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noir0 · Jan 17, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Conspiracy theory time!!

Utopia means no place right? so guild wars no place(utopia) the registered domain... could be some sort of pre regesterd sight to sayt there will be something there but not yet? or.. i think i got my wording wrong >_>

tre_peter · Jan 17, 2007, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by lightblade

The gold selling ad is provided by google. It is in no way connected to NCsoft or ArenaNet.

It's kind of obvious they didn't make that page, I didn't suggest that. I only said they don't back buying ingame items.

It isn't beyond NCSofts abilities to make a simple page saying 'coming soon' or 'under construction'.

And how do people get that registration info?

Phenick · Jan 17, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Wouldn't it be giving away more information if they made a place holder page?

Vinraith · Jan 17, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

"Utopia" sounds like the name of a fansite, really. We know for a fact that it's NCsoft that registered the name?

tre_peter · Jan 17, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Phenick

Wouldn't it be giving away more information if they made a place holder page?

I don't think so, not if it had nothing on it, if it just said 'this domain has been registered', it wouldn't be telling more than already given on the current one.

I still don't know how people find this registration info out. Maybe they are leet hackers and I am just a noob...

FeuerFrei · Jan 17, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

still no confirmation from gaile or alex?

Free Runner · Jan 17, 2007, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by tre_peter

I don't think so, not if it had nothing on it, if it just said 'this domain has been registered', it wouldn't be telling more than already given on the current one.

I still don't know how people find this registration info out. Maybe they are leet hackers and I am just a noob...

Again they do not create new chapter sites. They link them to the official site.

And all it takes is a simple WHOIS lookup. As posted by Neven and Me the GUILDWARSNIGHTFALL.COM and GUILDWARSUTOPIA.COM registrars appear to be the same.

Coridan · Jan 17, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

EDIT:::::

info was already posted

Silly Warrior · Jan 17, 2007, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

"Utopia" sounds like the name of a fansite, really. We know for a fact that it's NCsoft that registered the name?

Anet highly values their Fansites for Guild Wars. The last thing they would do would be make a website. With that said, we know the following.

It is registered under NC/Anet...which proves that its NOT fansite, maybe an Anet forum, but that wouldn't make any sense, because Anet loves their fansites and forums.

And yes, NCsoft registered the name....

So looking at the history, we can easily assume that this is the next game, duh.

They made the same types of websites for Factions and Nightfall, why not Utopia?

It has to be Utopia...theres no other logical reason for them to reserve those domain names.

uther necro · Jan 17, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

when does this one come out? if im correct april and they still have had no press releases on it...

**cosyfiep** · Jan 17, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

well, not that I really care what the next chapter will be called, but from past experience I can assume that the only good thing about it will be the armors since its the factions team working on it.............

Neven15 · Jan 17, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

well, not that I really care what the next chapter will be called, but from past experience I can assume that the only good thing about it will be the armors since its the factions team working on it.............

dude for me factions armor sucked, nihtfall armors are better but thats just
my point of armor view

King Kong · Jan 17, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Maybe its for a wiki! they did think about it, if i remember right...

NinjaKai · Jan 17, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by King Kong

Maybe its for a wiki! they did think about it, if i remember right...

My thoughts are along the same line. The idea of it being a centralised area for information seems more probable than most of the other wild fantasies flying around.

Liberations · Jan 17, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by lightblade

Pet - Hearty Bird of Paradise

Dear Arenanet, you have been sued for using a trademark of Wizards of the Coast inc.

Actually i dont know if Wizards cpyrighted that Magic: The Gathering Card, but the card "Birds of Paradise might be too similar to the card name to be excepted. OFF TOPIC

Anyway I don't really like the name and I could definitely see people being embarrased to pick it up in the store... PLEASE DONT USE THIS NAME!

Also, I hope this chapter is as good or better than Nightfall and recieves a fair rating from the reviewers and good publicity, else Guild Wars might never rise out of the black hole it would be heading for.

Horseman Of War · Jan 18, 2007, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by lightblade

Here's a Nightfall concept art revealing a flail wielding warrior. It could be a profession in C4

the chains hang from both wrists, thats not his weapon. Im assuming those are javelins on his back and not arrows.

And btw im also thinking GW:"Utopia" is so lame it hurts.

Winterclaw · Jan 18, 2007, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

I wonder what lies east of Ascalon/Crystal Desert and north of Vabbi? I can't remember anyone discussing that before. The majority seem to be talking about west/north of Tyria (which are the more probable locations for C4, but still). We also know that there are many hidden reefs/islands between Elona and Cantha, navigated by the Corsairs and the Luxons.

East or south of Cantha is also something to think about... and then there's the possibility of a 'new world' chapter across the 'unending ocean'... but I won't deny that the most convincing idea for C4 is the Mursaat homeland, west of the Maguuma. A northern continent comes second place for me, since I asked Gaile whether there was anything north of Tyria and she had never heard of it before. That could just be a 'I know nothing' cover-up, though

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Good question. I'm guessing more deserts to the east unless there is an appreciable body of water. Maybe some more charr controled lands to the north-east. I think the charr come from the north so there has to be at least some non-artic lands still to the north of ascalon. While we are on the subject, I wonder what's to the west of the magumma jungle.

fRag_Doll · Jan 18, 2007, 09:23 AM // 09:23

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Originally Posted by MegaMouse

For frag Doll: love how you put the maps together. Heck I never even thought of doing that. Good job this clears up a few questions that even I was wondering on. In agreement on the possible placement of Cantha, not sure exactly where it will fit in in the future.

Mega Mouse

Thanks MM.

I've done a little research into the whole "hints are in the manuscripts" rumour and come up with a revised version of the Tyrian world map.

According to page 47 of the GW:NF manuscripts,

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Corsairs
"The corsairs have remained free by learning to survive in treacherous waters, sailing where the Istani will not follow. Their fleets remain hidden near the most dangerous stretches of the Elonian coast. Between the northwest coast of Cantha and the southern rim of Elona, a deadly sea is troubled by sudden storms and cyclones, hidden reefs and dangerous sea creatures."

So, this seems to be a more logical position for Cantha.

I also found something interesting in the Prophecies manuscripts.

Page 38, Saul D'Alessio - Founder of the White Mantle.

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"Saul D'Alessio was a fallen man. A gambler and a drunk, Saul reached the lowest point in his life when he lost a bet he could not repay. At the time, the local betting house was run by the Lucky Horseshoe, a gambling guild whose influence spanned almost the entire length of the continent. To avoid defaulting on his payment, Saul took to robbing merchants travelling the road from Beetletun to Shaemoor. Though he successfully paid his debt to the Lucky Horseshoe, he was eventually fingered by one of his victims and tried as a thief. His punishment was exile from the Kingdom of Kryta. The authorities blindfolded him and rode him out three weeks before leaving him to fend for himself.

Alone, broke and lost, Saul wandered through a dense forrest for several days, surviving on only roots and berries. On the fourth day, delerious with hunger, Saul emerged from the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination - a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. The architecture was astounding and the creatures who lived there were unlike any he had ever seen. Walking down into their city, Saul got a closer look at the denizens of this place. They were talll and thin with strange wing-like appendages that waved about in the slightest breeze. When they walked, their feet seemed not to touch the ground, and when they spoke, it was the most melodious sound he had ever heard. Surely these creatures were the stuff of divinity. Hungry and exhausted, his clothes ragged and dirty, Saul dropped to his knees and touched his forehead to the ground. He had found his gods and they, in turn, had found their most devoted disciple."

Now, anyone that has played through Prophecies will know that this is about the Mursaat, but what I found interesting is the description of their city.
It sounds like a pretty typical description of 'Utopia' to me, and the "rode him out for three weeks" part would logically have to be west of Kryta, since east is the Shiverpeaks, north is Charr lands and south is an ocean.

I can see why the Mursaat homeland is a popular theory for C4.

Symeon · Jan 18, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by fRag_Doll

I'm pretty sure that's not the correct position of Cantha. Jiaju Tai (Canthan NPC in Lion's Arch) describes Cantha as 'south, across the ocean... past the ruins of Orr, past the islands of fire, past the crystal lands of burning sun, and beyond the clashing seas.' There is no mention of passing Elona there, only the southern lands of Tyria, and then you head out into the clashing seas. Besides, don't you think we would have noticed we were passing Elona as we were on the ship to Cantha?

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"Between the northwest coast of Cantha and the southern rim of Elona, a deadly sea is troubled by sudden storms and cyclones, hidden reefs and dangerous sea creatures."

This sentence does not place Cantha southeast of Elona. Look at it like this:

(not to scale - the distance between Elona and Cantha is probably a lot greater, so these 'deadly seas' would cover a much larger area)

The red line goes from 'the southern rim of Elona' to 'the northwest coast of Cantha', and the 'deadly seas' are between those two points. So, I think that sentence just means 'from this corner to this corner'.

Also, there is likely some space between the Tyria and Elona maps - if you look at the dark, rocky area of the northern Desolation, and then the sandy Crystal Desert, you can see that they do not match.

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Now, anyone that has played through Prophecies will know that this is about the Mursaat, but what I found interesting is the description of their city.
It sounds like a pretty typical description of 'Utopia' to me, and the "rode him out for three weeks" part would logically have to be west of Kryta, since east is the Shiverpeaks, north is Charr lands and south is an ocean.

The Shiverpeaks don't necessarily spread north of Kryta. The 'dense forest' that Saul D'Alessio wandered through could lie in the green lands north of Nebo Terrace, above the two giant lakes.

My best guess is that a Central/Southern American continent covered in jungle and rocky mountains lies west of the Maguuma. A chapter set there would fit the 'Mayan/Aztec theme' that Michel of Easy Interactive spoke of. I just wonder how 'Utopia' relates to this... Shangri-La springs to mind, though not South American, the Himalayan setting could easily be slotted into a mountain range resembling the Andes.

The Great Al · Jan 18, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by noir0

Conspiracy theory time!!

Utopia means no place right? so guild wars no place(utopia) the registered domain... could be some sort of pre regesterd sight to sayt there will be something there but not yet? or.. i think i got my wording wrong >_>

What? No...I don't think this is game that you need to overanalyze