Curse

bobrath · Mar 13, 2007, 01:27 PM // 13:27

IMO, part of the reason for changing from skill quest rewards to exp and gold was to put another gold sink into the game. Yes it encourages more variety in the builds early on, but then how many folks playing now don't have specific builds in mind when they start a new char?

My own goal is to unlock all the skills, but across all my characters and not just one (elites excepted since I want the titles). So yeah, I've got the unlock checklist and happily tick off new inscriptions, runes, and spells that I knock off each night.

Spazzer · Mar 13, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Tozen

My current goal right now is to have every skill in the game available on my PvE assassin. However, at 1k a pop, these things are adding up quick.

I had to pay it, and so I believe you should have to, too.

Buy less 15k armors.

Orbberius · Mar 13, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by jkyarr

I think the best solution is to create quests that players can take to learn a skill! Questing for skills in Prophecies was IMO much more fun and gratifying than questing for a piddly 500 xp and 10 gp. Why oh why did ArenaNet decide to make no quests to unlock skills in Nightfall and Factions? Personally I think every skill ought to be unlockable via quest.

I am agreeing with you so hard right now.

Please bring back skills quests!

As it is, none of the quests are really worth doing, because all you get is 2000xp, 200 gold and some Insightful Hammer of Mediocrity for your ele... Come on now...

Make every single skill for that chapter, for your primary profession, available as part of skills quests. Leave the grinding to the elite skills.

Shmanka · Mar 13, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by Spazzer

I had to pay it, and so I believe you should have to, too.

Buy less 15k armors.

What if I can't control myself and just got my second set of FoW?

Series · Mar 13, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by peterchen620

Personally... I only find 'Signet of Capture' are worth 1k. The rest of the skills should be free, consider that you gain those skill points from experience. It will give a new mean to gain more EXP after getting to level 20.

Skill quest will be a great addition, but it will become too time consuming for the devs to rewrite quests, and making them.

Quoted for truth... that's a great idea... Cap Sigs for 1k each and other skills cost only skill points. Right now I just learn all the PRIMARY skills then whatever secondary ones are needed for my builds because it's too time consuming learning every single one.

noblepaladin · Mar 13, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Orbberius

I am agreeing with you so hard right now.

Please bring back skills quests!

As it is, none of the quests are really worth doing, because all you get is 2000xp, 200 gold and some Insightful Hammer of Mediocrity for your ele... Come on now...

Make every single skill for that chapter, for your primary profession, available as part of skills quests. Leave the grinding to the elite skills.

The problem with skill quests in prophecies is that it forced people to play a particular build throughout most of the game, because they don't have any other options. If I remember correctly, most people were really happy when Factions first game out and it got rid of skill quests. Shorter quests which gives gold and experience allows you to level up (get skill points) and buy the skills you want. Also, those reward items such as Luxon Totems, Kournan Coins, Imperial Commandations, etc are worth quite a bit (you can get 200g each if you trade 5 of them for a superior salvage and then sell it to merchant, they are worth even more if you use the superior salvage yourself and save on buying expert salvage kits). Also, the old system of skill quests would give a significant advantage to foreign characters. Most builds rely heavily on three or four critical skills, and the "buy your own skills" system allows you to get those skills first. Nobody would party with a new character because they have really crappy skill bars.

Alternatively, they can make a few beginner quests that lets the user choose any skill as the reward. But that is essentially the same as giving them 1k gold. The new treasure chests found in Elona can be viewed as free gold for fighting your way to them (that is essentially a free skill).

People want skill quests because they think they are getting skills without spending gold. You are still spending time, and if you ccould have earned 1k gold in that time, then the new system is better. If you do not want cool looking weapons or cool looking armor, you can unlock all your skills very quickly (that 15k armor is equivalent to 75 skills, some cool looking sword worth 20k is equal to 20 skills). Problem is people want vanity and then they complain that skills take too long to acquire. I'm not saying that it is very easy to unlock all skills, but if you don't care about cool skins, you can unlock all your skills pretty quickly (probably just as quick as if skill quests were the only way to get skills).

I am a victim of vanity too. One of my goals is to unlock all skills, however, I don't have any ritualist, assassin, dervish or paragon skills unlocked. My mesmer does have a really nice wardrobe collection though (I also have over 300 unused skill points on all my characters combined, if I spent the gold on skills instead of my mesmer, I would probably be very close to all skills unlocked).