Curse

J snukka · May 15, 2007, 12:02 AM // 00:02

/stand up and applaud Anet. finally those spamming annoying pluckers are going to get what they deserve. learn to not spam.

Sir Skullcrasher · May 15, 2007, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Good Job A-Net, banning for spamming is the best idea sine AoE nerf and SR nerf!!

*/sarcasm*

Patrick Smit · May 15, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

Need some help with reading comprehension?

The definition of spamming is up to the Anet team to decide. I very much doubt you'll see bans of people using the trade channel. Even if it's retarded descriptions 3 times in a row. There is a filter that kicks in, and suppresses "spamming" automatically. No need for your interpretations.

The bans you will see are the wackos that insist on "spamming" their wares in the local CHAT channel. Go have a cookie.

No need to become offensive by your last remark, is really not needed in a discussion.

Now you actually quoted my argument, and therfor I will repeat your quote again and highlight what is really important there:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by EULA

(j) In the Game(s), characters have the privilege of sending server wide messages called "Chat Messages." With this privilege comes a high level of responsibility on the part of the user. Due to the fact that this communication channel has the ability to impact every player on the server, NC Interactive will not tolerate any inappropriate behavior of any sort in this chat channel. This includes but is not limited to: inappropriate language of any sort or any attempt to escape the profanity filter, inappropriate or vulgar content of any sort, repeated "spamming," or "flooding" of the chat messages channel, or any other conduct determined to be inappropriate by NC Interactive Support, in its sole discretion. Any violation of this term or rules of conduct may, in the sole discretion of NC Interactive, lead to the temporary removal of the character's ability to communicate, the account being suspended for a set period of time, or lead to permanent account closure.

Now it says of repeated spamming or flodding of any chat channel, not just the local one, also trade and other channels do fall in this category. I'm not having the reading disability here. Ofcourse the statement in bold is followed by a very freely interpretable statement that allows ncsoft full reaign over their product.

The filter just doesn't work well, it should be more tightly controlled. Its like soul reaping that was exploited for 2 years, the filter is just not apt enough to control even small repetitions, because what is the use of saying three times the same thing, tell me? Please come with arguments, go eat cookies just isn't enough of an argument for me.

Tell me would you not be annoyed of everyone automatically repeated two times what they last said? It's just interfering with the messages of others by driving them of the screen, it is a-social and egoistic.

The fact that they dont have a bot filter in granite citadel doenst mean that bots are allowed, you shouldn't reverse measures taken by anet/ncsoft to deal with extreme excess of spam and use them as arguments. they are just means to deal with the worst situations. the EULA clearly stated that repetition is not allowed. The fact that small repetitions are still possible doenst mean it is not in conflict with the EULA.

scrinner · May 15, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Screens or it didn't happen.

Bryant Again · May 15, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Smit

Now it says of repeated spamming or flodding of any chat channel, not just the local one, also trade and other channels do fall in this category. I'm not having the reading disability here. Ofcourse the statement in bold is followed by a very freely interpretable statement that allows ncsoft full reaign over their product.

The filter just doesn't work well, it should be more tightly controlled. Its like soul reaping that was exploited for 2 years, the filter is just not apt enough to control even small repetitions, because what is the use of saying three times the same thing, tell me? Please come with arguments, go eat cookies just isn't enough of an argument for me.

Tell me would you not be annoyed of everyone automatically repeated two times what they last said? It's just interfering with the messages of others by driving them of the screen, it is a-social and egoistic.

That's scary...I'm sticking to the auctions on Guru for maximum safetinessnessness.

Ahrims Assassin · May 15, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Sooo....let me get this straight:
Arena-Net doesn't want us to make gold so they nerf the droprate.
Arena-Net wants us to sell gold items to people who have no gold so they buff the gold-item droprate.
Arena-Net decides to start dropping bans without warnings because people are trying to sell their buffed gold items to people with no gold.
I am now quite honestly confused about what Arena-Net wants from us. I know I never cared about trade or all channel in any of those cities, unless I was selling something(Which I now won't do for fear of a ban, at least until someone from A-net talks to us), and, like a previous poster said: those were the trade cities. If you want to talk to someone there, invite them to your party, or if there in you guild/alliance use that chat. But if you absolutely must use local, why pick a trade center anyway?

Clone · May 15, 2007, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I'm torn. If you were using the general chat channel, you probably got what you deserve. People that try to sell stuff there are annoying. At the same rate, I certianly understand the frustrations involved in actually trying to sell stuff in this game. The trade channel is pathetic, and the party search is by no means a suitable replacement for a well planned auction system. In the end, Anet really needs to focus less on trying to ban people for breaking the rules and spend more of their efforts on a trade system that works well and people will actually want to use.

Firebaall · May 15, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

To cookie hater:

The trade channel is not a "chat" channel. It is not there to converse. It is an ad driven medium.

Go have an apple
Go have an apple

.....ironic that you double posted your response though. lol.

J snukka · May 15, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30

well im sure an improved trade system will be implemented by the time GWEN is out.

Wish Swiftdeath · May 15, 2007, 04:39 AM // 04:39

I agree with the change, its so annoying.

Even spamming in the trade channel should be prohibited, im sick of typing out what i want to buy or sell, pressing enter to only have it disappear off the screen in half a second because some idiot wants to sell his blue req 13 FDS.....

jackie · May 15, 2007, 04:57 AM // 04:57

I'm going to experiment this new spamban system tonight just for fun if I get a chance. I have to see how easily it triggers. See you later in 71? hours

PyrAnkh · May 15, 2007, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozric

I wonder how this code works. I have a fast computer with a raid array so I like to spam a one-liner in each district then pop-in to another district and do it again. I'll go to all the major towns and just spam one line, then on to the next. This way I can find that one guy that's looking for my item wherever he is. Hopefully this code doesn't discriminate against me that much, since I'm only spamming one line per district.

I highly doubt that seeing as that is exactly what i did. I dont see why people post DESERVED BAN!!!oneone. I mean, cmon, 2 lines each city i attend on my way to kamadan can hardly justify a ban for spamming.
I totally agree on banning people spamming their WTS stuff for hours on an end though.

Ahrims Assassin · May 15, 2007, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

I totally agree on banning people spamming their WTS stuff for hours on an end though.

But if that's the only way Arena-Net wants us to make money, what are we supposed to do? Especially now that they're banning people for trying to sell things that Arena-Net is telling us we should sell.

Quote:

I mean, cmon, 2 lines each city i attend on my way to kamadan can hardly justify a ban for spamming.

They seriously banned you for that???? Arena-Net, please come explain your new policy to us.

Kotetsu Rain · May 15, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28

I think it's a fair ban but the limit's waaay too high. I think whoever banned you either had a really bad hangover or was on their period. Or both...

I still kinda say that this is just another result of the lack of a better trade system. I mean the party search function only works for one-shot items but for those rare golds and colorfull greens that we've all come to know and love theres not enough room to type out what attracts our customers.

I mean my lil bro used to play this other Free MMO called Last Chaos. For buying/selling you we're able to open a sort of trading form that you can drag and drop items into, add a little price tag, and then go afk. It sounds pretty uneffective but it works for the most part but one improvement to this would be golden.

If you we're also able to search for the name of the item you were trying to buy. I have the upmost confidence that Anet can pull such a feat off. Sure they're busy but this would be the update of the ages.

Alderin · May 15, 2007, 05:35 AM // 05:35

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Originally Posted by J snukka

well im sure an improved trade system will be implemented by the time GWEN is out.

If that was the case then shouldn't they wait till they implement one before they requiring it's use?

Div · May 15, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

One person whines about getting banned with no proof of what he did and the entire community gets fired up against Anet? For all we know, he might've been banned for using a script the day before. Seriously, this shows how instinctive and mindless a lot of the posters on guru are.

Ahrims Assassin · May 15, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

One person whines about getting banned with no proof of what he did and the entire community gets fired up against Anet? For all we know, he might've been banned for using a script the day before. Seriously, this shows how instinctive and mindless a lot of the posters on guru are.

Maybe if there was really only one there wouldn't be a problem, and it would all be just some fake, but I'm seeing threads on GWO as well as here, and more than one person in them.

Heres one, there was another that got locked for supposedly stirring up hate against A-net or something.
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=452009
Ah wait, that one was closed too. Some sensitive mods there.
Anyway, I hope we see something by Arena-Net rather than this silence. Clear up some of the confusion maybe.

Luna Star · May 15, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57

If people didn't buy your item the first time, then i doubt spamming it is gonna make them buy it.
It's a good move from a-net and hopefully those outposts will get cleaned up a bit.
It has been clearly said in the Eula that any spam is wrong no matter where.

Shadis · May 15, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by J snukka

well im sure an improved trade system will be implemented by the time GWEN is out.

I remember saying that before Factions' release... then Nightfall's... Yeah, I really don't see one coming anytime soon. Unless they have a super secret surprise for us, I'm not holding out much hope.

arcanemacabre · May 15, 2007, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by J snukka

well im sure an improved trade system will be implemented by the time GWEN is out.

Don't hold your breath.

Gaile, perhaps a little usual hand waving and "We'll look into it, surely there's more to this" is in order? Or maybe an admittance that the support team is now actively banning spammers, or some new code was introduced. So yeah, either an "aye" or "nay" on this accusation.