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NeHoMaR · Mar 29, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by Wildi

they do NOT decrease difficulty in normal mode

EXACTLY! what the hell are you complaining? ALL will be the SAME! Protector and Cartographer will be exactly the same difficulty.

Rhedd · Mar 29, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

As someone who just finished my Canthan GMC title, I'm not worried at all.

From what Gaile said, it sounds like the changes they're making to "normal" mode will simply undo some of the rather unpopular recent updates, which I'd welcome.

Well, that and the Afflicted explosion thing, which always was a horrible idea. I always felt sorry for the brand-new Assassin class, in particular.

"Welcome, Assassin! You're a melee glass cannon. Oh, did we mention the world is entirely populated by things that explode when you kill them? Have fun!" ^_^

Shanaeri Rynale · Mar 29, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50

Of more interest are how the 'no one will lose titles' quote from Gaile will balance with the supposed maxing of lightbringer that Hard mode will bring.

Now, AN may make it easier(e.g 3 points per kill) to get LB 8 in hardmode, or they will create a super leet LB rank of 9. which may cause people who have max LB title now to lose KoBD/PKM etc and I guess the final option is it was a title mix up and it was only Sunspear that has another level to it.

If LB rank is set to 9, there's going to be some cheesed off people who are going to have to kill a load more stuff to get their PKM back.

Death Dafire · Mar 29, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Of more interest are how the 'no one will lose titles' quote from Gaile will balance with the supposed maxing of lightbringer that Hard mode will bring.

What do you mean by this? Lightbringer is already able to be maxed..

EternalTempest · Mar 29, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Waiting for the farmers to complain about the better drop rate with hard mode and not being able to solo it as well as normal mode... that being said

Normal = Same with some tweaks of the annoying stuff
Hard = Challenging area with more rewards

You still keep your "Protector" titles, just can go after the "Guardian" titles as a Lvl 2.

I'm looking forward to this change, especially being a fire ele that doesn't use echo/arcane echo.

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Originally Posted by Death Dafire

What do you mean by this? Lightbringer is already able to be maxed..

There was a method where you can go afk, and let your hero/hench kill things endlessly that gave LB points. They closed the loop hole but some people did reach max rank.

Some people got lucky, others are calling for removing there higher ranks.

unienaule · Mar 29, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Here's a key fact: None of the PvE titles mean anything, not even survivor. Yay, you managed to not die against enemies that always use the same set of skills EVERY SINGLE TIME. Or worse, you farmed stupid mobs/leeched off of people/paid to get xp. That sure is impressive. Cartographer, woo, you can run around the map. Mission completion? I got 14 masters in Elona the weekend it came out, and I wasn't going for any of them on purpose. Skill Hunter? That just means you spent a crapload of time capping elites you're never going to use. So, cheapening the titles? Give me a break. Fixing monster AI, and the only thing you can say is that the titles get cheaper? Amazing. I won't even mention Lightbringer and Sunspear because those don't mean anything either since they're both grindfests. The only people who would think that these titles mean something are those who think doing the same thing repeatedly over and over again shows skill. It doesn't.

I can't believe I almost forgot the one use these titles do have, e-peen. That's it.

Mavrik · Mar 29, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

so when do we get the two modes? I'll welcome them because I'm tired of all these "just to piss you off" things that happen all the time.

Skyy High · Mar 30, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by unienaule

Here's a key fact: None of the PvE titles mean anything, not even survivor. Yay, you managed to not die against enemies that always use the same set of skills EVERY SINGLE TIME. Or worse, you farmed stupid mobs/leeched off of people/paid to get xp. That sure is impressive. Cartographer, woo, you can run around the map. Mission completion? I got 14 masters in Elona the weekend it came out, and I wasn't going for any of them on purpose. Skill Hunter? That just means you spent a crapload of time capping elites you're never going to use. So, cheapening the titles? Give me a break. Fixing monster AI, and the only thing you can say is that the titles get cheaper? Amazing. I won't even mention Lightbringer and Sunspear because those don't mean anything either since they're both grindfests. The only people who would think that these titles mean something are those who think doing the same thing repeatedly over and over again shows skill. It doesn't.

I can't believe I almost forgot the one use these titles do have, e-peen. That's it.

1. Cartographer is not just "you can run around the map." It's rather more frustrating, especially maxing Tyrian cartographer. Do try it and see what I mean.
2. There is really nothing better to distinguish PvE skill in this game than some of the titles. If someone has Grandmaster Cartographer or Protector or Skill Hunter, you know at the very least they've been there, done that. You can trust their skills to an extent, moreso than the guy displaying 60% Cartographer or some low title like that.

They're not definite showcases of skill, but they're the best we have, same as rank in HA.

Griff Mon · Mar 30, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

They're not definite showcases of skill, but they're the best we have, same as rank in HA.

Oohh.... that will start something...

Reminds of the first big nerf when all the Fire Ele's couldn't solo farm anymore, rage and rage and rage on.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 30, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

agrhghhh.....just wait for it to come out and all your questions will be answered!! well most of them probably.....

SalazarTheGreat · Mar 30, 2007, 12:58 AM // 00:58

I do agree with unienaule- the titles are meaningless. They Don't Really show much skill, except for the protecter titles, and having survivor or GMC doesn't show ur a good PvE'er. 've only played for 6 months, have very few titles, but i still get complements on my PvE ele work, regardless of my titles. BUT what they do show is that you put the time in too do something, like stay alive forever or explore everyplace, and that is why the titles are actually in the game. (see drunkard and sweet tooth- those have no point other then what is stated above.)

Rakeman · Mar 30, 2007, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by SalazarTheGreat

I do agree with unienaule- the titles are meaningless. They Don't Really show much skill, except for the protecter titles, and having survivor or GMC doesn't show ur a good PvE'er. 've only played for 6 months, have very few titles, but i still get complements on my PvE ele work, regardless of my titles. BUT what they do show is that you put the time in too do something, like stay alive forever or explore everyplace, and that is why the titles are actually in the game. (see drunkard and sweet tooth- those have no point other then what is stated above.)

Yes, I consider the protector titles one of the more "serious" titles, as you get it by playing the game well, not clicking on alcohol for 1000 minutes. It is definitely the title I respect the most (Not including Gladiator and Champion)

Lord-UWR · Mar 30, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

The OP should REALLY pay more attention to details...

Gaile, as well as the GW official wiki states that Hard Mode will decrease the difficulty of SOME AREAS ONLY. The example given was the explosion of The afflicted in Cantha, and also the Vizunah Square + Unwalking Waters missions. There was no mention of Area Nerfs (wow, I never thought I'd say that ^.^) in Tyria. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY FOR ONCE, and keep opinions such as this to yourselfs until it is released.

wetsparks · Mar 30, 2007, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by unienaule

Here's a key fact: None of the PvE titles mean anything, not even survivor. Yay, you managed to not die against enemies that always use the same set of skills EVERY SINGLE TIME. Or worse, you farmed stupid mobs/leeched off of people/paid to get xp. That sure is impressive. Cartographer, woo, you can run around the map. Mission completion? I got 14 masters in Elona the weekend it came out, and I wasn't going for any of them on purpose. Skill Hunter? That just means you spent a crapload of time capping elites you're never going to use. So, cheapening the titles? Give me a break. Fixing monster AI, and the only thing you can say is that the titles get cheaper? Amazing. I won't even mention Lightbringer and Sunspear because those don't mean anything either since they're both grindfests. The only people who would think that these titles mean something are those who think doing the same thing repeatedly over and over again shows skill. It doesn't.

I can't believe I almost forgot the one use these titles do have, e-peen. That's it.

I realize I'm probably saying this in the wrong place, but by that logic, even PVP titles are worthless. Gladiator doesnt mean much because you can get lucky with 3 other good players and have them carry you to 10 wins. Commander title people do the /roll thing. And hero title you can go in and win one battle and loose, then repeat 100s of times and get a decent rank and people will think your good. Or since they are going back to 8v8 get with 7 other people who will carry you like gladiator.

Knightsaber Sith · Mar 30, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47

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Originally Posted by unienaule

The only people who would think that these titles mean something are those who think doing the same thing repeatedly over and over again shows skill. It doesn't.

I can't believe I almost forgot the one use these titles do have, e-peen. That's it.

Just like doing PvP battles over and over? It's so annoying when people can't just enjoy aspects of the game without being accused with one of these retarded e-peen comments. Every thing you just said about PvE titles applies to all titles even the PvP ones.

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 30, 2007, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by unienaule

Here's a key fact: None of the PvE titles mean anything, not even survivor. Yay, you managed to not die against enemies that always use the same set of skills EVERY SINGLE TIME. Or worse, you farmed stupid mobs/leeched off of people/paid to get xp. That sure is impressive. Cartographer, woo, you can run around the map. Mission completion? I got 14 masters in Elona the weekend it came out, and I wasn't going for any of them on purpose. Skill Hunter? That just means you spent a crapload of time capping elites you're never going to use. So, cheapening the titles? Give me a break. Fixing monster AI, and the only thing you can say is that the titles get cheaper? Amazing. I won't even mention Lightbringer and Sunspear because those don't mean anything either since they're both grindfests. The only people who would think that these titles mean something are those who think doing the same thing repeatedly over and over again shows skill. It doesn't.

I can't believe I almost forgot the one use these titles do have, e-peen. That's it.

Can you say "Flame bait?" (and from a moderator, too.)

Any title a person goes for is going to have meaning to that person. Most people could care less about what other people think about the titles they're working for. And what holds value for 1 person may not hold that same value for someone else. And as for how easy titles are to get, yeah, most, both PvE and PvP, have easy ways to get them (IWAY, anyone?). But what you CAN'T know is how someone came about getting their title, so don't be too quick to judge. You could make the case that ANY title in the game (PvE or PvP) are meaningless, because they will be to someone.

Rhedd · Mar 30, 2007, 06:43 AM // 06:43

Actually, since I've completed my Canthan GMC title, I've noticed a slight increase in the size of my REAL LIFE penis!

I can only imagine what would happen if I got Kind of a Big Deal!

Go ahead. Try to prove I'm lying. ^_^

undeadgun · Mar 30, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

FFS, no more PvP vs PvE, gezzzzzz
and LoLz@ Rhedd, i feel the same after i got my tyrian GM cantha GM and elona GM on 3 of my diff chars

arcanemacabre · Mar 30, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00

I agree with unienaule for the most part, except that yeah, PvP titles are on the same level as the PvE ones. The only real things they require is time and dedication. You have a maxxed title? That means you applied time and dedication to that aspect of the game, nothing more.

However, there are a few reasons to go for a title. One, is of course the classic e-peen BS. Another reason is a personal goal. The titles add another in-game goal to keep people who like goals from getting bored. Titles are also a unique way to RP, too. I am currently trying to get Sweet Tooth on my female warrior because it fits her personality. My Ranger has Survivor because it fits his personality/backstory. Personally, I only go for titles as an RP thing, which kinda in turn is a personal goal.

Metalmaster · Mar 30, 2007, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

Can you say "Flame bait?" (and from a moderator, too.)

Definitely u can. Seeing post like this from mod makes me sad.
2 unienaule and others who think that any titles mean anything - check Services section here, on guru.