have to tell you what so-and-so hero is wielding even if they aren't in the party.

gestalt · Nov 30, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by gabrial heart

I'm not upset that he's a rit, I'm upset that it's one more thing they said and didn't implement, so the list goes on. I know they change things all the time, but the variable idea i thought was pretty outstanding.

I have a good amount of the elite hero armor already and switch whenever i feel like it, so i really don't get the need for more hero armor. As it is I'm pretty set with the idea that heros should just be account wide, outfitting, equiping and organizing 36 or more different heros isn't my idea of a good, time, let alone the ABSOLUTE need for storage for all of them. Gawd forbid i need to move a weapon from dunkoro a to dunkoro b and so on.

No the variable profession idea is pointless and problematic. Who cares if you can change his profession? You have a Hero for each prof. How do you handle runes? Variable runes? How do you handle his weapons? What a nightmare.

A variable profession hero gains you abosolutely nothing since you already have completely configurable heroes for every profession except Rit.

If you had a variable prof hero the only thing you could do is take Razah everytime. But it gives you nothing extra as far as actual team builds, except to perhaps flesh out a few extra prof slots if you want 3 primary monks or something. But that would be far better to do by simply adding in other heroes in updates and expansions.

Once there are 3 heroes of each profession the variable hero idea is completely useless and causes unecessary problems and confusion.

The variable prof idea sounds cool at first but functionally adds nothing but problems

I suspect Anet came to this conclusion.

Geishe · Nov 30, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I highly doubt Razah will be Ritualist, Gaile didnt 100% confirm it. It would not make sense for NF owners to have to suffer with a useless hero. I doubt Anet is that illogical.

MasterThrawn · Nov 30, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

It actually does not make sense. Yeah - why make the Rit Hero Nightfall only, when you can only get the skills if you have Factions. Skill capping I guess. I love Rits though, and will be more than happy to have one. Still doesn't make sense to me - if I didn't have all three chapters, I wouldn't be happy.

Greygon · Nov 30, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

From what I remember the manual said Razah was of an "unknown" profession. That doesn't mean variable does it? We already have 2 Warriors, 2 Monks, 2 Rangers, and 2 Necros... We need a Rit Hero as well.

Besides, like someone else commented, it would be almost impossible to keep up with Runes and Insignias if it was variable.

Don't Worry! Be Happy!

We've got a big update in about 24 hours!

Some people just aren't happy unless they are unhappy.

I know my guild has an exploratory trip into the new area scheduled for tomorrow night.

Senlur · Nov 30, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by Greygon

From what I remember the manual said Razah was of an "unknown" profession. That doesn't mean variable does it? We already have 2 Warriors, 2 Monks, 2 Rangers, and 2 Necros... We need a Rit Hero as well.

Actually, the manual lists his profession as "Variable". It lists the Master of Whispers' profession as "Unknown".

As to if it bothers me if Razah is just a ritualist, I dunno. I'll reserve judgement until I get him and know for sure.

Former Ruling · Nov 30, 2006, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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I highly doubt Razah will be Ritualist, Gaile didnt 100% confirm it.

She didn't in her Chat Logs ingame (She just said, he might be a Ritualist, but she doesn't remember), but on GWonline she did follow up that statement, with no uncertian words, saying that yes - Razah is a Ritualist but she cannot give anymore information than that.

So the arguement that she didn't confirm it is mute, but what you CAN speculate is the fact that she might not be giving us the whole story, like the idea that his profession is variable is still alive - She just confirmed that he is a ritualist she didn't confirm or deny whether that can be changed or not.

I still think he is just a ritualist though, it saves me grief. IF I think he is a ritualist and he turns out changable - Cool, but if he just turns out a ritualist I won't be setting myself up for disappointment.

In the same post she also confirmed that the new "Novel Armor" is for your Heros, not yourself.

Myria · Nov 30, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Greygon

From what I remember the manual said Razah was of an "unknown" profession. That doesn't mean variable does it?

The Nightfall manual, page 36, states --

Razah
Unformed Hero

“I live to serve.”

Origin: The Mists
Age: Inapplicable
Profession: Variable

Quid Pro Quo · Nov 30, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

My guess is that Razah's proffession will be chosen once you get to him. His proffession will probably be locked once you pick it.

Fluffyx · Nov 30, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

I don't know where everyone got the idea that a variable profession would mean you could change his primary in an outpost. It sounded more like when you met him you could chose what he would form as.

Ninna · Nov 30, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by reetkever

making Razah a ritualist is wrong! People who only have nightfall can't give the poor hero skills.

there are skills - altho limited
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ritualist_Nightfall_skills
and the hero will come with some base skills

I personally prefer Razah as Ritualist -- even if I didnt own Factions

Horseman Of War · Nov 30, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by Myria

The Nightfall manual, page 36, states --

Razah
Unformed Hero

“I live to serve.”

Origin: The Mists
Age: Inapplicable
Profession: Variable

thank you

Greygon · Nov 30, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Senlur and Myria are correct. I stand humbly corrected.

Variable WOULD work if you chose his/her/its profession once at the time you get the hero. Lock in the primary profession one time.

Personally, I still think it will be a Rit. I'm ok with that. Adding a Rit to the hero builds I already have can only make them better in most cases.

I can see a 2 person/6 hero build that would just OWN.

natuxatu · Nov 30, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

My question is.. which i didn't see on Guildwars.com is when will open? Midnight PST or Noon PST o_O I want to know if i need to stay up late or not

Count to Potato · Nov 30, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Its says late evening but thats late eveing PST so for me 3 in the morning saturday, in the scribe is says any day or hour???

Guardian of the Light · Dec 01, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo

My guess is that Razah's proffession will be chosen once you get to him. His proffession will probably be locked once you pick it.

I hope that isn't the case but if it is I'm definitely making him a Rt.

Kalki · Dec 01, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by scrinner

On the comment of rings... Now arent you guys just speculating a bit.. Too much? Also i believe they added something of the sort during the beta of guildwars but was removed before prophecies was released. Dont quote me on that though

How many people were able to predict Observer Mode coming last December? No one. I'm not getting my expectations too high, but I expect Anet to surprise us a little bit.

Cronnie · Dec 01, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Well it seems Razah is a rit (at first), according to the priest of balth.

Zinger314 · Dec 01, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

For emphasis, the Seer of Truths in the Chantry of Secrets, the path to the Domain of Anguish, spawns without needing favor.

black_mamba · Dec 01, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

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Originally Posted by Geishe

It would not make sense for NF owners to have to suffer with a useless hero. I doubt Anet is that illogical.

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suffer? useless? I dont know about you, but I think rits are very usefull!

they can heal, protect, deal a good amout of damg and solo alot of places.

Anet illogical? haha