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Old Jun 22, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31   #1
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I played a bit of Fort Aspenwood to farm some faction, but stopped soon when the leeching problem is getting out of hand.

Anyway I noticed something strange about one of the leechers.



She is a R20 Ranger, a PvP character without a secondary, using Sprint, a Warrior Skill.

She activates it at regular intervals, so obviously a bot/macro user.

So is this a GW bug?
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 01:37 PM // 13:37   #2
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Are you sure she's a PvP character?

Maybe she's a PvE ranger who left Elona before picking a secondary. 'Sprint' is one of the skills you can take in Churrhir Fields as part of the secondary profession training.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38   #3
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Um didnt you listen LVL 20! Quests like that are limited to elonian low level chars only. That right there is a bot string command line. Continously looping in concession. Learn the programming first. ArenaNet won't do anything about the bots...oh well.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43   #4
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Getting secondary requires questing, so powerleveling a character makes much more sense.

And yes, it's perfectly possible to have a level 20 PvE without secondary, even more, they can use any secondary skills they want (from the choices available while starting)
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09   #5
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That right there is a bot string command line. Continously looping in concession. Learn the programming first.
You have to realize that what you said makes absolutely no sense, and you completely pulled it out of your ass. Even if it is a bot, their actions are still performed server-side where checks are made.

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Learn the programming first.
I think that's what you need to do.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11   #6
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Double post... oops /sorry
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #7
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ArenaNet won't do anything about the bots...oh well.
You're such an ignorant dumbass. Anet is doing loads of stuff to ban bots.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:25 PM // 15:25   #8
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Hold on a moment.

This might be pushing it a bit..... but if she is LEECHING at Fort Aspenwood.... then why is the player sticking around to activate Sprint at regular intervals? Surely the whole point of leeching there is that you don't have to be at the keyboard?
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29   #9
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Hold on a moment.

This might be pushing it a bit..... but if she is LEECHING at Fort Aspenwood.... then why is the player sticking around to activate Sprint at regular intervals? Surely the whole point of leeching there is that you don't have to be at the keyboard?
...it's a bot.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30   #10
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Or i can have a macro program hit a button at certain intervals to avoid possible afk detection?
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33   #11
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I didn't think you could get that far in the story if you didn't have a secondary, even with that bug which occurred.

Am i right?
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #12
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Or i can have a macro program hit a button at certain intervals to avoid possible afk detection?

That's a bot
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36   #13
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I didn't think you could get that far in the story if you didn't have a secondary, even with that bug which occurred.

Am i right?
I don't know, sometimes when I play PVP, I only see the first profession of the player until the person loads. Perhaps it never updated or something?!
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40   #14
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Um didnt you listen LVL 20! Quests like that are limited to elonian low level chars only. That right there is a bot string command line. Continously looping in concession. Learn the programming first. ArenaNet won't do anything about the bots...oh well.
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I didn't think you could get that far in the story if you didn't have a secondary, even with that bug which occurred.

Am i right?
Going for two birds with one stone here.

It used to be possible to go to Lion's Arch and Kaineng with an Elonan character whenever you wanted, using "taxis" and whatever. I don't know if it's still possible, but a guildie of mine has done it in the past, so I'm 100% sure it was/is possible.

A level 20 Ranger/(no secondary) with Sprint would be easy that way: make a ranger in Elona, level up to 5, take the quest to get a secondary profession, talk to the warrior trainers in Churrhir, take their skills but DON'T take the quest reward.

Then, leave for another continent and level up to 20.

Result: a PvE "R20" with Sprint.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41   #15
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From the party window it seems as if there's an E with no secondary either (in the screenshot).
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17   #16
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As it has been pointed out you COULD get out of Elona and into Factions/Prophesies without a secondary profession from Nightfall. You can do this and have some skills from a secondary profession you are "previewing". I know, I have a lvl20 Warrior about to beat Prophesies that I did it with for fun. You will often find him using skills like Remove Hex and Ressurect because they are on my bar from previewing secondarys.

I assume that is what you are seeing.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #17
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I think Gli definitely has the most logical explanation thus far. The reason I doubt that it's a hack is if the player could hack, why would they hack to get a skill that's tied to the primary attribute of another profession? I also wonder why they have it if Gil's idea is right, but I guess if you're a leech then it doesn't really matter what you put on your bar.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #18
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people are actually writing bots for apsenwood? how sad.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09   #19
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I also wonder why they have it if Gil's idea is right, but I guess if you're a leech then it doesn't really matter what you put on your bar.
Probably the same reason the Bots of Altrum Ruins used to say "Hi followed by emotes then "I love you" followed by emotes again for weeks.

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From the party window it seems as if there's an E with no secondary either (in the screenshot).
PvP chars have the option to have no secondary.
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Old Jun 22, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48   #20
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AM I the only one that thinks with 28 seconds to start it could be someone hitting sprint? I often spam cheap ass askills before any kinda of match, same as you chat or do emotes
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