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bhavv · Jun 15, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Ok, so we just got these great Sunspear skills and I just went to equip my para with 'Theres nothing to fear' instead of watch yourself to counter for the armor stacking nerf.....

And I cant.

Plz fix this or allow us to equip heroes with the sunspear skills.

Star Alfur · Jun 15, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Switching secondary to /P works.

bhavv · Jun 15, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Then I cant use necrosis.

I would like to be able to equip my heroes with 2 sunspear skills each, just like I can, I dont see why this isnt possible.

GloryFox · Jun 15, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

I strongly disagree.

Allowing these skills for HERO's will kill the PuG. PuG's are still loved by some.

Kinn · Jun 15, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Heroes have already destroyed the coop game, they shouldn't be made even more powerful

Navaros · Jun 15, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

People who don't wanna PUG are not going to suddenly PUG because of Sunspear skills. It's not like they need any help whatsoever with the very low difficulty in normal mode. LOL

Absolutely the Sunspear skills should be usable on Heroes.

Wasn't the point of the skills to make hard mode more balanced? Well, there is still hardly any other players available to party with doing hard mode and therefore Heroes are required to fill the vast majority of party slots in hard mode. Therefore the Sunspear skills should be usable on Heroes.

bhavv · Jun 16, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01

I dont pug and never will. I play PVE solo and would like to be able to play HM solo.

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Originally Posted by Kinn

Heroes have already destroyed the coop game, they shouldn't be made even more powerful

Way too incorrect. The coop game was destroyed by rubbish pugs, and that is the reason why I dont pug. 90% of puggers have pure lame skill bars, and nothing unlocked, I doubt people that pug are going to have rank 10 sunspear as well.

Bryant Again · Jun 16, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

I strongly disagree.

Allowing these skills for HERO's will kill the PuG. PuG's are still loved by some.

Lol, "Kill The Pug"? Pugs are already dead.

And redengine yea, I'm switching to /P for this, since I have to. Not missing out on a whole lot since I'm a warrior, anyways - relyin' mostly on my primary skillz is how I roll.

Pkest · Jun 16, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Yeah I don't get it. Am I missing something? You go to the Hero skill trainer to learn them but can't use them on heroes?

Yichi · Jun 16, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

This is already goign to make pve even easier. do you need it to be mindless?

Bryant Again · Jun 16, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

This is already goign to make pve even easier. do you need it to be mindless?

It isn't already???

Navaros · Jun 16, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

This is already goign to make pve even easier. do you need it to be mindless?

PVE in normal mode was already extremely easy way before these Sunspear skills came out. Making it even easier in normal mode doesn't really matter since good players will breeze through every area of the game with no problem whatsoever anyways, even without any Sunspear skills.

Hard mode will still be plenty hard with Sunspear skills on Heroes.

noocoo · Jun 16, 2007, 12:46 AM // 00:46

/ Notsigned

It will encourge us to get all players party, not just like single game with heros and henchies.

The Legg · Jun 16, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

/signed completely

Gave up putting up with pugs long ago. Any who say this will hurt pugs more are right it will but to be honest pugs are already a thing of the past for most people in none elite areas. As mentioned previously pugs in general contain at least one person who makes the gaming experience unenjoyable for the group, either by stupidity, rubbish skill combinations or just being a retard. We all had to put up with them in chapters one and two, thank god we dont have to anymore.

Letting heros have access to these new pve only skills will be a positive move by anet.

Twinsoul · Jun 16, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Aside from having fun with guildies (for which I still use heroes to fill out the group) I use heroes and henchies for all my PvE excursions. I would really love to have these skills on my heroes, but I also understand the reasoning for not including them. Still, gotta say /signed.

darktyco · Jun 16, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Yes please allow heroes to use these as primary. I hardly ever pug (since it is almost always a disaster) and would like to have my heroes use these, especially for HM. Not letting heroes use these is not going to increase my chances of going with a PuG.

Draikin · Jun 16, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by noocoo

It will encourge us to get all players party, not just like single game with heros and henchies.

Fair enough, it's true that with these PvE only skills even bad players can be of some use to the team. However, in that case there's no longer a reason not to allow us to use 7 heroes (by which I mean replacing henches with heroes, without additional controls).

Bryant Again · Jun 16, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Twinsoul

I would really love to have these skills on my heroes, but I also understand the reasoning for not including them.

It would only be fair to make them usable by heroes.

But I agree with you. ANet really wants people to play with each other, so I feel as though they'd try anything at this point to encourage people to play with each other (something they wouldn't admit to).

Sadly, this'll do little for me to play with other people, and the reasons are apparent and obvious.

The Bard · Jun 16, 2007, 01:37 AM // 01:37

/signed

every pug member isn't going to have r10 sunspear anyways, grinding to be accepted into a party is ftl.

i do see why heroes can't equip them now though, but really they should.

Tactical-Dillusions · Jun 16, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52

I'd like heroes to use them.