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Lonesamurai · Jul 10, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

I think one thing that GW1 can bring over to GW2 should be their character names. I don't think it would be wise to let another player using someones character name even if it will be a seperate game,

thats already been confirmed as happening

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

there should be a time frame where players get to set up an account to reserve their GW1 character name once GW2 is launch, like if you sign up using your GW1 login name and password and all your GW1 character name will be yours to use, after said time frame, if you don't use the existing name they will be available to other players.

and you realise how much bitchign that would start? nah, its simple, just use the same account for GW2 as you do for GW1, easy

qazwersder · Jul 10, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

I think the whole new start is a good thing. For me I enjoyed it more when i first started playing, before I knew the game inside out, when phoenix seemed like an awesome skill and i didnt know about the u map.

freekedoutfish · Jul 10, 2007, 11:29 AM // 11:29

1) You get to transfer titles and weapon(s).

2) Just because you spent a stupid amount of money buying extra character slots for GW1, you want to winge about GW2?

I dont see the connection.

Are you expecting Anet to transfer all those character slots to GW2? How many more people need to realise this is an entirely different game.

If you were daft enough to spend loads of money on character slots, that your daft fault. But GW2 isnt going to be out for another 2 or 3 years, so why are you bothered?

And what relivance will GW1 titles have on GW2? the titles are bound to be completely different. You transfer them over purely for athetic reasons. Their not going to have any benefit.

Even if you trasnfer a weapon over, it might be badly under-powered compared to newer GW2 weapons. Their are bound to be better weapons in the sequal.

Im looking forward to a new start and having everyone be on equal footing. A new race to be the bet character. No advantages over anyone!

Tijger · Jul 10, 2007, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

Ok, I searched on about 3 terms I could think of and found no posts. Likely these threads are getting nuked.....

Before nuking this, at least read it. Afterall, Arenanet doesn't want to hear from us directly, they want us to post issues to fansites like this for the public to discuss. So I am doing exactly what Arenanet wants.

Good thing you're not paranoid.

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I can't possibly be the only person unhappy with the whole thought of effectively losing everything I've worked for when they move over to GW2. I mean, why should I continue gaining titles when so far, Anet says they will provide something, but nothing that can give an advantage in the game. Sure, I'm not as much of a title hound as some people are, nor do I collect greens, but why should I bust my backside trying to collect all of the elite skills in all three continents?

You should collect whatever you want because you want to collect it? Its a game and for some collecting titles is fun, others collect greens etc.
Besides, the Monument will allow you to get some benefit from your titles in GW2 which is quite generous of Anet, I'd say.

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And for that matter, I have bought enough extra character slots, ON TWO ACCOUNTS, to allow for 1 of each profession and 1 or 2 mules!!! Why should I continue progressing multiple characters through a game that will soon mean nothing?

Why? Ask yourself that question, not us, you're the one who apparently needs to hoard stuff so badly you need to pay real money just to store your game items

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Yes, the game engine could use some updates. But roll that into what is already there. Or at least come out with some sort of official word on why I should want to keep playing GW, and buy GW:EN. Which as of right now, until they clarify a lot of things to me, is a definite DO NOT BUY on my list.

Um...GW2 is a year or longer away and very, very little of it has been confirmed except some basics, all you are doing with this 'rant' is making a fool of yourself. All your stuff is usuable in the game you acquired it in, GW1, dont whine if its not usuable in GW2 which is a totally seperate game from GW1

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So come on people. NO flames. But voice your objection to losing everything that you have worked for so far in GW!

I havent lost anything and I wont lose anything and nor will you. Whats there to discuss?

Tahlia Tane · Jul 10, 2007, 01:23 PM // 13:23

Some people just don't get it.

Rocky Raccoon · Jul 10, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by Gimme Money Plzkthx

I completely agree with you, but GW2 is just going to be another game... so if you don't like it, don't buy it. Personally, I think it might as well be world of charrcraft, and I doubt the game, or more importantly the PvP, will be anything like the original GW. It really shouldn't even be part of the "guild wars" franchise IMO, because it will be so different in terms of grind and stuff... but whatever.

How can you make those assumptions on a game 2 years from release. We have had only a broad description of what it will encompass. I am going to wait before I make any judgments on GW2. I also will definitely be buying it and I will still have GW to play also, I will have lost nothing and gained a new addiction, win/win.

Mordakai · Jul 10, 2007, 01:41 PM // 13:41

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

1) You get to transfer titles and weapon(s).

Titles, yes.

Weapons, not sure. (unless this has been confirmed and I missed it)....

Cebe · Jul 10, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Titles, yes.

Weapons, not sure. (unless this has been confirmed and I missed it)....

I was always under the impression that titles were transferrable, names remained reserved for an unspecified period of time, and the titles unlocked various weapons and armor etc.. in GW:2 but weapons and amor etc.. from GW:1 can not be taken across. For one thing, how do we even know there will be such a thing as a "Marksmanship" attribute in GW:2... (example only)

Mordakai · Jul 10, 2007, 02:02 PM // 14:02

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I was always under the impression that titles were transferrable, names remained reserved for an unspecified period of time, and the titles unlocked various weapons and armor etc.. in GW:2 but weapons and amor etc.. from GW:1 can not be taken across. For one thing, how do we even know there will be such a thing as a "Marksmanship" attribute in GW:2... (example only)

IF weapons can be carried over (huge if); I'd think it would be skins only, not stats.

But I have no idea how that would work. I think the scenario of Titles unlocking new weapons in GW2 is much more likely.

Larqh · Jul 10, 2007, 02:10 PM // 14:10

It sounds like the OP wants another expansion and not a new game. You say you enjoy the game, but you keep referring to it as work. I'm assuming you had fun getting your titles. And perhaps, for you, that title represents the fun you had getting there.

But consider this, GW2 gives you the opportunity to get all new titles and enjoy having fun while reaching them.

I just got my Protector of Tyria title yesterday. I'm quite proud of it. And I had a blast getting there! But at the same time, I'm looking forward to reincarnating Larqh for GW2. A whole new world to conquer with new skills, armor and weapons! I'm really excited about it. ^_^

Nekretaal · Jul 10, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

I can't possibly be the only person unhappy with the whole thought of effectively losing everything I've worked for when they move over to GW2. !

Insofarasmuch as the development of a persistent character was part of the appeal of playing GW, you ought to quit GW. There arnt any new expansions coming after GWEN either. So, once you beat GWEN: you've seen all of the content and you've developed your character as much as you need to to beat all the content. Its almost time to move on.

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

why should I bust my backside trying to collect all of the elite skills in all three continents? !

If its not fun for you to do so, you shouldnt.

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

And for that matter, I have bought enough extra character slots, ON TWO ACCOUNTS, !

I bought a total of FOURTEEN extra slots on my accounts. Thats $140 of just character slots. I bought them at a time when Gaile was posting on forums about how they would bring us expansion content every 6 months or so. Basically I feel ripped off right now, as I bought them with different expectations than GW will deliver. No I wouldnt have bought so many slots if Gaile posted the informantion in the GW PC Gamer article months earlier, if anet told us how little additional content that the game would actually get. I expected Everquest, which, 10 years later, is still getting expansions every 9 months (and the line anet was feeding us for a long time), not the one-and done that anet gave us.

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

Why should I continue progressing multiple characters through a game that will soon mean nothing? !

You shouldnt. You should quit. I promise you that you will have a much more fun time playing other games (Sword of the New World releases today with most of the annouced features of GW2) than grinding frigging alliance battles.

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

Yes, the game engine could use some updates. But roll that into what is already there. !

I never understood this either. GW2 is mostly using the GW1 engine, and if stuff like persisntent world is possible with mods to the GW1 engine, why not let us play around with that. Players would love that.

We will see how different GW2 is than GW1. If its the same thing as GW1 with tweaked skill stats, then this point is especially valid.

But the "start over" people also have a valid point. It is fun to start over too.

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

Or at least come out with some sort of official word on why I should want to keep playing GW, and buy GW:EN. !

Well the official word on why to get GWEN is so that you get Hall of Monuments, including whatever bonuses that gets you. If it gets you a divine aura or something, thats something which will be really nice if you continue to play GW2. Its up to you, though, whether a few extra maps and the chance to earn something like a divine aura justify a $40 purchase.

The official word on why to keep playing GW, though, appears to be.... "dont." Anet has been trying to scare away its player base with bad updates all year.

Mordakai · Jul 10, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by Nekretaal

I bought a total of FOURTEEN extra slots on my accounts. Thats $140 of just character slots. I bought them at a time when Gaile was posting on forums about how they would bring us expansion content every 6 months or so. Basically I feel ripped off right now, as I bought them with different expectations than GW will deliver.

Just curious, but why? Why not add slots as you need them?

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Originally Posted by Nekretaal

You shouldnt. You should quit. I promise you that you will have a much more fun time playing other games (Sword of the New World releases today with most of the annouced features of GW2) than grinding frigging alliance battles.

Right, because that's all there is to do.

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Originally Posted by Nekretaal

I never understood this either. GW2 is mostly using the GW1 engine, and if stuff like persisntent world is possible with mods to the GW1 engine, why not let us play around with that. Players would love that.

I'm pretty sure that peristant worlds are not possible with the current engine. I could be wrong. In any case, one of the main reasons for Guild Wars 2 is because with all the Incriptions, collector items, heroes, etc, Guild Wars became to bloated. The developers felt Guild Wars needed a fresh start to implement their ideas.

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Originally Posted by Nekretaal

But the "start over" people also have a valid point. It is fun to start over too.

I know I'm looking forward to it!

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Originally Posted by Nekretaal

The official word on why to keep playing GW, though, appears to be.... "dont." Anet has been trying to scare away its player base with bad updates all year.

Well, I admit I'm not happy about Kurzick/Luxon skills. Very bad idea.

But GWEN looks fun even if you're not going to get GW2. Some more mini-games, hopefully some answers to old questions, and it sounds like it will have some fantastic locations!

TreeDude · Jul 10, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

This guy keeps comparing an expansion to WoW to GW2. GW has had 3 stand alone games than can be linked to 1 account and will now have 1 official expansion. All of these can be played with 1 character. You got what you wanted. Now it is time for a new game.

People played Everquest for years. No one complained when Everquest 2 came out and they couldn't transfer. Because it is a brand new game. Be happy that your achievements will get some recognition in GW2 through the HoM.

I knew from the very start that they were not going to stick to the 1 game every 6 months bit. Why? You can't run, jump, swim, or climb. There is only so much that can be done on the current engine. The amount of time and effort necessary to put those elements in the current engine is not worth it. It would take LONGER and cost more to do that than to create an entirely new game.

Gaidax · Jul 10, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by The Warmonger

And I'm sorry, but BC did not force you to "restart" anything in WoW. It did not render your lvl 60 completely worthless. IT was a simple continuation from 60 to the new max of 70. Nothing more, nothing less.

As a matter of fact it did, just as I explained... like completely... When everyone is level 70 and level 70 weapons and armor are like 30% more powerful than what was at 60 - your level 60 guy with extremely rare loot from the hardest bosses pre-xp becomes nothing more than a leveling bot when expansion is out.

Again - all you have left of your level 60 character is charater skin and name. And that is just an expansion, btw, not a new game with a completely redone engine.

No point in crying, imo.

WarKaster · Jul 10, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

so after going through 4 pages and actually reading most of it and realizing that its the same questions and answers, or point and counter point of every other I HATE GW2 thread that was on here I am still wondering why my original post of some one beating a dead horse was removed......

And to stay on topic
1) 2 years away calm down
2) They never said GW:EN would be the last content update. 2 years between games and no updates is just retarded for you people to think that.
3) Since when is it mandatory to have max level titles you people grind because you want to not because you have to. And don't give me the Faction Skills BS you got along fine with out it before youll get along fine with out it now.
4) No one can say with certainty what they can and can't do with the current engine unless your looking at the code used to develop it. and last time i check only the devs have that.
5) I like pie.

Baba_Beast · Jul 10, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

every online game is like that. after a while, they create another game which is better and everyone move to this game. some examples:

diablo1-diablo2 (hardly anyone still play diablo1)
cs 1.5-cs1.6 (there's 10 server in 1.5 and 10 000 in 1.6)

even if they didnt create guild wars2, after a while, the game is just too old, people leave it and the game die slowly.

Mordakai · Jul 10, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Warmonger - did you really compare Burning Crusade to Guild Wars 2?

That's comparing apples to Mercedes. Burning Crusade = GWEN. They are both expansions.

When Blizzard makes WoW 2, then we'll talk.

Aera Lure · Jul 10, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

All MMOs end and start over. Nothing new here, though I do think Anet announced GW2 too soon relative to also the end of GW. Far too long an implied gap between the end of GW chapters and potential GW2 release date.

twicky_kid · Jul 10, 2007, 04:26 PM // 16:26

GW has a lot of problems and has been considered "broken" by a lot of players for a long time. GW2 is giving us hope so I dought you are going to find too much negative feedback. The alpha and beta are not here so most of it in the imagination.

From most material I've read it looks like GW2 will fix much of the infrastructure of GW that made the game unbarable for some players (example separating pvp and pve).

The stuff xfering over to GW2 from GW is a sales gimmick. Knowing Anet they are not going to give an unfair advantage to a vet compaired to a new player that has never played either game.

Mjhammerman · Jul 10, 2007, 08:30 PM // 20:30

First thing, its 2 years away. 2 YEARS!!! thats a good while in the future. This GW is doing well, and those who wish to can still play it, still can . New game, new oppertunities. It will just not be payed as much attention if you wish to have your old characters. No one says you have to switch over. And Anet isnt leaving you in the dust, you fully have the ability to come with on GW2. New starts are never bad, its a clean slate, we will all be starting off at the same point. NO one will be more superior than the person next to you. Uber l33t people that rub it in your face that you are worse than them and you will never be as good. I see this as just something inticable, something great and new and alot of people are eagerly awaiting its arrival, me included. Remember no one is forcing you to go with GW2, but i dear say that it might get awful lonely only being left with that l33t guys that stay on the principal that they worked so hard to get to where they are. You play a game for fun, so have your fun and stop acting like your getting fired from you job.