Curse

Takuna · Feb 18, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by explodemyheart

If you think the fact that everybody gets an opportunity to get an item a fiasco, then I feel sorry for you and I suggest maybe stepping outside for awhile, because you're taking the internets far to seriously.

There were lots of people who opened up hundreds of fortunes and didn't get a pig. I'm sure many of those people are pleased now that they were able to get one. It's nobody's fault but your own that you wasted time trying to get a pig from a lunar fortune.

So you don't have an item that you can sell for lots of money and you can't use the mini pig for a status symbol. Oh well, you'll get over it.

Ok, firstly, the first paragraph is he age-old insult disguised as good advice where you tell the other person that they play the computer too much... He probably doesn't, you know. Even if he did, it's none of your bussiness, leave him alone.

Second paragraph, I have to strongly disagree. If I had opened hundreds of fortunes for this pig and then just gotten it anyway, I WOULD NOT be thinking, "Oh, I got a pig, just what I was after, I'm glad I got this pig because I really liked it." I would be saying something along the lines of, "I spent one heck of alot of time to get these tickets and it turns out I didn't have to? And now EVERYONE has one?!? What a freaking waste!"

Third paragraph, I didn't even think about selling my pig. And I got one before they all fell from the sky into everyone's bags.

mr master · Feb 18, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

I agree with everything you just said, great post.

Edge Martinez · Feb 18, 2007, 10:22 AM // 10:22

I respect the OP's opinion, however I had fun with this thing. I wasn't really looking to get anything handed to me, and the fireworks were a decent bonus. The fact that they're handing out a hat is great, and maybe even a pig... wonderful. It was a great event IMO. I didn't win any beetle races and didn't make the top ten, but I always tried. What's the point of not attacking people so we get better scores? I attacked those guys first.

Oblivion Odyssey · Feb 18, 2007, 10:25 AM // 10:25

Hey some well thought through posts! /cheer!

I won't ask for this to be closed then, personally I think it's really sad insulting someone over their opinions on a computer game.

Anet do a FANTASTIC job of running this game, but I tihnk they got it wrong with this event, in particualr the pig. Thanks to those who posted thoughtfully (those who agreed with me and those who didnt), you make it worth putting up with all the other bs.

Whoever posted about questing with your friends (its not worth looking back to quote it), you can adventure with your friends at any time and do anything in this game, and every single person in the game will get a mini pig if they are playing regularily, so there's no one to give my extra pigs to.

mr master · Feb 18, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

I have respect for Anet. They have made mistakes with festivals, imo but I'm sure there is a lot of work put into them and they can't make everyone happy.

sixdartbart · Feb 18, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by Takuna

I got one before they all fell from the sky into everyone's bags.

Ahhh so you got one during the coding glitch that was causing them too spawn to often from fortunes? lol

I will never understand why so many people do nothing but piss and moan about "FREE" events that Anet puts the time effort and money into putting on for us.
They have no requirements to do any of these events but for every one they do there is always this garbage about "how much time I wasted blah blah blah" think about how dumb "time wasted" sounds when your talking about sitting on your arse playing a video game!

Cacheelma · Feb 18, 2007, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Seriously, this whole mini-pig thing people are complaining about has all come down to this: I worked hard to get the pig and I should be recognized as such.

You know what? Get over it. Even if there's no pig-giveaway at each finale, do you really believe that everyone will think that you've opened a million of Lunar Fortune before you got the pig?

I, for one, won't. Why? Because you can also buy a pig from other people, at various prices (some even lower than the price you might have to pay had you chose to open the fortune), and then lie about how you've opened only 2 fortune and got it (I'm so l33t lucky!). Seriously, does that make any different?

All in all, if you can buy an item, you won't be able to "show-off" that item as anything but "I got it somehow", no matter how expensive it is. (Ebay, anyone?)

Oblivion Odyssey · Feb 18, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Ahhh so you got one during the coding glitch that was causing them too spawn to often from fortunes? lol

I will never understand why so many people do nothing but piss and moan about "FREE" events that Anet puts the time effort and money into putting on for us.
They have no requirements to do any of these events but for every one they do there is always this garbage about "how much time I wasted blah blah blah" think about how dumb "time wasted" sounds when your talking about sitting on your arse playing a video game!

Oh god please lets not get into the "you're spending your time playing a video game" argument, by that definition every single complaint posted on these forums is useless. Anet does a fantastic job, I respect them enormously, however imo they got it wrong with this festival. I think it's great that Anet put their time into festivals but let's not kid ourselves they do it for the benefit of keeping people playing the game as well, a festival breaks monotony nicely.

As to the above post, I was wondering when the ebay argument would pop up, it always does no matter how unrelevant it is

The pig thing comes down to the fact people spent time and effort getting one only to have them fall from the sky free-for-all. Fair enough? I don't care about status symbols at all.

sixdartbart · Feb 18, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

And I am one of the people who spent a large amount of time getting and opening those (800 to be exact) and didn't get a pig because I didn't open them when they were popping up all the time.
I really don't care about the pig one way or another I got alot of gold from the fortunes and was mostly doing R/P/S for the sweet tooth title.

I'm not saying anything about how much time anyone spends doing whatever they want to do but to come here and complain about Anet wasted my time when you are the one who decided to do whatever it was you are bitching about is just silly to me.

Cacheelma · Feb 18, 2007, 10:58 AM // 10:58

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Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey

As to the above post, I was wondering when the ebay argument would pop up, it always does no matter how unrelevant it is

The pig thing comes down to the fact people spent time and effort getting one only to have them fall from the sky free-for-all. Fair enough? I don't care about status symbols at all.

And then why did you spend time and effort for it? So that you can get it? Ok. Then what's wrong with it falling down from the sky later? Did you lose yours? No. You may feel like you've wasted your time. But you chose to do it yourself. And you got it in the end as well. Why complaining?

Oblivion Odyssey · Feb 18, 2007, 11:00 AM // 11:00

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

I'm not saying anything about how much time anyone spends doing whatever they want to do but to come here and complain about Anet wasted my time when you are the one who decided to do whatever it was you are bitching about is just silly to me.

I beg to differ please reread your previous post

Of course I choose what I do but I still dont appreciate my time was wasted by a stupid move of pigs falling from the sky. Pigs do fly.

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

And then why did you spend time and effort for it? So that you can get it? Ok. Then what's wrong with it falling down from the sky later? Did you lose yours? No. You may feel like you've wasted your time. But you chose to do it yourself. And you got it in the end as well. Why complaining?

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

And again how was your time wasted by this? you wanted a pig apparently,you got a pig and OMG now more people have them.
As Cacheelma asked "did you lose yours"

Well seeing as you asked for an answer ive given 10 times I'll tell you again, I am annoyed because people got the pig for doing nothing whereas many people spent hours earning one, and there is no difference between either outcome, getting one falling from the sky or earning one, I don't really understand what me choosing to do it has to do with this argument, everything we do in this game is what we chose to do, that doesn't mean our time can't be wasted by a silly move. I may as well have lost mine. Obviously to a far greater scale, imagine everybody got free FoW armor... would the people who had already earned theirs be thrilled?

sixdartbart · Feb 18, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05

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Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey

I still dont appreciate my time was wasted by a stupid move of pigs falling from the sky. Pigs do fly.

And again how was your time wasted by this? you wanted a pig apparently,you got a pig and OMG now more people have them.

As Cacheelma asked "did you lose yours"

Mournblade · Feb 18, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

The festivals are for FUN. If you participate in the hopes of making money then you run the risk of being disappointed. I'm sorry some of you were disappointed.

Mwen · Feb 18, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35

IMO: The problem with the pigs was the coding error that allowed you to get more out of the bags in the first few hours. I believe that sort of made folks feel like, well, if I want to get one, I better buy one *right now* from one of the folks who opened fortunes and got multiple pigs, 'cause the drop rate has decreased and I probably won't get another. I do feel really sorry for the folks who paid big money in the beginning. You can call them fools and such, but it's just human nature to get caught up in the event with everything swirling.

That said, I really did like the event. Two sticky points: It took me a while to realize that opening the fortunes really doesn't give you anything all that wonderful. There's no need to farm tokens on all characters. Also, as stated here, the pig shouldn't have been included in the fortunes at all, really.

Cacheelma · Feb 18, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37

If you want the pig for yourself, why would you care about how other people get theirs?

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Originally Posted by Oblivion Odyssey

I am annoyed because people got the pig for doing nothing whereas many people spent hours earning one, and there is no difference between either outcome, getting one falling from the sky or earning one,

Whatever happened to your noble "I don't care about status symbols at all."?

Lamont Shadow · Feb 18, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38

i don't think people are really angry about the time, money, or what they did or didn't get

I think what upsets people is that Anet is responsible for managing the economy in the world they created and in this case they screwed up big time.

First they introduce an item (at apparently a moderately high drop rate), then they vastly limit its availability by reducing the drop rate or cutting it off althogether for a time driving up the price - then they dump a glut on the market tanking the price.

If a real world government had done that it would have caused a major economic disaster.

So i think people are angry because in this case anet behaved very irresponsibly and by doing so frustrated people. I

Zinger314 · Feb 18, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

I did not spend much time in the event (I did one bout of Roller Beetle Racing...before I learned it was rigged), and just leveled my Draenei Shaman in WoW...atleast I didn't miss much.

But EVERYONE IN THIS TOPIC has missed the true problem.

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Seriously, this whole mini-pig thing people are complaining about has all come down to this: I worked hard to get the pig and I should be recognized as such.

Yes. But it's not the OP's fault. It's ArenaNet's

If ArenaNet had even hinted that there would be a "rare minipet during the finale!" people would have expected the Minature Pig and planned accordingly. Thus, less dissappointment.

ArenaNet has always sucked at weighing risk vs. reward; it's the nature of the game (see the new improved Mallyx the Unyielding)

I believe the true problem is a lack of information from ArenaNet with respect to event. We never did figure out what the Lucky Aura did, right?

Skye Marin · Feb 18, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

If there was a second minipet given at the finale, there wouldn't be a problem here, really.

Nothing is cool if other people have it. :P

Clone · Feb 18, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

I thought the event was decent. Free pet, free hat, a few random free items, and a bit of free cash. A bit too much grinding or difficulty to coordinate a good feast, but overall good.

You could certianly debate whether the time spent making this could have been better spent making other lasting improvments to the game. Opportunity costs are a very interesting concept, and in the end I probably would have gotten more use out of a weapon mod trader or some other sort of trade improvements. But, this was still good.

stiffler · Feb 18, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

If the mini pig was just a white mini, not gold, that might have been a slight hint as to its rarety.