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sakura75 · Mar 23, 2007, 10:09 AM // 10:09

A solution: upgrading accounts.

With the upcoming GW:EN and GW2 several things might not please many players. I don’t want to discuss all these points but only one issue. One of these things is the fact that existing characters will not be able to transfer from GW1 to GW2 and therefore pass into oblivion.
Many players reacted disappointed and felt lost and betrayed; any further playing with GW is pointless, since anything that will be achieved in GW1 will be in vain in GW2, since the option to transfer the character will not be available. They opt to change to another game, understandable.
Anet/Gaile gave some explanations why this feature will not be available in GW2, like:
- different game engine
- different game codes
- different graphic rendering
- totally different game
- different time setting (100 years after GW1)
- incompatibility
- etc.

Let’s say you start playing GW1 loyally and decide to buy and play GW2. The storyline is set 100 years after GW1. Gwen, Mhenlo, Devona and others will all be gone to the afterlife and you started wondering what happened to other heroes who played a role in the storyline (i.e. the characters you have created). Your search will be in vain since there is no single trace of these characters. Isn’t that illogic? People to did some research in their ancestors (in real life), they will always find some trace of their ancestors, how hard it sometimes may seem. In GW2, history is wiped out completely. Why would Anet deny us our history? The history of our ancestors! Noble families have a family tree and they are proud of their ancestors. A family without a history has no future. So again, why deny us our history? Only a fool denies his own ancestors (saying in the Far East).

With this thread I want to start a petition to give us loyal players the option to transfer our beloved characters to which we are attached to GW2.
I understand that GW2 will be a totally different game set a hundred years after GW1. Technically it will probably use a different game engine with different codes.
The good thing about GW2 without the option to transfer characters is that everyone will start equally. Therefore, I suggest the option of transferring characters from GW1 to GW2 without giving any advantages of coming from GW1. It is only a legacy (please read further about legacy).
To achieve this equality of characters: money, items, XP or even armor will not be transferred from GW1 to GW2, therefore not facing any game codes or game engine incompatibility. All transferred characters will start at level 1 without any XP, money, items or armor. Or these features are set to equal to characters that are created in GW2.
The look of the transferred characters will also be lost, i.e. players are allowed to create a new look for the transferred characters only once (this will please several players who wish the option to change character look by adding a hairdresser and such for a long time).
All characters that were transferred to GW2 will not be able to return to GW1 ever again. These characters have stepped into a new era (100 years after GW1). Remember that these characters are not the same characters, they only bear the same name, i.e. they bear the same name of one of their ancestors (like G. Bush and G Bush jr). All features (e.g. titles) that were achieved by his/her ancestors will be archived in a family book. This family book is only viewable by him (the owner of the account). So in future updates like GW6 characters may have a long family book forming a family tree and can become like a Family Legacy.

Furthermore, I suggest a more radical thing: account upgrading. Players have the option on buying GW2 to play GW2 as a separate game or to upgrade his GW1 to a GW2 account by adding GW2 to his GW1 account. Account owners can upgrade only once and you cannot add GW1 to your existing GW2 account! This means he can update his whole GW1 to GW2 account and not each single character separately. This is to solve transferring account based titles and preventing hacking. Furthermore, this will unburden the load of servers supporting GW1 since more and more account will be transferred to GW2 servers, so that in the future all GW1 accounts may be transferred to GW2 and more servers becoming available. Imagine that in the future when GW5 exists, Anet needs to support GW1, GW2, GW3, GW4 and GW5. This is a good solution for not supporting older GW versions by continuously upgrading accounts.
A good thing is that players who have bought extra character slots might bring these slots over to GW2 (I presume that the option to buy extra character slots will exit in GW2 as well).

What character/account features should be transferred?
- Name. Many players have given their characters very original names and don’t want these names to be taken by other players. Moreover, names are not hard to transfer and will not face any game engine incompatibility. Or at least give us the option to reserve names from our GW1 account.
- Character based titles. Allow us to transfer this option, but they are fixed and not to be changed in the future by any means. It means that if you only have the Drunkard Title you will never be able to change this into the second stage again. The Drunkard Title does not belong to you, but to your ancestors and be written in the Family Book. You can try to get this title again, but starting from 0 minutes.
- Account based titles. Allow us to bring these titles to GW2, but allow us to change it by winning RA/TA/HoH or GvG.
- Collector Edition extra: Loyal players who have invested some extra money should be awarded with something extra. This extra is unique and account based. I suggest something special as a remembrance like a medal that can be worn on armor (with the option to show or not to show) or cape.

What character/account features should be transferred?
Any that is not on the list above should not be transferred.
Gold: reset to equal with starting GW2 characters. This is also a solution to Ebay gold sellers.
XP: XP and levels are reset to 0 and 1 respectively.
Look: Look will be due to new game engine impossible to transfer. But allow us to create a new look as if starting a new GW2 character.
Armor: Same with look; new game engine will cause incompatibility. Please, note that many players have invested a lot of time in gaining FoW armor, so may be give the characters how has FoW armor something to remember, like a medal? But this is up to Anet to decide.

SUMMARY:
Allow loyal players to transfer characters from GW1 to GW2. Characters transferred to GW2 may never return to GW1 ever again! I suggest not transferring characters separately but a whole account upgrade.
Features that will be transferred:
- Name, who wants their character name to be stolen?
- Character based titles, but these titles will be fixed for ever.
- Account based titles, but these titles will be change with further play.
- Collector Editions extras: Divine Aura in GW:P/Holographic Dance in GW:F/Globe Dance in GW:NF. Allow loyal players to get something extra.
Features that will be lost or reset: anything that is not on the list of items to be transferred will be lost.
- Gold: reset to equal to any other starting GW2 character
- XP: reset to 0
- Armor: All is lost for ever! FoW are lost, too, but a medal reward on armor.
- Look: allow making/creating a new look only once based on new game engine/features available in GW2.

I hope that anyone who agrees with these suggestions sign this petition or may be give other suggestions to improve a future game we (will) love.
Moreover, I hope Anet read this and may take these suggestions into serious consideration; therefore I will thank Anet for a listening ear.

Razorwood · Mar 23, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10

First before locked

In all seriousness they won't transfer charcters over, it sounds like all you want is your name and titles which they are doing anyway.

Undressed · Mar 23, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by Razorwood

First before locked

Dang it!

Names will be reserved, Mrs.Gray already confirmed that and no, no character transfer ever. Everything ultimately finds its end. Roll with it.

VorBiz · Mar 23, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

I dont want to play my GW1 chars in GW2 because I sarted a years after it came out. Now I can be level with everyone else.

Just because GW2 is coming out you DONT have to play it. Most people will probs play GW2, then go back to GW1 and play both. I know I will.

People are saying no one will play GW2, I think at the start, no one will be on them aswell, but after a month or two people will start going back on.

I will want my names tho.

Kisuro · Mar 23, 2007, 10:32 AM // 10:32

In before the lock!
There is already a bazillion threads about this. Also all that you took pains to write and describe in great detail has already been promised. Names will be reserved and your achievements (titles etc) will be forever immortalized in the hall of monuments.

sakura75 · Mar 23, 2007, 10:35 AM // 10:35

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Originally Posted by Razorwood

First before locked

In all seriousness they won't transfer charcters over, it sounds like all you want is your name and titles which they are doing anyway.

Most important for me is the name. Titles are not so important for me personally, but may be for other players.

Avarre · Mar 23, 2007, 10:36 AM // 10:36

We are not doing petitions or polls for a game that will not be released for approximately two years.