Curse

Alleji · Jan 16, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Originally Posted by [Apple]

[skill]Hamstring[/skill][skill]Fire Storm[/skill]

No power attack? :/

Apple · Jan 16, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

A DEADLY COMBINATION: Strike with a Hamstring attack to cripple your fleeing opponent, then rain fire down upon him as he slowly limps away.

Yichi · Jan 16, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

box builds FTW!

Makkert · Jan 16, 2007, 08:22 AM // 08:22

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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked

I play RA alot with my monk. I don't usually play a healing monk because you need protection from wars, sins, thumpers wailing on you. So, until recently I'd come across a touchie once and awhile and they'd tear me apart because im prot and the most I can do is heal myself with Divine Favor. But recently they've invaded. Just about every match now there is a touchie and it's starting to get on my nerves. I play HA with my guildies too. In HA, the most elite PvP arena, there was a group of touchies. I know this has been brought up before, but touchies are getting out of hand. Does anyone want to enlighten me as how I, a monk, can stop a touchie? Also I think that people that play touchies are the people that haven't played the game for too long. Am I right on this? Why do people play touchie's? There are so many better builds out there. Why hasn't Anet lit it up with the nerf laser yet?

lol.
sorry, but this is quite funny.

1) HA is not the 'most elite pvp arena'. if anything is that, its GvG. period.

2) touchies aren't that great. kite kite kite. if one of your teammates is silly enough to stand still, only then do touchers become annoying. So kite, cripple, slow hex, kd, diversion, etc.

3) if you only can heal yourself with Divine Favor against a touchie, take another look at your bar, because you are missing some power-healing. Gift of Health, Zealous Benediction, Blessed Light for example are heals that fit on a prot monk's bar.

4) yes, i think its save to say that most touchers are new players.

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Build mechanics 101: every build has a counter. some counters you just run into more than others.

if your build does great against every other builds, just does bad against touchers, than unfortunately the toucher build is a counter to your build. youll either have to change your build to adapt to counter touchers, or just deal with it and go back in

thats about honestly the only advice you can follow.

Since every build can kite, and every build should have a snare in some form imho, I'm going to disagree with you here Yichi. If you lose to touchers, its often you're own mistake and not the mistake of the build.

Shadowfox1125 · Jan 16, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

To be honest, I was really dissapointed in [card]"Can't Touch This!"[/card]

10e for maybe 4 touch skills, with a 20 sec recharge..

I played RA once this week and won 11 consecutive times. No touchers.
Cripple, Snares, E-Den, Diversion, Maybe even Blackout -> quick spike

Maria The Princess · Jan 16, 2007, 08:44 AM // 08:44

there was a huuuuuuuuuge ~50 pages thread about touchies

some whining, some flaming, some giving counter builds... chec out the ranger forum if its still there

Yichi · Jan 16, 2007, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by Makkert

Since every build can kite, and every build should have a snare in some form imho, I'm going to disagree with you here Yichi. If you lose to touchers, its often you're own mistake and not the mistake of the build.

Actually that isnt always the case. the only snare for monks i can think of is return (which in itself is gimped due to its lack of crippeled time), which even then if youre facing a good mesmer on the other team, youre still screwed. and there isnt a hex in the necro line that ive EVER seen run in either TA, RA, GVG, HA...

yes rangers, warriors, dervishes, mesmers, eles all have viable hexes, where as necro, monk, rit get kind of screwed...

Skuld · Jan 16, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06

You're rank 7, gladiator 2 and whining about touchies? A dead build that is easy to beat? 3 guesses how he got that hero title...

Apple · Jan 16, 2007, 09:08 AM // 09:08

There's really two possibilities. Both have 4 letters.

EDIT : And end in _ _ AY

Makkert · Jan 16, 2007, 09:18 AM // 09:18

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Actually that isnt always the case. the only snare for monks i can think of is return (which in itself is gimped due to its lack of crippeled time), which even then if youre facing a good mesmer on the other team, youre still screwed. and there isnt a hex in the necro line that ive EVER seen run in either TA, RA, GVG, HA...

yes rangers, warriors, dervishes, mesmers, eles all have viable hexes, where as necro, monk, rit get kind of screwed...

I was talking about a teambuild.
if you are talking about RA, the chances of facing 4 touchies are pretty slim. And one toucher can be kited quite well.

As for 'if you are facing a good mesmer', well if the heavens fall on our head, we're all dead.
1) the amount of 'good mesmers' in RA is pretty low
2) without somewhat half-decent teammates, you would lose anyway. toucher or no toucher.

greetings Makk.

Avarre · Jan 16, 2007, 10:17 AM // 10:17

The sheer amount of spam posts, flame comments, and simple misinformation in this thread is staggering.

Or, to put in in other terms...

This is clearly a high-quality thread filled with high-quality posts.

This thread is closed for now. If you have a solid, convincing reason for it's reopening, PM one of the mods so it can be cleaned and returned to service. Preferably in the correct (PvP) section.