Curse

Hyper.nl · Jun 17, 2007, 09:14 PM // 21:14

I hope ANet will undo the nerf, I switched from Fire to Earth some time ago, and used Stoneflesh quite a bit. Together with the other enchatns I have to keep up it's keeping me more and more busy.

akazukin cha cha · Jun 17, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

*Flips off all the PvPtards who 'defended' the nerf by attacking the original poster*

It was an unhelpful nerf.
There may have been a problem on the playground tag side of Guild Wars... but that would only be because people aren't bringing things like Chilblains and the like with them enough. There aren't any shortage of ways to take down earth elementalist tankers.... even without this unneeded nerf.

What the nerf IS doing however is gradually reducing the number of viable farming builds down essentially toward just the one... the 55 monk.... the same used by the bots. Sometimes that isn't even an option, but apparently that is what A-Net wants... More people playing the 55 monks... possibly more farmers (since that actually makes them money when they ban the fetchers)... and none of the rest.

Ridiculous.

It might not have occurred to you.... but people "taking advantage" of any skill in PvP is what stops it being entirely a game of luck between completely identical teams in the first place. Not only that but since it was one that could be fairly easily countered, there is NO cause for complaint.

Please explain to me how Stoneflesh don't work anymore? Before you jump on people for calling you stupid, why don't you explain to the VERY DETAIL, how its sooooooo freaking impossible to stoneflesh farm now?

Guess what I still can.... You still can, its just SLIGHTLY more difficult. "Omg you need a 20% enchant mod now and may have to mess with attributes and glyph of EP now!?!?!?!!? EVEN WORSE you may have to look into *gasp* skills you haven't thought about using before!!!"

Why is it so hard to adapt? I find it incredilbly hard not to just directly insult you people who inexplicably play this game for years and seemingly LEARN NOTHING from it!

cha cha

Engel the Fallen · Jun 17, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

The nerf was made because of people complaining about it's imbalance in RA. Random Arenas folks, that is what ANET opted to balance here.

kazjun · Jun 18, 2007, 05:11 AM // 05:11

lol at RA balance

Patrick Smit · Jun 18, 2007, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by Engel the Fallen

The nerf was made because of people complaining about it's imbalance in RA. Random Arenas folks, that is what ANET opted to balance here.

The only thing they need to add to RA is limit fights to 2 or 3 minutes then decide win on kill count, and in equal case raw damage dealt (before damage reduction etc). That way only offensive play is promoted. earth tanks are so easy to destroy, it takes but one skill.

Faer · Jun 18, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

What the nerf IS doing however is gradually reducing the number of viable farming builds down

No farming builds were nerfed with this update. Therefore, your point is moot.

Don't exaggerate things.

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

If you cant kill an earth tank then your gonna have a hard time with a 55 monk, but the skill still chains anyway so earth tank grievers shouldnt have a problem.

I agree. Personally, I am against griefer builds in all forms of PvP (even the lowest ones). Balancing around RA/AB is laughable, but a hit on griefers is commendable. I have mixed emotions about the update, but overall, I'm glad that it was a bit of the aforementioned hit on griefing, and so I'm happy with it (this particular bit of it, anyways).

pork soldier · Jun 18, 2007, 06:07 AM // 06:07

Nerfing Stoneflesh is a good thing, it's ridiculously overpowered (should have been an elite in it's original state) and is abused in most ele farming builds.

At least now farmers have to try to keep their enchants up, it's not brain-dead button mashing (well, yes, it is- but it's more challenging braindead button mashing).

Good riddance.

Levi Garett · Jun 18, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

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Originally Posted by pork soldier

Nerfing Stoneflesh is a good thing, it's ridiculously overpowered (should have been an elite in it's original state) and is abused in most ele farming builds.

At least now farmers have to try to keep their enchants up, it's not brain-dead button mashing (well, yes, it is- but it's more challenging braindead button mashing).

Good riddance.

Wow heaven forbid the brain dead button mashing RA'ers couldn't handle putting an interrupt or enchantment removal on their bar to disable stoneflesh aura griefing.

Horray for ANet catering to crybabies that can't think up a counter to a single non-maintained enchantment in PvP.

Regardless farming will continue as it always does. It's only the cookie cutter babies that can't think for themselves that will suffer from this change so personally I don't care. The economy is 99.9% destroyed anyways so farming is getting quite pointless nowadays. My heroes are getting quite pimped out though!

fenix · Jun 18, 2007, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by Levi Garett

Wow heaven forbid the brain dead button mashing RA'ers couldn't handle putting an interrupt or enchantment removal on their bar to disable stoneflesh aura griefing.

Horray for ANet catering to crybabies that can't think up a counter to a single non-maintained enchantment in PvP.

Regardless farming will continue as it always does. It's only the cookie cutter babies that can't think for themselves that will suffer from this change so personally I don't care. The economy is 99.9% destroyed anyways so farming is getting quite pointless nowadays. My heroes are getting quite pimped out though!

No...not really.

Who cares if Stoneflesh was nerfed? So you have to have 16 Earth now for it to last the right amount of time. So? Stoneflesh made all damage 0. Of course it needed nerfing. Earth Tanks are stupid builds anyway, just bring damage. Less QQ more Pew Pew.

Akaraxle · Jun 18, 2007, 06:33 AM // 06:33

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Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

If you made this nerf because of the Invincimentalists there's a lot of skills to remove enchantments especially rend.

Eheh, so you can bring Obsidian Flesh, you funny guy!

Burning Blade · Jun 18, 2007, 06:39 AM // 06:39

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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

If you cant kill an earth tank then your gonna have a hard time with a 55 monk, but the skill still chains anyway so earth tank grievers shouldnt have a problem.

So true. Next: nerf that stupid PS. Noobs keeping bringing it to RA and we can't kill them because they have so many enchants!