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Corpselooter · Mar 30, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Yay, now i can get Razah.

Now to get Factions.

jammerpa · Mar 30, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

I have Razah on my SS.. taking Olias as MM, Razah as offensive spirit spammer and Zhed as Sandstorm ele, I'm a very proficient pve killing machine.

matt_heys · Mar 30, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41

I think there are two camps here.

1) People who are upset that to get the only Rt hero in all three games requires either 80k in cash or between 8 and 20 hours farming/questing DoA (depending on luck, skill and drops). You certainly aren't wrong there.

2) People who liked to parade around with a less comon hero (me), or really really needed a Rt hero, who are now upset that the prestige of getting Razah will be deminished.

Many people say that getting Razah isn't hard just time consuming or expensive, but then buying a Ferrari isn't hard, it's just expensive. So I like to think of Razah as the Ferrari of my hero set, at least for another week and a half anyway when the rest of my charictars will get him.

To those that say he isn't hard to get, have you tried to do The Foundry of Failed Creations to get your Titan Gem? I can't really think of anything much harder PvE in the game! Especially with a PUG.

I'm not so bothered by this update now anyway, since I've read up a bit on Hard Mode and will be looking forward to getting Gaurdian of Tyria/Cantha/Elona on my monk which will then get me KoaBD :-) that last 2% of map has been killing me.

Kali Magdalene · Mar 31, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

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Originally Posted by matt_heys

I think there are two camps here.

1) People who are upset that to get the only Rt hero in all three games requires either 80k in cash or between 8 and 20 hours farming/questing DoA (depending on luck, skill and drops). You certainly aren't wrong there.

2) People who liked to parade around with a less comon hero (me), or really really needed a Rt hero, who are now upset that the prestige of getting Razah will be deminished.

Many people say that getting Razah isn't hard just time consuming or expensive, but then buying a Ferrari isn't hard, it's just expensive. So I like to think of Razah as the Ferrari of my hero set, at least for another week and a half anyway when the rest of my charictars will get him.

To those that say he isn't hard to get, have you tried to do The Foundry of Failed Creations to get your Titan Gem? I can't really think of anything much harder PvE in the game! Especially with a PUG.

I'm not so bothered by this update now anyway, since I've read up a bit on Hard Mode and will be looking forward to getting Gaurdian of Tyria/Cantha/Elona on my monk which will then get me KoaBD :-) that last 2% of map has been killing me.

I say it's not hard because I farmed up enough cash in the past couple weeks to buy Razah twice over, and I'm not a heavy farmer.

Of course, I spent that money on armor and skills, but still.

Solar Light · Mar 31, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Post the build please because I'd love to see this. I've tried several variations of a restoration rit, but none are as good as a pure healing monk.

Mend Body and Soul
Spirit Light
Soothing Memorys/Ghostmirror light/Wielders Boon
Attuned Was Songkai/Mighty Was Vorizun
Vengeful Weapon/Weapon of Warding/Vital Weapon
Life/Preservation
Recuperation/Recovery
Desired Rez skill

pure heal monks might have a edge with Divine Favor, but, rits can do things they cant, like, recuperation, bit meh for cost and recharge, not mobile, but, its a AOE mending.

Recovery, at 12+ resto, it HALVES condition durations, AOE on party of course.

Sprit light is probably the best five energy heal thats not a elite skill
Songkai makes great emanagement, itreduces energy cost by nearly 30-40 # same with vorizun somewhat, but vorizun adds armor on top of energy poll boost. it adds armor

Life is your mobile spirit to fulfil conditional boosts for spells that require spirit, just keep in aggro bubble and your set, also typicly does a partywide heal party every 20 seconds.

with the spirit platforms, health sac from spirit light is gone, mend condition clears more condtions that recovery doesnt erase, with whatever ashpot ypu use soothing is more e-manage.

you can swap out one of the heal skills for wielders boon for heals on top of weapon spells, vital weapon has a good duration and its a spammable 130+ health cap to your party, and its not strippable.

its not just the pure healing, its the bonuses, kinda like protection monks.

the bonuses that rit healers give on top of the pure healing can EASLY be as good or better then the typical heal monk, but, you should think of things in terms of party synergy and area aswell.

rits can walk over any pve condtion heavy area and keep your alive party far better then a monk.

And, you, I, or someone else probably can find or make better variants with the skillpool.

And, Being a monk, im aquanited with the differences between the classes, and, every class has a edge in things that dont overlap with other classes, such as rits extra effects, or monks Divine Favor, and such.

davicams · Mar 31, 2007, 03:33 AM // 03:33

i really like being able to get him on my other chars

ohyo · Mar 31, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

getting Razah with the old quest wasn't that hard; I like having this hero for a nice mantle piece. Hope i get an Armbrace for that coffer for the real mantle piece.

darted · Mar 31, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by Rockby Quickfoot

Thank you very much to Gaile and the rest of the development team for finally solving this dilemma. As a Mesmer, I didn't think I 'd ever get the chance to get Razah.

And I said this before, but I'll say it again anyway, thanks for the Hard Mode that is coming too! All sounds very fun.

And this is why I am glad to see this update.

I don't want to buy everything. I have collector (Prophecies) armor on my ELE because I worked for it and like the way it looks. And it has the base stats that all inscribable ele armor does.

However, I am not a grinder and am a bit more than casual player but not much. I like playing all of the classes and I would not have much chance of getting Razah with a group thanks to the narrow minded and uninventive people that will not take anything but cookie cutter builds.

In fact, when I have a build they want I usually won't join their groups because they just really tick me off and are wanting to follow a pattern to 'win' - boring.

tru explorer · Mar 31, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

This is good.

The previous set up was problematic:

- It required many live players (can take a lot of time to find a group even with an active guild)

- Was long to accomplish

- The only way (other than buying gems from others who have done the above) to get the Hero. Other items like Ugoz bow - have many of the same characteristics but are in many ways not as "unique" and character specific as a "hero".

Hard quests and missions are fine - to a point.
Long quests and missions are fine to a point.
Quests and missions that require live players are fine too - to a point.
Rare rewards for completion are fine as well.

However the fundemental flexibilty of a hero is different than a wepon reward and should not be the combination of all of the above. After all I can have a great weapon - maybe just not that "skin" from elsewhere - even assembling one from collectors and other pieces. Not quite the same for the hero.

I did the Factions Elite Missions a few times but they are inconvenient usually to my time..... I usually play in short bursts and I don't usually have a lot of patience to build a large goup of "real players", hate it when one or more real players leave (or get disconnected) especially in a long quest/mission. Fissure and Underworld as "elite - must be ascended areas" have many of the same issues.....

So this is good. Have quests like this sure - but separate them from getting "heros" - make the rewards for completion things like weapons or elite armor (no better functionally please)........

Somewhat in that regard it would be great if a character can reasonably/fairly close to be expected to achieve a goal within the quests and rewards. Vabbian armor seems a bit out of whack.... How many trade contracts can one character earn? How many are required to be exchanged for enough sapphires and rubies? Not sure about the math - but can a set of 4 characters (four being what one GW chapter comes with) earn enough trade contracts to buy one set of armor? - This isn't so bad though - there is other max armor of different style.

A really "cool" piece of armor elite armor could be a reward for completion of a really tough quest. Armor being customized for a player.......

cyberjanet · Apr 01, 2007, 11:22 AM // 11:22

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Originally Posted by Whisper Evenstar

I personally think its a good thing to have to work for some things. Instant gratification (although expected by so many of the younger generation) should not become the norm for everything.

On the other hand, I realize that if my main char was not an ele (or one of the other "acceptable" classes), it would prob be impossible to get in a PUG in DOA and get all the gems.

Well I hardly count as the "younger generation" and personally I think it's only the younger generation who are prepared to put up with impossible odds and unfriendly PUGs. Plus the younger generation generally don't have jobs to do or households to run and can put in the impossible number of hours required.

So I welcome a Razah quest that's a reward for finishing Nightfall, and not a reward for putting up with DoA. There are plenty of other rewards for putting up with DoA including a number of unique weapons, I believe.

Finishing Nightfall in itself is hardly instant gratification...

VinnyRidira · Apr 01, 2007, 02:02 PM // 14:02

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