Mar 05, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45
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#241
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Academy Page
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Hi all,
Well i guess i'll be playing Guild Wars until 2009...because there's no frekin way I'll waste my time playing with a stupid Chaar...Humans FTW.
Now serious...GW2...strating everything from start after investing so much and with so much story to explore in GW...A.NET can count another one out of their plans.
I just hope this news is BS and there's a good explanation to everything, because no software house can survive 2 years without any huge incoming profit (like an expansion).
Stay Cool.
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Mar 05, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46
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#242
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Academy Page
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I am calling complete and total BS on this one.
To start off, the article is full of grammar mistakes. If they didn't take the time to run a simple spellchecker, I aint going to trust them to get thier facts straight.
They say at the beginning: "NCSoft has announced...", yet NCSoft has made no such announcement. A check of all thier recent press releases has not revealed anything, and thier site is mum as well.
They never once mentioned Anet. Anet is the developer not NCSoft. Even if it was close to true, it would have been talking about Anet, not NCSoft.
The expansion format. All expansions are standalone, and I find it hard to believe that Anet would follow the model they say here. (you must own an existing campaign, and the price dropped down)
Thier "numbers" i.e. 18 new multi-level dungeons. First of all, since when did the term multi-level dungeon apply to GW? It sounds like he is talking about a totally different MMO. Also, those numbers seem way off, as others have mentioned. 150 skills is by no means massive, and 40 armor sets is on the scale of an expansion not an add-on as they claim.
Guild wars and Eye of the North, nor any possible combination of the above is registered in any .com, .net, or .biz. No company in thier right mind would announce a title without having first registered the namespace. Heck, companies register dozens of names they never even use just to cover thier bases. (see guildwarsutopia)
All of the press releases and data from Anet and NCSoft do not support the claim of an "announcement"
All in all, complete and total BS
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Mar 05, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48
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#243
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2006
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmanka
Blizzard used Plague Touch on Anet, lets hope Gaile can Dshot this.
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I think she should just use Can't touch this instead..
is harder to dshot the touch than just make it fail..
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Mar 05, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50
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#244
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Underworld Spelunker
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has anybody else besides me wondered why a site not even listed gets something like this and every other site wasnt there?
why it wasnt leaked to a known site?
the inquirer?
late inquirer update
ELVIS WILL BE A PLAYABLE HERO
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Mar 05, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55
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#245
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Academy Page
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: CA
Guild: Dark Order of Innoruuk [DOI]
Profession: R/Rt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marth Reynolds
And of course if it's true and you can't bring old chars to GW2, man gw2 is so gonne be doomed then....
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Thats such BS. Do you know how many people that Play EQ1 still bought and played EQ2? Almost everyone I used to play with(In the 100's, myself included) still pays subs for both accounts(eq1 and 2). If you are a diehard GW-er it wont be that big of a change.
Besides, something fresh to go play when GW1 is starting to grind would be most welcomed by now.
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Mar 05, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55
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#246
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: The German Order [GER]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Anet would rather make GW open source than take the server offline.
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Are you so sure?
GW's inner workinbg are quite a technology feat that every single game dev company would love to see sources of.
Ncsoft would think twice before giving competition something like that, and i am positive that there is lots of legalese around what anet can and cant publish from games inner workings that would make it quite a suicide for anyone to leak such thing.
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not that i would mind OSS GW server and client ;p
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Mar 05, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56
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#247
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: A/N
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Few things
1)- 100 skills for PvP in new Gw Addon is a joke, really
2)- if Gw 2 will have a month fee- I'm out
3)- races? what for? This isn't wow, this is GW...
4) I dont like the direction in which Gw is going... seems more like farm wars, than Guild Wars
5) I really hope that players with Gw 1 will have some benefit in the beginning of Gw 2... I have all campaigns and when Gw 2 is out, AN will probably stop to work on Gw 1...
Anyway- this isn't good news for me
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00
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#248
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Purdue University, West Lafayette IN
Guild: Seven Samurai [SvnS]
Profession: N/Me
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GW2 wont be a WoW clone from a sheer market standpoint. NCSoft already has its WoW competitor which is Lineage II, and the expected Lineage III.
I don't buy into hype, and I don't buy this early information on GW2.
And about the next chapter, it is kind of hard to see how they could stretch it out to 6 or 7 long the way they have been progressing.
Character transfer? What is the point? Guild Wars is little more then digital entertainment, if you want something that will be around for a long time invest in something real. A fresh start never killed anybody.
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05
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#249
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Florida, USA
Guild: Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]
Profession: R/
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The Inquirer is *NOT* the National Enquirer.
The National Enquirer is a supermarket tabloid, with stories about Alvis and aliens.
The Inquirer is an established technology news site, with a somewhat anti-Microsoft, anti-Dell viewpoint.
The article was published by the latter, which has *no* relation to the former.
That said, I can't vouch for whether or not the Inquirer is correct about what's going on with Guild Wars. Like any new site, it could well have been spoofed. Or maybe they found a drunk NCSoft employee in the bar; lots of leaks happen that way.
Last edited by ChaoticCoyote; Mar 05, 2007 at 06:07 PM // 18:07..
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05
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#250
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Reason for character transfer... we've been building these chars for a couple years now. A non-transferrable "GW2" would split and ruin the player base.
Well, this whole thing stinks to a degree not smelled in quite some time. It is so against the modus operandi of ANet that I really believe it's a fake. With the screwups contained... not a very well thought out fake either.
Multi-level dungeons my arse.
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:06 PM // 18:06
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#251
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Mafia of Annihilation [FeAr]
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marth Reynolds
And of course if it's true and you can't bring old chars to GW2, man gw2 is so gonne be doomed then....
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Yea.. I can't see too many scenarios where GW1 characters would be allowed into GW2. The main reason being that it would place some serious confines onto the development team...
1) GW2 would have to have all 10 classes that it currently has
2) GW2 would have to allow secondary professions same as it does now
3) GW2 would have to recreate ALL armour, weapons, faces and other graphical elements that are already contained in GW1
4) GW2 would have to allow the same basic combat system, skills, dmg, energy etc as GW1
If all of this was to happen, then why not just do a major graphical update to GW1, make an expansion, and call it a day? No way they are going to recreate everything from GW1 and also limit themselves to the confines of the current engine. Plus, the whole concept of allowing your character to come in at level 20 and then progress to level 40 is doubtful as well... It works well in games where you leave the old character behind, but what happens when your buddies want to do a FOW run in GW1 and you've moved your character to GW2? You can't go back? That would kill the old servers (no one would be on them) and plus everyone is going to want to occasionally revisit some GW1 content... No, I doubt they would let you bring a character forward with you. I would like it, but I doubt it.
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17
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#252
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: CA
Guild: [UC] Uber Crue
Profession: W/
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Were Is Gaile!!!!!!=(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( (((
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18
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#253
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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It is true that if characters can't be transferred that the player base will be split. I have seen the same thing happen in other multiplayer games (not MMOs) and that is just the way things worked out. Half of the people kept playing the original and half (or sometimes less than half) played the new version.
I don't understand why everyone is complaining about races though. I mean, knowing GW, they will likely only be for cosmetic appeal and one won't have an advantage over the other.
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19
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#254
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2006
Profession: Mo/
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I just hope that gaile doesn't say this is bs and in pcgamer say the same stuff
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20
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#255
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: W/R
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Seems to me from what i can read. That with the coming of GW2 it will make GW1 obsolete. No one we play it anymore because everyone has moved to GW2. ANd with it not going to be here for a coiple years everyone will move on to something else anyway.
With all the time spent build the char that you want and getting guilds, guild halls, armor, and weapons that you want. and then to have the plug yanked out of the wall. Why even carry on with GW1 if it will be no more?
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23
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#256
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2006
Profession: Mo/
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they dont actualy care that u continue to play the old... U already paid for it so u are just using band..
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23
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#257
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Banned
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Do you guys think that they will maintain their Guild Wars 1 servers, say you don't wanna buy Guild Wars 2 and just wanna PvP/PvE for almost forever with the remaining GW1 players?
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24
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#258
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lost in the sands of time...
Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO]
Profession: R/Rt
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I just can't believe this. It sounds waaay off. It seems so fishy that it is on the Inquirer, but not on The official website.
I also think that Anet realizes and would know that if they did something like this, and your GW1 characters were unable to travel to this GW2, and that you couldn't use your GW1 characters for anything, that they would loose a large amount of players. And the thoughts on the monthly fee that was said on here, My guess is that would also loose a huge amount of players.
I won't believe anything until i see a post from Gaile or until i see PC Gamer.
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25
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#259
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In a hot spot
Guild: United Vanguard [UV]
Profession: N/
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Okay..HOLD ON...RELAX...Let's Think about this...
The author...Theo Valich
He has been right once in all the posts I looked at...Google him...He got the Laptop battery recall correct. Everything else he has been wrong about. He has been charged with being a propaganda machine...his objectivity is suspect.
The source...unnamed from GDCON in San Fran...there is nothing on the website...no other agency has picked it up...its been 11 hours since his story broke...the conference starts March 5...which is tomorrow.
How did Theo get a screen shot of the new addon? Did some developer HAPPEN to be carrying around a thumb drive Screen shots saved to it? AND then we are to believe he would TRUST Theo with it?
I am sure that somone told Theo something...but what he heard could have been a dev messing with him...I mean come on, the guy was chased out of an interview cuz he is a jerk...
Relax,t he sky s not falling...continue on your title gathering and getting all your toons to the end.
Last edited by wynoski; Mar 05, 2007 at 06:32 PM // 18:32..
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Mar 05, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27
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#260
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: DVDF(Forums)
Profession: Me/N
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Anyone considered AN may have leaked this info themselves, to create loads of hype ready for the PC gamer reveal. Then when reveal day comes and most of this info is wrong, everyone will be at fever pitch about it and so the marketing campaign will be more visible than if they had just kept quiet.
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