Curse

Cruz Ctrl · Feb 27, 2007, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Well...anyway I started this thread because I see some skills that are just plain crap...

Example:
Suicide {Elite} (Warrior)
You Die.
Energy:25 CT: 10 Seconds Recharge: 60

I think this skill sux cuz it does...

Then People Will Just Keep Posting Skills They Think are Bad, we give them feedback and so on

Ill Start Off:

"The Power Is Yours!" {Elite} (Paragon)
All party members within earshot gain 1-7 energy. For 10 seconds you have -10 energy degeneration
Energy: 10 CT: 0 Recharge: 20

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/%22The_...Is_Yours%21%22

one of the worst elites i have seen...your party members within earshot get a weak 7 energy and u get -10 energy degen...for 10 seconds?! I really dont get the point of this skill, signets and adrenaline might help, but this skill just plain sucks...

Bring on the Posts!

Note: I know every skill in the game cant please everybody...this thread is just to get opinions and have fun...so dont get worked up if someone says a skill that they think is bad, but you have another opinion. K thnx in advance

Redfeather1975 · Feb 27, 2007, 03:00 AM // 03:00

The Power Is Yours is probably one of the many skills that look horrible on it's own, but are the way they are because they can be combined with other professions skills to perform some role.
Unfortunately many skills are balanced in a way so that they are not overpowered in a particular group setup, but at the same time for the average player who doesn't meticulously try to setup a group a certain way it's a worthless skill.

I don't know if there'll ever be a balance that makes everyone happy. I don't know if future skills will be developed to be both equally useful to GvG setups as well as average PVE play.

Skye Marin · Feb 27, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Let's fix the skill then:

"The Power is Yours!"
5 Energy / 5 Recharge
Elite Shout. For 10 seconds, target other ally gains +1..4 energy regeneration, and you suffer -2 energy degeneration. This skill has half the normal casting range.

This would be like a lower-powered BiP with less backlash. You could maintain it on two guys at once and even use skills like Enduring Harmony to boost the power of the skill.

Or:

"The Power is Yours!"
10 Energy / 20 Recharge
Elite Shout. For 10 seconds, all allies in earshot gain +1..3 energy regeneration. For each ally effected, you lose 5 energy.

Using this would essentially nuke your current energy pool, but it doesn't really matter because an adrenal shout would easily fill it back up. This shout would also affect yourself, which is pretty darn notable.

Cruz Ctrl · Feb 27, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Good suggestions, but I think that the 1st idea would be a bit too much because of the low recharge and energy cost, the -2 degen would be nothing compared to the 33% sacrifice of the BiP. The energy degen is easily countered because many of the paragon skills are based on adrenaline.It could easily replace BiP. Maybe toning down the power of that. But it would be a great upgrade for this skill.

You just got tomahawked · Feb 27, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

I have never heard of suicide...

BryanM · Feb 27, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Swirling Aura - vastly worse than Shields Up. At the very least it should provide 2/3-3/4 personal projectile protection.

noocoo · Feb 27, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Paragon's elite are just almost too plain to be compared with others.

IMO, the worst elite skill in GW is [skill]Word of Censure[/skill]

I still don't understand why Anet make such useless skill like this. I never saw that smiters use this spell, even is E/Mo.

Also, I don't get where the "censure" is. It should make some bonus while target foe is attacking or something.

Anyway, for me, this skill was made for holding a post without the necessary qualifications and just to make up the numbers.

Canadian Bacon · Feb 27, 2007, 04:53 AM // 04:53

I'm 99% sure that Suicide isn't a real skill...guilwiki hasn't heard of it either.

Chilly Ress · Feb 27, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Did you read the word "example" next to suicide?

Gustin · Feb 27, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08

I'd have to say Lightbringer's Signet, if that counts. Esspecially since it's an Elite. Has anyone ever even used this crap? There are regular elites that are 100 times better at adrenaline gain or energy gain. Grant it, none that are together so it kind of makes itself a warrior/paragon elite but either way, who would really use this in place of something far better?

BryanM · Feb 27, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

He was just trying to make something up as a sample guys.

More discussion on the awfulness of Swirling Aura!

When they create gimpy skills outside of the attribute they feel that function belongs in (Ride the Lightning, Swirly Aura)... it often just ends up as a non-skill overall.

Grasping Darkness · Feb 27, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Retreat

Frenzied Defense

Pounce

Glimmer of Light= orison + a puny 10 points and fancy ELITE name seems to be a filler skill created during a writers block I think.

Shield of Absorbtion-used to be good but now with cast time being a large portion of its duration I absolutely hate it. It was nerfed to thwart farmers forcing more people to buy gold online.

Withdraw Hexes

Deny Hexes

Some Guru Named Kai · Feb 27, 2007, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Vengeance is pretty bad.

Zorglubb · Feb 27, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37

About half of the skills in GuildWars are useless, and of all skills probably less than 10% should really be used, the rest being weaker or less practical variants of those 10%.

divinechancellor · Feb 27, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Ontagh's Cry

Not sure how to spell it: useless!

keli · Feb 27, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness

Retreat

Frenzied Defense

Pounce

Glimmer of Light= orison + a puny 10 points and fancy ELITE name seems to be a filler skill created during a writers block I think.

Shield of Absorbtion-used to be good but now with cast time being a large portion of its duration I absolutely hate it. It was nerfed to thwart farmers forcing more people to buy gold online.

Withdraw Hexes

Deny Hexes

Glimmer of Light? No you are wrong, its pretty good in team arenas example.(1/4casting time and +10healing is awesome).
Shield of Absorbtion? Well, i still use this skill with my henchies and for farm too and i have to say its pretty good. And btw i can still farm with it.

The worst elite in the game is oughty cry :S:S

Winterclaw · Feb 27, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03

I've used WoC on my monk one or twice.

100 Blades is probably one of the worst skills in the game.

EDIT: I use it for certain builds, but I still don't think it's that great being the sword core elite.

remmeh · Feb 27, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

Frenzied Defense is actually pretty decent for Arenas on a Mo/W with Protective Spirit.

Shield of Absorption used to be excellent preprot and is now still very useful for mitigating damage on a trained target even with the 1s cast.

letsee... Otyugh's Cry, Revive Animal... hell, half the Beast Mastery skills are pretty useless... Strike As One, Scavenger's Focus, Archer's Signet, Marksman's Wager, Expert's Dexterity, Power Shot!...

Enchanter's Conundrum, Simple Thievery, Visions of Regret, Tease, Air of Disenchantment, Extend Conditions, Power Leech, Power Flux, Persistence of Memory... i'm gonna go ahead and say that pretty much all of the Mesmer nightfall elite skills are completely and utterly useless.

garethporlest18 · Feb 27, 2007, 08:19 AM // 08:19

Frenzied Defense- LOL. Frenzy, but doing no damage, 75% chance to block! What happens when you get hit with ele damage? Yeah.

Lightbringers Signet- Honestly who'd waste an elite slot for this skill?

Remmeh, Visions of Regret rapes me countlessly since I use an adrenal warrior. But I agree with Tease, what an utterly useless skill.

dgb · Feb 27, 2007, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Retreat can see play under very certain circumstances (namely that you're carrying around a level 2 pet that exists to die to power retreat).

[skill]Deflect Arrows[/skill] has to be pretty close to the top. Seriously, if you want defence just use a decent stance not this pile of shit.
[skill]Supportive Spirit[/skill] - if I know someone is going to be knocked down they're going to get GOOD protection on them, not this junk
[skill]Poisoned Heart[/skill]
[skill]Extend Conditions[/skill]

All of the above fail at being useful.