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Cebe · Apr 20, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by viper008

OMFG another WAH WAH GW is dead crapy thread

Credit where it's due...at least the guy went to the effort of finding a picture to illustrate his point. But really... last time Guild Wars was "dead" was when GW:2 was announced...now I'm not sure there are many people who are not looking forward to it... Overreactions ftl.

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Originally Posted by Dronte

Well, how will u get money? I farmed sometimes, a few ectos, to buy weapons for myself and for HEROES, because WE pay that too! Ok enjoy the game without money in it lol. Impossible, ask yourselves how many uber-l33t items do u get while doing missions? Not even a gold usually. Ok hard mode, but I dont think it'll balance it...

Collectors items drop readily whether you're solo farming or in a group of 8. Clearing out the Wajjun Bazaar probably gives you enough Plague Idols and Jade Bracelets to kit out 3 or 4 heroes alone. Heroes don't *need* you to spend vast quantities of money on them.

Patrick Smit · Apr 20, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by Utaku

Who cares?
GW is better than ever: now we have the entire game to replay in hard mode, and we have to play with good human players, no stupid tanking dunkoro.
If the only thing you like in Gw is farming, you better reconsider and play something else.
Today I did a mission in hard mode with friends, it was loads of fun, and I dropped a so called perfect sundering bow of fortitude.
Fun+good money.
Farming is dead? Good riddance!

Good human players, a contradictio interminus? Dunkoro is better then many a human monk, but also worse then quite some human monks. There will be cursing all over due ragequitters and the like, and gimmick/FOTM builds will rock the chat channels. Alternatives won't be accepted, and non-FOTM class combinations are out of the game, dont claim the victory mate, for the battle is not over yet.

Hockster · Apr 20, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

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Originally Posted by Sirus Dibley

Yes after many previous "gw is dead threads" I can safely say that today it dies for many farmers across the land. Anet you have gone too far this time and I think the following picture sums up your "update" rather nicely......

Cya. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Frankly, good riddance to all who claim they're quitting forever. Again. But this time it's for real, right? But these same clowns made the same whines at teh last farming change. And they're still here. And still whining.

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 20, 2007, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Maybe all the whiners will actually leave GW and we will have a btter community for it. If you want to farm go get a farming sim, John Deer is a good start.

Corpselooter · Apr 20, 2007, 01:07 PM // 13:07

Did the game box ever say: "Have tons of fun getting to elona reach and repeating the mission over and over for a small amount of cash!"

No.
STFU.

RTSFirebat · Apr 20, 2007, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Most pointless thread ever.

How is Guild Wars did?

Hard mode is a good thing!

Sooty · Apr 20, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

lol @ all the people who still sing anet's praises whatever they do whilst dismissing everyone else's concerns as though they are just whinging for the sake of it. I bet you are all pure pvpers or else don't farm in which case why even comment since it has nothing to do with you.

Perhaps they should reduce the max number of skills down to 4 or 5 instead of 8 for pvpers. You wouldn't whinge if they did that would u? Sure you wouldn't.

Cacheelma · Apr 20, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

Who'd be leaving over this?

Solo-farmers? Well, I don't want to be harsh, but really, what do they contribute to the whole gaming community?

-They solo mostly (farming). So, their leaving won't affect PuG quality (or better, it might be improved).
-They don't PvP (because they're farming).
-They whine whenever any farming exploits & AI adjustments fix/take place.
-Some of them sell gold for real money, inflating the economy.

Can you spell it? GOOD RIDDANCE.

Nekretaal · Apr 20, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24

First they came for the Mesmers, but I was not a mesmer so I didnt care that they were nerfed out of PvE...

Then they came for the Paragons, but I was not a Paragon so I didnt care that they were nerfed out of PvE...

Then they came for the Necromancers, but i was not a necromancer so i didnt care that they were nerfed out of PvE...

Then they came for me, the solofarmer... and the necromancers, paragons, and mesmers dont seem to care that I'm being nerfed out of PvE....

Stealthc · Apr 20, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Hey guys didn't you hear Guild Wars is dead why are we still posting?!?!?!

reetkever · Apr 20, 2007, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Who'd be leaving over this?

Solo-farmers? Well, I don't want to be harsh, but really, what do they contribute to the whole gaming community?

-They solo mostly (farming). So, their leaving won't affect PuG quality (or better, it might be improved).
-They don't PvP (because they're farming).
-They whine whenever any farming exploits & AI adjustments fix/take place.
-Some of them sell gold for real money, inflating the economy.

Can you spell it? GOOD RIDDANCE.

Since when was there PuG quality to begin with? Most farmers also did missions/quests. With these people gone, there are less people who might want to go with PuGs

Alot of farmers both PvP and PvE. They PvP because PvE offers them nothing except farming after beating the game.

There is a reason why people whine.

Farmers do NOT sell gold for real money, that's the botters. Also, farmers are MAKING the economy, by introducing rare weapons into the market, as well as materials, dyes etc.

Ohh, and most people who finish the game after 8 times either quit the game or farm. With farming gone, only quitting is left. Soon, PvE will become deserted, since everyone will have beaten the game 8 or more times, and no new players come (since this is NOT good for A-net's reputation)

Bowman Artemis · Apr 20, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Skill Balance 1: Guild Wars is Dead.
Skill Balance 2: Guild Wars is Dead.
Skill Balance 3: Guild Wars is Dead.
Factions beta: Guild Wars is Dead.
Pre-Factions Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Factions release: Guild Wars is Dead.
Post-Tourney Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
HA Party Size Change and Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Nightfall Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
55 Monk Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Post-55-Balance Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Latest Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.

Last time I checked, Guild Wars is still very much alive. I must be really, really stupid or something.

Mordakai · Apr 20, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

My sarcastic comments before this thread is locked and loaded:

"The death of Guild Wars is greatly exaggerated." - Mark Twain

"Guild Wars is dead... and you and I have killed it." - Nietzsche

"Guild Wars is dead...

Long Live Guild Wars!"

- Prince Rurik (I think!)

Taurucis · Apr 20, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

Guild wars isn't exactly dead, no... but it's well on its way there.

I recall somewhere, a dev said that they didn't want to destroy farming... yet here they go and destroy it. This is another update where the ones at the top rise higher, and the ones stuck at the bottom sink lower. "Work harder" you people say? Some people aren't as lucky with drops.

To the OP - don't feel bad about 70% of the people flaming you... it happens to most of the people who were happy with the pre-nerf equilibrium. Nice pic BTW.

Terra Xin · Apr 20, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by Bowman Artemis

Skill Balance 1: Guild Wars is Dead.
Skill Balance 2: Guild Wars is Dead.
Skill Balance 3: Guild Wars is Dead.
Factions beta: Guild Wars is Dead.
Pre-Factions Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Factions release: Guild Wars is Dead.
Post-Tourney Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
HA Party Size Change and Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Nightfall Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
55 Monk Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Post-55-Balance Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.
Latest Skill Balance: Guild Wars is Dead.

Last time I checked, Guild Wars is still very much alive. I must be really, really stupid or something.

I can't believe the added number of people who play the game every time Anet makes an awesome update, you'd think it would die out completely like the OP clearly proved, but darn, there must be something wrong with those players. How can they be playing when the OP says the game is dead?? It's unthinkable. Although I have to agree with you Artemis, but if you're really that stupid, then I'm just as (if not more) stupid, because I'm still playing the game. ^^

Now, you can call this thread dead itself. My flaming ball of sarcasm chopped it all up.

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Originally Posted by reetkever

There is a reason why people whine.

Because they don't want to change, or because they passed a 5 minute judgement on the update and in a month someone will discover a loop in farming and another type of farming will arise and this thread will no longer exist, which is the exact reaction from whiners every single time anet makes an update??? Oh wait, you're supposed to answer this one:

For the sake of this thread... that reason you have for whining, would be...?

While you're at it, I would love to hear some references from the following statistics you provided, because I don't think 'most' people would agree with you. Here they are, just in case you forgot:

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Ohh, and most people who finish the game after 8 times either quit the game or farm.

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Also, farmers are MAKING the economy, by introducing rare weapons into the market, as well as materials, dyes etc.

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Most farmers also did missions/quests.

actually that one there is redundant... how can farmers NOT do quests or missions?

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With these people gone, there are less people who might want to go with PuGs

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Soon, PvE will become deserted, since everyone will have beaten the game 8 or more times, and no new players come (since this is NOT good for A-net's reputation)
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apaches · Apr 20, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

"Nietzsche is dead." - Guild Wars nerf team

KANE OG · Apr 20, 2007, 01:41 PM // 13:41

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

Who'd be leaving over this?

Solo-farmers? Well, I don't want to be harsh, but really, what do they contribute to the whole gaming community?

I, for one, MAY be leaving because of it. It also never states in the EULA that I have to contribute to the whole gaming community.

KANE

Abnaxus · Apr 20, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

There's a hidden reason for this update, it was well pointed out by another user in another thread, I agree with his opinion:

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Originally Posted by Buce

Why Anet hate farming is not the bots, but their server capacity. Eight players playing solo means eight instances, while eight people playing pugs need only one instance.

GW1 is in phase out, they already got money from those who have bought the game, now they need to find systems which reduce their maintenance cost.

This update has nothing to do with encouraging cooperative gaming or stopping bots and ebay sellers.

In my opinion it's the first step of a new policy of cost reduction, obtained by getting rid of soloers, who took to many resources.

A cunning move, very well hidden in a big update, but it's first sign of what will happen in the future of GW1, which they're phasing out.

Wilhelm · Apr 20, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Awww whiney nerds have to play with others now.......I'm sorry you can't play an Multiplayer game by yourself. anymore.

Corran Horn · Apr 20, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Uhh, did no one notice that they also got rid of the anti-farming code?

Repeated map entry no longer reduces loot.

So, how is farming dead? My first time out in HM I got 2 golds and a purple in OLD ASCALON!!!