Curse

countesscorpula · May 16, 2007, 06:08 PM // 18:08

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

1. Check this list
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero_sk...iner_locations
See any skills you might possibly want? Use all those hero points you were piling up across all your characters to unlock them. Personally I've been able to unlock over 150 skills this way. It's a bit misleading calling them hero points, as hero points unlock skills for your account.

actually, in some cases you don't even need the tome. Example: My Ele character goes to the hero skill trainer in Kodash Bazaar. Selects to teach "my heroes" Flame Djin Haste. When I open up my ele's skill menu, I will find the Fire magic skills have increased by one, because FDH is there... and I didn't spend any of my own skill points or cash, or tomes. And if it's unlocked for her, it's unlocked for all my ele heroes on all my other characters.

I know it says that it unlocks the skill for your heroes, but it adds them to the character who unlocked them too.

Miss Persephone · May 16, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

I never realised that when you used hero skill points to unlock a skill, you learnt it on that character too, so I've learnt something from this thread. Great suggestion for the balth faction, I've been doing it myself and you can rack up the points pretty quickly. And yes, amazed by how many people just want any excuse to flame. Well not really amazed, it's just kind of sad to see.

lyra_song · May 16, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Yes. This needs to be more well known.

Hero skill points are FREE SKILLS for your character.

capitalist · May 16, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

And what exactly did you pay for the tome? Nothing? Riiight...

While you do agree that this isn't earth-shattering, this is common sense and should be apparent to any player capable of playing Hard Mode.

Guru should add a "[douche] [/douche]" format for all zinger's posts.

Try and be mildly polite to others on the forum.

@OP thanks for the post.

Priestess Truth · May 16, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Some temperments and choice of words never cease to amaze me.

Kenagalaz · May 16, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

"I'll answer any question..." my ---

@OP thnx for the link.

DFrost · May 16, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

And what exactly did you pay for the tome? Nothing? Riiight...

While you do agree that this isn't earth-shattering, this is common sense and should be apparent to any player capable of playing Hard Mode.

Your negativity is tiring. Everything is either "Serious business" or "Marking the end of Guild Wars". Think happy thoughts and take a break from the game and the forums if everything is so utterly terrible around here.

To OP: Thanks for the solid advice and good reminder.

VinnyRidira · May 16, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

I use all the tomes I get from farming, and I get a lot. I used to try trading normals for 1k and elites for whatever which harkens back to the 'wts' grind that we all hate. Now I can use them........this way.

So, I paid nothing for them. And I put in two disclaimers that many of us know this. This thread isn't for people who already knew.

edit: Yichi, I believe Sardelac is for suggestions of things that don't currently exist in-game. I'm not suggesting anything, I'm pointing something out. But if a mod wants to move this, then by all means.

Why do I get the feeling I'm getting flamed.......

ROFL - mayhap its the Vini in the middle of you name.

Zinger314 · May 16, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

I wonder why people always derail threads to insult me. The OP was legitimately unclear about the cost of the tomes. If you want to insult me, do it in an PM, or ask a mod to make an "The Official Zinger314 Insult Topic."

On-topic, why exactly did ArenaNet implement Hero Skill Points anyways? It's way too confusing, considering that there's no good guideline to where the Trainers are...

lyra_song · May 16, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

Hero Skill Points need to be renamed to:

"Free Skills that become unlocked so your heroes can use it too, even if you dont have that profession as your secondary"

undeadgun · May 16, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

thx the OP, i should use up some hero skills points now

Mournblade · May 16, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Rise above people, rise above! :P

Zinger: good point, considering you and your Hero's share skills anyway. Was it always like that from day 1? I could swear it used to be like a PvP unlock so that only your hero could use the skill and you had to buy it for your character separately.

wynoski · May 16, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by Spazzer

You could always use the Tome on a 2nd pve character, but why would you even have one?

[edit] Looks like I've been beaten a lot.

I have 9 PVE characters...Everything but a sin...hate the sin...

Smile Like Umean It · May 16, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

Hero Skill Points need to be renamed to:

"Free Skills that become unlocked so your heroes can use it too, even if you dont have that profession as your secondary"

They originally named it that, but they felt it was far too long.

Zamochit · May 16, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42

I wasnt aware that elite skills unlocked in pvp could be unlocked using elite tombs, I thought you could only unlock an elite skill thats is already unlocked via pve on your account....interesting

CyberNigma · May 16, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

To add to the op's comments in support, another reason to use the tomes with the hero points would be the increase in number of hero points yolu have access to from each character. If each character can only have 33 (wiki) then you can maximize the number of skills across the account by spreading the hero points out and then tome'ing (made that up) them to other characters. Of course I think the real benefit here is to avoid the Skill Point barrier (not having enough when you want a skill, for example). Money-wise (for non-elites) I think it would still be better to sell your tomes and buy the skills (even at 1k) for less than what you made on the tome. I've run into not having enough SP's before and that would definitely have been nice. For all those looking for an argument (lots out there) I said it would be nice, as in a nice alternative, not that it's the only way or the true way to do it... (disclaimer)

Sir Skullcrasher · May 16, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Simple, don't get elites... = no money wasted!

lennymon · May 17, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

See I had no idea that the hero skill trainer actually teaches YOU the skill, thought they just unlocked them.

I've been going for all skills known on my ranger since NF came out, that's a lot of money AND a lot of skill points... now in my case I kept running out of skill points before money until HM came onto the scene. Now I have a chance to actually get somewhere this year with the tomes. Course I'm already UAS so that helps, I just farm for the tomes of one profession untill Mr Green is all done, then move onto the next. I think only about 110 skills to go total now.

viper11025 · May 17, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

What the mess?
Your telling me that I will have to spend,
3K Faction,2-3K for tome and travel time to get a elite?
LOL
I would rather go get the capture signet, cap the boss, grap the green and RUN!
LOL I'm not ranting or flaming but man thats funny,
Maybe if I was really bored and had no other way to get it I would.
(End of the game elites

)

Kenagalaz · May 17, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I wonder why people always derail threads to insult me.

Not only do you not answer ANY question I've asked you, but you can't even answer your own simple questions? Well, don't think too hard. maybe answering questions aren't your thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper11025

What the mess?
Your telling me that I will have to spend,
3K Faction,2-3K for tome and travel time to get a elite?
LOL
I would rather go get the capture signet, cap the boss, grap the green and RUN!
LOL I'm not ranting or flaming but man thats funny,
Maybe if I was really bored and had no other way to get it I would.
(End of the game elites

)

I think the OP ment instead of selling your elite tomes u find. I always have 20-30k faction lying around so it's not a problem for me, BUT

But remember, you can easily get 2k balths faction every 24 hours from the "Zaishin Challenge" . it you select your opponents to be the Illusionary Weapon Me/W you can easily beat them with Henchies (that's right, henchies, not even heros). takes like 5 minutes. I think it's easier to go this route for capping stuff like Feast of Corruption or Earth Shaker.