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savage vapor 33 · Jun 02, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Why would you respect something that looks ugly in the first place?

pork soldier · Jun 02, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

To answer the OP's question:

NO.

$ebay = obsidian armor in 20 minutes, no need to respect something everyone can have in 20 minutes..

Seissor · Jun 02, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33

why respect R9 players then? accounts can be ebayed too. I think you'll find most FoW owners didnt ebay it, they are just farmers or have good GW money making skills.

I got my FoW after some farming and also thanks to modding rare weapons, my platnium blade scored me 500k towards it

Pandora's box · Jun 02, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47

I hardly notice the way armors look

undeadgun · Jun 02, 2007, 10:50 AM // 10:50

wear what u like, who cares other ppl talkin s**t? i am what i am, and i play this game for fun, for myself, NOT for any of you out there. for those who think ppl ebaying fow, i think u are just jealous.....-_-

freekedoutfish · Jun 02, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by pork soldier

To answer the OP's question:

NO.

$ebay = obsidian armor in 20 minutes, no need to respect something everyone can have in 20 minutes..

You could say exactly the same thing every purchable item ingame! Are you saying there are no material objects that are worth respecting if you own them?

Gunzwei · Jun 02, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

I just think of it as being expensive, and little else. Titles in much the same way don't really prove much beyond the ability to farm points for a title.

In other MMO's where work is required for all facets of the game titles/gear have far more weight in determining skill/status.

Chicken Ftw · Jun 02, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Are you saying there are no material objects that are worth respecting if you own them?

That's exactly what I think. I don't care what equipment you have, as long as you're skilled at what you do and not a moron. Unfortunately, finding someone skilled is rare enough these days, finding someone skilled who is also of respectable character is even more difficult.

I just don't see where the items someone owns could ever make them worth my respect.

4ssassin · Jun 02, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

Bah. There is (rarely) any level of skill attached to getting rich in a game. Its simply how long you are willing to do a repetitive task (farming) over and over and over. The people that can stand to do it the longest and have the most free time are the richest. Lets face it. Farming may be hard the first few times, but since your killing the exact same monsters on the exact same map using the exact same skills over and over, its not really anything to brag about. Whenever I see someone with FoW, I think "huh, must have alot of free time"

Eh. All I do on GW is AB and Fort Aspenwood, and I don't really get anything for that, but its fun. so what if I have nearly 2300 hrs and no max titles and no FoW, and I'm not a GW milloniare? I bet Ive had way more fun than the people than did the exact same X minute run over and over all day did....unless you somehow actually like that stuff.

TheUndying · Jun 03, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

When I see someone in Fow, I just walk right pass them, no need to stare, they're just like everyone else. The only Fow armor that I liked is the ritualist one and that's about it, to me, I rather have all 15k sets in all 3 campaigns. The Vabbi armor was a set that I was proud of, but now it's just there in my character's inventory. Right now i'm just saving my gold for the next armor sets in GW:EN.

JGaff · Jun 03, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Just to hop into the discussion quickly...

I happen to own a set of Male Mesmer Obsidian armor.

To say it's "respected" would be an overstatement. I will mention however that I do get whispers in town about it on a semi-frequent basis. The responses range from "WTF is that shit you're wearing" to "Nice armor".

Personally, FOW armor on many of the core clases are cliche, but I think people in general don't mind seeing the occasional Sin/Rit/ Mesmer/Derv/Para armors sans black dye.

FYI, I farmed my ass off to get the money, and I'm assisting my bro in getting a full rit set. Sometimes, once you've played the game fully in one aspect, you need to find another "goal" and focus on that. For some people, it's a really, really expensive armor you want...

Sol Deathgard · Jun 03, 2007, 03:33 AM // 03:33

I have a guildie that got FoW on his Warrior, but he never farmed for money or materials, he's one of those people that bought money online with real money. Sad thing is, after he got his FoW armor, I gave up on making mine because of seeing that, anyone can make it and not work anywhere near as hard as I was. In my eyes, FoW does not mean they are a good player or rich, it means they have money to burn on game money and should be banned for it.

Sir Green Aluminum · Jun 03, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

You could say exactly the same thing every purchable item ingame! Are you saying there are no material objects that are worth respecting if you own them?

You can respect them if you got them yourself but if someone's like I'm better than you because I have Fow armour, they don't deserve respect and don't get yourself down if you don't have it. There are gold sellers so there are definately people who buy FOW or 15ks with it, what else would you buy gold for? That'd be a nein for if I respect fow armour, I just think it looks nice depending on what class.

the_jos · Jun 03, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Being in a guild that started as a farming guild, I've seen my share of FoW armor.
I don't care, the people playing are nice, that's what matters.
It's true that people buy FoW online, but there are a lot of players that bought it with gold they made ingame.
I also know that people with FoW used to have a lot of gold once, but that does not say anything on their current gold/ecto stash.

When I play, I don't even look at other players armor.
When playing with someone from my guild, he got the 'nice armor' comment, that was when I first noticed he has FoW, while I had been playing with him before.
Since I'm our primary recruiter, I look at how people play as a team and not how they look or what titles they have.
The one exception being high PvP titles, since that's an indication to me that the player has fair team play experience.
But I could also have seen that when playing with them.

Komes I · Jun 03, 2007, 08:40 AM // 08:40

Obsidian armor looks quite bad for most proffesions, especially for warriors but for some reasons people think it is uber so they buy it. Evryone can have it now so that isn't quite respectfull...

Toilet Oni · Jun 03, 2007, 01:09 PM // 13:09

I don't mind if people wear fow armor or not, not a biggie really.

ain't as cool as it was back in the days ;P

cthulhu reborn · Jun 03, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

You could say exactly the same thing every purchable item ingame! Are you saying there are no material objects that are worth respecting if you own them?

If you buy an item in game with cash that you earned in game then you can see it as an achievement still. But to buy it with real life cash only means you know how to use a credit card and has no value and thus no respect in the game.

I mean if you are a rich kid in real life and your dad gives you a car, people may think it's cool but it has nothing to do with respect. You can't have a sense of real pride since you did nothing for it. If you work a long time and save the money then you will feel some real pride.
The thing is that material possessions only have a value equal to what was invested into it.
If you want to have people go 'wow, that guys has this or that' which means he has done some noteworthy effort then you speak of respect. But it is the effort behind it and not the item itself that gives respect. In that sense end game armour should have more respect since it means you actually have to have finished the game, which implies actual effort.
But FoW armour you can get without doing the missions and buying cash online again means not doing an actual effort. So the armour itself is no indication that the person really did much effort to get it.

lacasner · Jun 03, 2007, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Why would you respect something that looks ugly in the first place?

umm..is there really an answer to this question...

Lykan · Jun 03, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

It never did.

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Miss Puddles · Jun 03, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

i have 2 sets of fow armor, one on my necro and one on my mes.
my necro armor took me about 3 or 4 months to acquire, starting with maybe 40k in the bank and zero materials. i earned that armor the hard way.
my mesmer armor took about 2 weeks. why the difference? i had been doing doa for a month straight. not trying to get rich, but because i enjoy it. of course, the going rate for gem sets at this point was still 90k, but it didn't take too long to scrape up the money for the armor. note that ectos were still 10k apeice as well. so i consider that set earned the hard way as well. instead of farming uw (where i have horrible luck and find it horribly boring) i used my gem money for supplies. i think that's legit.
so not every fow set you see out there (and yes, there are tons out there now) are e-bayed or whatnot. there is still people who earn it.