Curse

mafia cyborg · Mar 26, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

still nothing to solve trade spam in local chat!
do u realize how many ppl bought Nightfall and then quit on reaching kamadan? (where most nubie quests are!). Lookin at guild statistics 9 out of 10 new players who bought nightfall quit within a week!
i was one of those players who started with Nightfall....on starting the game i quickly find myself in kamadan not able to communicate with anyone or ask a question as i was shutdown by the most unreal amount of trade spam.
it felt like being in a single player game....with no interaction with other players.
luckily someone noticed my question and invited me to join a guild....still to date im not able to meet new ppl or interact with anyone. I'm 100% reliant on guildies.....10 ppl......thats the amount of players i can intercat out of the 1 million gw subscribers. that makes no sense.
some rare times in cities a discussion starts off out of nowhere.....u find ppl discussin a topic of interest they share......but as always one trade spammer arrives and kills it off.
i dont need to spell out how important the social aspect of mmorpgs are in their success.
are the programmers so lazy they cant implement an ingame trade house? is it so difficult to disable cut and paste in local chat?

Thermoblaze · Mar 26, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06

They tryed to solve this problem with ''Search'' option but ther are still ppl that don t use them

Kos Luftar · Mar 26, 2007, 04:11 PM // 16:11

They already said there are many things that they believe have gone wrong with the game, and I believe one of these things is no Auction house or other trading venue, therefore they rather start new game (GW2) where they implement these things are the main features from the beginning. GW1 will never get Auction house I do not think so, unless after GW2 they are able to find a easy cheap way to add it in, since they say they will be keeping up GW1 servers even when GW2 comes out.

makosi · Mar 26, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Firstly I think that the "9 out of 10 new players who bought nightfall quit within a week" statistic is not representative of the bigger picture. I suppose your guild statistics were just unfortunate.

Secondly, spamming in big cities is normal and expected in the same way that you see big Coca-Cola ads in Times Square and the centre of Tokyo. It might be hard to communicate normally in Kamadan (and Kaineng, Lion's Arch, and Droks) but if I were you, I'd select the last district, which is always emptiest.

A lot of things about Guild Wars, and the people therein, irritate me but spamming and improper use of Local chat has never bothered me because I can simply avoid it.

makosi · Mar 26, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

I have common sense. I've just encountered worse things in life to moan about.

And the Coca-Cola argument means, in simple terms, its normal for people to advertise goods in a place with a large audience.

savage vapor 33 · Mar 26, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Yeah it bothers people but like Makosi said, its just going to happen. Get used to it. If you need help, find a good friend who you can keep on your friends list and ask questions every once in a while. Also....guildwiki.org??

/flame bait?

Domino · Mar 26, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Wait for Guild Wars 2?

dunno what to tell you bro.

lyra_song · Mar 26, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafia cyborg

trade spam in LOCAL CHAT is an abvious problem .....it may not bother u.....but it obviously bothers an awful lot of ppl. if u fail to see this u have no common sense.

nothing is obvious. common sense is a myth. Stop with the ad hominem.

Trading spam is a problem. Yes.
Your guild statistics mean nothing.
Kamadan is a HUB CITY. It will be filled with spam just like LA, KC, Droks. These cities are where sellers congregate. Theres places where people can meet, those places are not it.
Finding and meeting people in this game is difficult. Yes.
Social aspect of Guild Wars is lacking. Yes.
Guild Wars will never get an auction house. Ever.

thundercleese_06 · Mar 26, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Well, GW:EN still hasn't come out yet so they might experiment with the trade house AND everyone has also claimed that GW2 will get a TOTAL overhaul which could mean that one of the things they could introduce could be the trade house(trust me, they know about the trade channel spam bc it has been a problem since prophecies).

Redfeather1975 · Mar 26, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

It's better to go to the higher number districts to meet people.
In LA, Kamadan, KC I usually choose to go to dis 3-5 to chat with people.
I've had lots of fun moments chatting with people and I've learned that dis 1-3, depending on the outposts, are where you'd go to buy/sell.

daraaksii · Mar 26, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

'Search' function is Bullshieet. They can't do anything against spammers. Flood? Nah.. You can send a message 3 times repeatedly, but once it's disappear, you can flood again. A-net fail against spammers. I just turn off my local/trade chat. That's the best in Kamadan, Lion's Arch, Temple of the Ages and Kaineng.

Symeon · Mar 26, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13

How do you know there won't be an auction house/other trade improvement in Eye of the North, that the developers refused to release information about?

You know those Asuras? Well, they're very clever little bunnies. Perhaps they'll have something for us. They sort of remind me of goblins, and goblins remind me of that bank in Harry Potter... yeah. Clever bunnies will run an auction house for us. Mkay?

Seriously, I know this is a big problem for some people, but it's something that ANet have clearly been having difficult in thinking of how to deal with. If they won't do anything until GW2, that's fine by me. In the meantime: if you don't know something/want to ask a question, have a guild and some good friends that you can ask, or just check on the internet. Using All chat in overloaded city districts to ask questions or to start a sensible conversation is a really, really bad idea. There are plenty of other methods you can use to get through the game or find out whatever it is you need to know; use them.

Mordakai · Mar 26, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Symeon

There are plenty of other methods you can use to get through the game or find out whatever it is you need to know; use them.

Like this site, for instance!

mqstout · Mar 26, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Well selling GW2 on the merit "will include the trade improvements that were promised for GW since it first came out and the problem was realized" is extremely shady in my book.

No, they never said we'd get an auction house. But it was said time and time again that there would be "trade improvements". And they also said with the release of party search that the trade in there was NOT the promised "trade improvements".

Quote:

Originally Posted by king symeon

How do you know there won't be an auction house/other trade improvement in Eye of the North

Yep, fix a major core problem of the game when it's put on its death bed.

Bryant Again · Mar 26, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Quote:

Yep, fix a major core problem of the game when it's put on its death bed.

You still got two years, dude, and that'll be two years of awesome.

As to the OP's statement: The spam definantly sucks. There's not a whole lot that can be done at this point besides an Auction House, but that is a lot of work that has to go into that, so I don't expect to see anything like that soon.

Redfeather already pointed out that the largest majority of the players go to the first district of any city to trade. You'll see those a lot less in the higher districts.

Onarik Amrak · Mar 26, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

It's a habit thing. It's a feature they should have thought of from the very start to mitigate spam. However, because of all this time with people just spamming the channels, it's become ingrained as normal practice. Old habits die hard. My hope is that ANet have learned from this mistake and will have a beter solution in future games to prevent the same thing from happening.

No one likes spam.

thig · Mar 26, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Theres a simpel fix for it. Close down the local chat and ask your question in the trade chat instead. Since it's not being used for trades, then it might as well be used for chat

Zorglubb · Mar 26, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

The Auction House is one of the things that was ased long ago, and whose absence was felt sorely for all the (short) life of GW.

XvArchonvX · Mar 26, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Meh...

Seriously, why do some people think that people trading in local chat is some horrible thing that is ruining the game? It's annoying, yes, but beyond that I think there are better things the devs could be working on.

gene terrodon · Mar 26, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

How about Anet implements a filter that includes the names, abbreviations and any other variant of each and every item in the game - from weapons to materials to quest items.
Any mention of numbers or gold is filtered, as well as any phrase containing w,s,b,t.
I bet that will make you happy , eh