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Old May 13, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56   #81
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I personally think that TC are a bunch of fags who screw up Arena Net's whole idea for Elite Missions. This is because of 1 HUGE reason.
1. Elite Missions are MADE FOR ONLY ALLIANCE MEMBERS, as soon as you allow everyone into the Elite Mission it screws with why Arena Net made the Elite Missions.

I am a member of the Black Blades, so maybe I am just pissed that we lost Cavalon to a bunch of cheaters. But I believe that yall letting in everyone is pretty freaking screwed, and I'm hoping that another alliance will take Cavalon and use it as A-Net ment it.

I also believe that yalls getting everyone to donate faction to you is a load, and that is another reason why TC do not deserve the Deep. Yall had the world working for u and yall finally won Cavalon I hope yall are happy that it took players from just about every alliance to take a single alliance, who got all our faction on our own.

So to some all of this up I will say these final few points.
1. Get your own freaking faction.
2. Don't screw with A-Net's plan for elite missions.
3. Call me an Elitist, or a jerk, or just about anything else yall want. But at least are not f***ing cheaters.

Yours Truly, Akasun Sasori
if ANet wanted ONLY alliance members to be able to get into The Deep, why in the hell would they even allow them to bring in other people? use your noggin flamerboy.

and how exactly are they cheating? sounds like you guys are bitter that some people are actually nice
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03   #82
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I personally think that TC are a bunch of fags who screw up Arena Net's whole idea for Elite Missions. This is because of 1 HUGE reason.
1. Elite Missions are MADE FOR ONLY ALLIANCE MEMBERS, as soon as you allow everyone into the Elite Mission it screws with why Arena Net made the Elite Missions.

I am a member of the Black Blades, so maybe I am just pissed that we lost Cavalon to a bunch of cheaters. But I believe that yall letting in everyone is pretty freaking screwed, and I'm hoping that another alliance will take Cavalon and use it as A-Net ment it.

I also believe that yalls getting everyone to donate faction to you is a load, and that is another reason why TC do not deserve the Deep. Yall had the world working for u and yall finally won Cavalon I hope yall are happy that it took players from just about every alliance to take a single alliance, who got all our faction on our own.

So to some all of this up I will say these final few points.
1. Get your own freaking faction.
2. Don't screw with A-Net's plan for elite missions.
3. Call me an Elitist, or a jerk, or just about anything else yall want. But at least are not f***ing cheaters.

Yours Truly, Akasun Sasori
This has to be the most satisfying post I've ever read in a GW forum. This makes me as happy as a little school girl.

TC, and Photics, you guys rock. Now I just need to get to Cavalon.

THANK YOU AND HUGS!!!!!!
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #83
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3. Call me an Elitist, or a jerk, or just about anything else yall want. But at least are not f***ing cheaters.
You forgot stupid and immature. Maybe you're not a cheater, but neither are The Crusaders, so I guess they beat you on all fronts, eh? If it's a part of game design and not an exploit, then it isn't cheating. "TC are cheaters" are the words of a sore loser. Grow up.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:26 PM // 22:26   #84
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This makes no sense sure way to go TC and all other alliances but to make the elite mission available to anyone is ridiculous. IT IS NO LONGER A ELITE MISSION. Im not saying access should only be limmitted to one alliance but people who didnt earn any faction and didnt do anything are getting access to the mission. Me personally i want to earn access to the elite mission. Its something to strive for not just some normal mission. I am very dissapointed.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:33 PM // 22:33   #85
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We are not forcing people to go to The Deep, we are just balancing what BkBd regime done,,,
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #86
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its still just as elite, the fact that you can get in there is moot, the real challenge comes from being able to actually beat it. that's not just gonna happen with any ol' PUG.

good job TC, i'm glad you raped Black Bladez in the ass.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:35 PM // 22:35   #87
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But that makes no sense wat did they do wrong. Im Confused? Im pretty sure they played the game the way it was supposed to be. They worked hard and gained faction and control of cavalon. And they earned there access into cavalon. Now ppl are just going in that didnt do anything. Sure tc go and do the mission but dont let everyone in. Its not elite now. makes no sense
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36   #88
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IT IS NO LONGER A ELITE MISSION.
That's just going on the assumption that it's called an 'elite' mission because of an 'elite' requirement to get in. It seems like half the GW population assumed this. See how easy it is to lead people around with vagueness and ambiguity?

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Its not elite now.
Does the difficulty decrease when more people enter? I always thought it was called an 'elite' mission because you had to be 'elite' to succeed.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36   #89
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but that is not why anet created it. it was supposed to be for ppl who earned it.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #90
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all i know is i am very dissapointed
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40   #91
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but that is not why anet created it. it was supposed to be for ppl who earned it.
I think this has been said before, but if Anet only wanted alliance members in it, they would have built it that way. Have you ever tried to take a Factions character into a pre-Lions Arch Prophecies mission? It won't let you go, it says "party contains a member of a disallowed campaign." They could have built a similar restriction into 'elite' missions, but they didn't.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41   #92
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Its no longer an elite mission? of course it is since its hard to beat. Grinding away like mindless automatons to actually get to it, is not elite in my opinion.

I think that TC have taken a nice initiative and this should continue. I dont know anyone in TC and neither do I know anyone in Blackblades. But from the rant by the sasori guy below (learn grammar & how to spell), I dont get a very good impression of the Blackblades.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42   #93
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id just like to think the member from TC who bought me into the deep earlier today ....thank you
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43   #94
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well it kind of seems like communism now. Some ppl work harder then others(ex.earning faction) but all have the same equal oppurtunity(access to the deep). Im not saying the whole idea of one alliance only having access to elite missions is the best, but at least they(tc,blackblades and previous alliances holding cavalon) worked hard to earn there way in

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Old May 13, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47   #95
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ANet chose to make it possible to let other people in. If you disagree with the controlling alliance allowing other people to get into the mission, then do something about it. Go out and EARN THE RIGHT TO CONTROL THE CITY AND DO WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT.

I think this is the kind of balance that ANet intended - if alliances are going to hog the missions, then players are going to help other alliances take it away. If most people don't want to have easy access to the missions, then they will help other alliances that won't give away access take control.

Just like a democracy, the people get to choose.
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48   #96
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First of all, no person has donated to the alliance in the way that has been suggested. We have earned every bit of our faction. Personally I'm at 490k donated to The Crusaders.

Oh and to who made that post above: because we let people in to the DEEP we are OBVIOUSLY fags...because you know letting people into the deep OBVIOUSLY controls your gender preference. *sarcasm*

If you guys are so bitter dont play the mission. If ANET truely only wanted alliance members to play...then they wouldnt have added the ability for party members to get into the deep, just alliance members.

Oh and another thing...If black blades are so nice, genuine and true, why are their own members afraid of not gaining 5k faction a day, accidently letting someone into the deep, or selling an item for money. Come on, alliance members shouldnt be living in fear of their guild.

Oh and by the way, we are running a contest within our alliance- one of the reasons we are massivly farming.

All in all- dont be bitter, its just a game, you still get access to the deep, how is more people doing the same mission going to ruin your experiance? Oh no! you wont get more drops than usual, if you care about that you're just greedy, we actually care about the community.

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well it kind of seems like communism now.
i can see Karl Marx and Lenin smiling upon the crusaders now.

anarcho communism FTW!
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53   #98
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i was just thinking its funny most ppl probably dont even know who they are
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Old May 13, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55   #99
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I went to bed last night assuming I'd never get the opportunity to experience the elite missions. Today I log on and find that a coalition of gamers has banded together to wrest control of Cavalon and open its elite mission to everyone. Quite frankly I am in awe of your achievement and am extremely grateful that, through your efforts, I might have a chance to experience this game content that I most certainly never would have otherwise. My hat is off to every member that contributed to The Crusaders' marvelous run.
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I'm glad someone from the Black Blades responded with such immaturity. Shows where you guys are at GG! To put up some sort of a response to all this, to those that think the "elite" is taken out of the mission try to take a PUG in there and I bet you won't get past room 3 if that far.

On the note of the Black Blades, how did we cheat I'm wondering? To my knowledge at 11:00 update we haden't gotten any contributions but had gotten 1 mil ourselves between 8 guilds. You guys had gotten right around 300k or so there's part of your reason why you lost. Between me an one other person we almost matched your entire alliances contribution. Also, what about your elitist attitude and ridiculing a guild that wanted to join your alliance only a day before then deciding to take them after you found out we we're going to get them and Cavalon.

After responding to this thread last night an "ambassador" from your alliance talked to us about why all the hate. In which we said there was none and was all in fun I mean afterall, this is a game right? We thought we came to an agreement that there would be no hostilities between us but look what happens. You jump on here calling us cheaters, I've taken members from your alliance into the deep showing that we aren't discriminating only to be called names by them when they get there and basically you guys trying to do whatever you can to get your monopoly back.

While I don't knock you for being upset that you lost the capital (we were upset when we lost the two guilds) why resort to childish behavior? We just worked harder than you did and added our last 2 slots of guilds when it was time. Now that we have more or less a "community" capital we're the bad guys? How so? We were just a core group of people that had one common goal: to get Cavalon and make it enjoyable by all. Sorry it didn't work out for you to have a strangle hold on Cavalon forever. Now if you'll excuse me I need to both let more people in and do faction so we can keep this city open to the public.
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