Curse

MSecorsky · Jun 07, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Heck with it... giving this it's own thread.

Two days ago a level 9 warrior is in Ascalon asking for a gold sword to buy. I have a spare... a req 9 Cruel Fanged sword of Enchanting, 15^50, 20% in storage... so rather than haggle a price I just gave it to him. Seemed real appreciative, I felt good about it.

Last night... I get an accidental PM from the guy.

Selling Req 9 Cruel Fanged Sword of Enchanting, 15^50, very nice Nightfall skin! 70K.

So... I respond to the guy... you're selling the sword I gave you? "No, I'd never do that! I'm going to keep it forever!"

o.O

Sometimes our species really disappoints me.

Bryant Again · Jun 07, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

I've had some pretty bad experiences with being nice. I gave a kid 1k then he started asking for lots and lots of money.

This all depends on a player's own personal game experience. I can say for mine that it's been pretty bad, and that's why I'm not as nice as I used to be.

Kas · Jun 07, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Being nice in an online game is absolutely not worth it. The communities behave like the very bottom of mankind with not the slightest bit of respect towards another. Basically downright Wasteland Anarchy, survival of the biggest RED ENGINE BLA BLA BLA.
Whenever you do something nice, someone else is going to RED ENGINE CHILDISH SWEAR FILTER you up some more. That is the law of balance, atleast in online games.

Over the years of playing I've learned that the best stance you can have towards things in games is utter paranoia. Even amongst "best" friends.

TreeDude · Jun 07, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Too many scammers out there now. When the game was first released people were much more friendly. I remeber joining my first guild and them giving me gold so I could get started.

Maybe GW2 will bring back the good old days.

Water Angel · Jun 07, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

people are more greedy and greedy.

u help on a mission, they spam you till ignore for help on all others or for items.
when u help u rarely get help back when need it.

sighs...decidly not worth to be nice.rather be a total jerk,at last u get profit...

Healers Wisper · Jun 07, 2007, 04:15 PM // 16:15

See I disagree with this line of thinking so far. The way I see it I am not "nice" to people to get them to like me or whatever, I am nice to people because I like to be. I play this game to interact with the people who play the game. Most of which appear to be very nice. I have given things away that people have sold and so what, If I needed the money or whatnot I wouldn't have given it away.

Scammers are in the game and in real life, so what. If you can make a buck off my junk best of wishes to you. I'm not gonna stop being Nice and giving away stuff cause of a few people.

billypowergamer · Jun 07, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

It depends on the situation i think. If the person is looking for something like collector's items, I'll usually hand over whatever I have (like margonite masks) because I'll just merch them anyway.
I actually had someone looking for djinn essences a while ago and I asked them what weapon they were wanting to get. They said they needed a new wand for their ritualist. I thought about it for a sec, and then I offered them my book of secrets(I already had any endgame weapons I wanted, so I wasn't going to use it). The person was really happy and it felt good. So, i guess it's sometimes worth it to be nice....

MSecorsky · Jun 07, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23

What disappoints me is when I gave the guy the sword he appeared to really appreciate it and was swearing that that would be his weapon of choice, keep it forever, blah blah blah. Next day it's for sale. It can leave one rather jaded.

The reality is I'll likely not change my ways. I am what I am. Perhaps though I'll be more selective... maybe not help someone out that could actually use it? I hope I'm better than that...

Makes you wonder how many people didn't get help when they really needed it due to someone else's abuse.

Marth Reynolds · Jun 07, 2007, 04:26 PM // 16:26

I had some stuff i know i wouldn't use so i gave it away, started at first with giving not max lvl warriors in tyria a random max rare weapon the first respones i got really made my day, nothing beats giving away something useless and the other guy(or girl) apreciating it IMO.

For the same reason i made a give away thread, that ended kind of abrupt as a nice moderator pointed out to me that somone from the same computer was asking for items under 2 different acounts... i had no real problem with it at first until that same person asked me for another item -_-

And sometimes you have those people who want you to help em in missions etc and they know of you because you gave em something before, i barely do this tbh, but i won't do such thing henchmen will help a guy out just fine and i don't mind giving skills suggestions.

Overall i had more people that apreciated it then people who "scammed me", so it should be worth it.

XvArchonvX · Jun 07, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Let me get this straight. You were kind and generous, while the other guy was a 2-faced a-hole and you think that YOU are the person that should change??? Becoming selfish doesn't stop others from doing the same, it just feeds the vicious cycle.

FalconDance · Jun 07, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Depends on how you define worth.

If it makes you feel as if you've been helpful or nice or just that you've maybe repaid past persons being nice to you, then it's definitely worth it!

If you're 'being nice' because you expect something in return (whatever that may be), then you're not being nice - you're selling the 'nice' for a price and are no better than the people you complain about being ungrateful.

Of course, this is my take on it and may not reflect the opinions of the establishment.

One of my eles was given a Skybringer this week by a very nice person here at guru. Would I ever sell it? No but I would give it away to someone else if 1) I decide not to use it anymore later or 2) someone else needed it more then my ele did.

I know a gal who, for nearly two years, has given away more gold, green items, dyes, and everything else than you can possibly imagine. She only keeps what gold and weapons her girls need at the time and freely gives the rest at random. Heck, I've been chatting with her and made the mistake of dreaming out loud of a certian weap and the next thing you know, I'm getting a whisper to come pick it up! She doesn't advertise to sell goodies; she merchants them if no one wants them. Her reasoning? She was lucky enough to get the goodies and others may not have the opportunity or luck. She's great fun to quest with, too!

Did I mention that this individual is usually ridiculed and kicked out of PuGs because she is deaf and is slow to respond to chat/orders (can't use Vent or TS) because she must read everything carefully so as not to miss anything or takes longer to 'answer' the phone, etc.? It's horrid how some treat others.

~Falcon

onerabbit · Jun 07, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

its happend 2 me 100s of times in my guild!

i give things away, 10 mins later there advertising to sell it in alliance chat.

really pisses me off.

themeteor · Jun 07, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

It is a shame that people that try to be nice get left worse off, it is why I really like the scribes "Random Acts of Kindness" mention.

Keep up the kind work and I'm sure you will make the world, one new person at a time, at better place

brigsaz · Jun 07, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49

I have no problems with helping people out on crafting materials or collector item requirements. I have given away tons of non-max items because I am just going to sell them back to the merchant anyway. The only time I give away max items is if its white. Otherwise, I either sell it myself or give it to some of my family members that play the game with me to sell.

I agree that you really cant trust anyone online these days. =(

Wilian Norward · Jun 07, 2007, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Why do you guys even complain? If you don't like people selling off your generosity then stop giving it away.

Aera Lure · Jun 07, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53

I think its definitely worth it, but that's just me. Being nice doesnt necessarily involve simply giving away gold or items that you dont need or wont sell, but I have been known to do that from time to time too. Can also simply be helping someone out with a mission or a quest or something of that sort, even if you dont need it. I do this more often.

Being a monk I frequently get invites to parties wherever I go, and sometimes run across some pretty desperate parties. Its better at least on this count with heroes, but I'll still join a PUG to simply help out if I am not doing something pressing and they really wish for a human monk. I'd only have been working away at some title or another anyway. I have certain missions I enjoy that I just go and randomly join parties for too, when I feel like it. You sometimes get thanks from one of the other seven, but most often not. You certainly dont do it for thanks because that is very rare. If you enjoy it though, sure, its worth it, and sometimes I meet a couple players who become good friends. What you have to do though is choose when its your time and when you just wish to tag along on something for the sheer sake of it.

That said, Anet should really look at incentives for replaying missions once completed. There are none. Its why parties stand in places like Eternal Grove etc spamming LF monk etc and settling on heroes. I'd actually go play missions more often if there was an actual reason to go and do so, outside of my simply choosing to do so because I'd like to.

MMSDome · Jun 07, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

I only do good stuff for friends and guild members I have played with for a while. People are so annoying and dont appreciate anything now-a-days so I just say the hell with it. My alliance members are like puppies, you help them once they dont stop pming you for help its insane and annoying!

vergerefosh · Jun 07, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Sometimes it can be found that you try and offer help with missions and stuff because you've got nothing else to do, bit bored etc, and people will just turn their noses up.

I've got a char I use as a materials mule, made him to replace my previous one which I started playing with. Made him in Prophecies to make him look identical to 1st and got a friend to help me to LA and then Kamadan so can help ferry people. I offer to ferry, then nearly always, as soon as they find out he's only lvl 7, they leave, as if they think I'm gonna scam. If I'm standing around offering help for free or tips, not gonna rip everyone off am I? not like it's good money, just a friendly thing to do. But they're are still some good souls in the game

Zinger314 · Jun 07, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Sometimes our species really disappoints me.

MSecorsky, your negativity is not appreciated on these forums. Why are you so constantly negative? Your constant heralds of doomsday and the disappointment of our species of ridiculous. You are one of us? right? So you admit to being disappointed in yourself! Hah! This thread fails on a massive level!

[/sarcasm]

Lauryn · Jun 07, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09

I love nice people

and I always try help people when I can, although I'm not keen on giving things away as it quickly spreads within your guild/alliance and I always get PM requests, still if someone wants something and I have no use for it, why not?

Oooh and Dralspire was very nice to me

On his givaway thread I asked for 5 sparklers, he gave me 104

lol I still haven't worked my way through them

about 70-80 left lol