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Dark-NighT · Jul 18, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Since you have the code for them, you can use it anywhere.

Anyway to the OP, What are you bitching about? if you dont like the weapons then dont buy the pre release, simple as that.

I find it most usefull as i can now make as many swords as i want, which is pretty cool considering most of my chars have 2 hero warriors, and a third on the way, im always in the need of swords, staves and bows since you prettymuch have 20 heroes, its gonna suck finding equipment for all of them and so the pre release package is an awesome deal for what 5 dollars?

zwei2stein · Jul 18, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

People who bash "icy" and "fiery" mods are the same people who use Sundering (by the way, by dealing elemental damage, you bypass a warriors +20 armor vs physical damage, thus an elemental weapon is equivalent to a 100/20 Sundering weapon when used against a warrior).

People who mindlessly bash sundering are the sam... err.

Icy and Fiery is just fine, but problems is that is is specialized mod:
* Either very specific for build (conjure stuff, shivers ...)
* Specialized for enemy type or area: Icy will only make trouble vs ice bad mosters, and equals 100/-30 sundering vs ranger mosnters. ouch. since rangers appear as much as warriors in pve, id rather have NO sundering mod at all than any elemental mod. Not mentioning that warrior is only one of ten classes that you can meet.

Now, elemental mods are usefull, if you can swap them in midcombat and if you have one for exach prefix (along with other prefixes).

Since preorder items end up at heroes, were talking hero usage, where weapon is best if is most generic because when working with heroes, usually last thing you want to do is to micromanage their equiped. weapons. Thus you give them Physical damage weapons with either no prefix or with something like zealous/furious/sundering/vampiric.

Besides, while conjure sounds cool, i would much rather have hero that can assist with, i.e. triggering mark of pain.

redant751 · Jul 18, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Yes, More weapons for my heros.(not to mention all the new heros).

redant751 · Jul 18, 2007, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Now if only i could mod my G.O.T.Y. Weapons too. (come on A-Net Please)...

Mordakai · Jul 18, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Why do people always dis on Free items?

Ever hear the phrase "Never look a gift horse in the mouth?"

Besides, most gamers will be satisfied just getting the head start "sneak peak."

(also, this should be moved to the Eye of the North forum)

bwillcox · Jul 18, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Navaros

Sure, why not. People are paying good money for them.

However, many people are expecting something better than perfect max greens. Make them fully moddable. The former pre-release items should be made fully moddable, and so should these. Absolutely no reason to not do that.

I fail to see why anyone would wanna pay real-life money for weapons that are less moddable than in-game collector weapons are.

I will likely buy the prerelease bonus pack for access to the Sneak Peek Weekend. The weapons are simply small perks to me that can be handy for new characters or heroes I don't want to spend time or gold on getting better weapons for. That's what I use my current /bonus items for. These will just be some more to choose from.

GloryFox · Jul 18, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57

How sad nothing for the Assassin Dervish or Paragon. Every other class gets an item but these three.

typical...

/sigh

Dark-NighT · Jul 18, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Hmm i know what we need, we need a new command for the bonus items because if you type /bonus now we get half an inventory full with stuff while we actually need one or 2 weapons for a newly unlocked hero, SO i would like to see that if you type /bonus + item name that you would only get that item, it would just be so much better and functional as i woudnt have to spend another minute to delete all the stuff, not that i am in a hurry at all while playing, but it gets annoying when following the NF story and have to create new weapons because the stock items of a new hero just suck big time.Ofcourse i can hear some one saying, create the items once and keep them in your inventory, ehm yeah nice but i dont want to have a full inventory when its getting busy and a gold or green item drop and you face a certain party wipe, you just want to be able to pick that up and move along.

Lonesamurai · Jul 18, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

How sad nothing for the Assassin Dervish or Paragon. Every other class gets an item but these three.

typical...

/sigh

so the [wiki]Dragon Fangs[/wiki], [wiki]Fiery Sunspear Of Shelter[/wiki] and [wiki]Icy Soulbreaker Of Enchanting[/wiki] aren't enough?

GloryFox · Jul 18, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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posted by Lonesamurai
so the Dragon Fangs, Fiery Sunspear Of Shelter and Icy Soulbreaker Of Enchanting aren't enough?

Well obviously the preorder items and GOTY items from other Previous GW products were not enough because they added new preorder items for those classes. How about the coke, Korean, and Japan preorder items? Were those enough? Obviously not and for the same reasons.

So why not Assassin Dervish and Paragon items. Besides people with those classes who might not have pre order items (purchased later) are left out.

Sarevok Thordin · Jul 18, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

Well obviously the preorder items and GOTY items from other Previous GW products were not enough because they added new preorder items for those classes. How about the coke, Korean, and Japan preorder items? Were those enough? Obviously not and for the same reasons.

So why not Assassin Dervish and Paragon items. Besides people with those classes who might not have pre order items (purchased later) are left out.

The weapons supplied are mainly for CORE classes so that EVERYONE has a chance to benefit from them, no matter what campaigns they own/don't own.

GloryFox · Jul 18, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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posted by Sarevok Thordin
The weapons supplied are mainly for CORE classes so that EVERYONE has a chance to benefit from them, no matter what campaigns they own/don't own.

Thats why the Hourglass staff for the Ritualists is being offered as well? LOL, Last I noticed a Ritualist is not a CORE class thus destroying your point. The bonus item Hourglass staff will make a nice addition for my Razah and Ritualist non CORE classes.

There is no reason to leave these three fine classes out of the pre order bonus items for GWEN.

BTW: Not everyone will benefit only non Assassins Paragons and Dervishes will benefit so where are you getting this EVERYONE in CAPs from?

Sarevok Thordin · Jul 18, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

Thats why the Hourglass staff for the Ritualists is being offered as well? LOL, Last I noticed a Ritualist is not a CORE class thus destroying your point. The bonus item Hourglass staff will make a nice addition for my Razah and Ritualist non CORE classes.

There is no reason to leave these three fine classes out of the pre order bonus items for GWEN.

BTW: Not everyone will benefit only non Assassins Paragons and Dervishes will benefit so where are you getting this EVERYONE in CAPs from?

The EVERYONE is there because EVERYONE has the CORE classes.

The Ritualist is just lucky it uses a staff, thus they just threw a new variation on it. Less work than making a whole new staff.

pingu666 · Jul 18, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

How sad nothing for the Assassin Dervish or Paragon. Every other class gets an item but these three.

typical...

/sigh

apart from the factions and nightfall pre realease thingy

wish we could buy the weaponsets on the online store tho

GloryFox · Jul 18, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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posted by Sarevok Thordin
The EVERYONE is there because EVERYONE has the CORE classes.

The Ritualist is just lucky it uses a staff, thus they just threw a new variation on it. Less work than making a whole new staff.

Sorry you fail again... GW:EN is being marketed as an extension for all 3 chapters making all 10 classes CORE for GW:EN. Unlike previous chapters this expansion includes something for everyone not just the sinister six. So by bypassing the 3 classes that are CORE for GW:EN you alienate 3 alternate classes people do play. The Paradigm for CORE has changed with the release of expansions rather than chapters. With expansions there is no more sinister six CORE.

So whats the deal with ignoring the Assassin Dervish and Paragon ANET? Honestly your marketing manager needs to play the game.

MisterB · Jul 18, 2007, 11:37 PM // 23:37

If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's really not ANet's fault if you don't have bonus items for assassin, dervish, or paragon; it's yours for not getting the previous pre-orders. And if you do have those bonus items, I can't understand your complaint.

On behalf of my 10 new heroes, ANet, I thank you. I can't wait to see the new weapons.

liner · Jul 18, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

S The Paradigm for CORE has changed with the release of expansions rather than chapters. With expansions there is no more sinister six CORE.

Eh, no.
There are no new professions, we still have the 6 + 2 + 2 setup.

That said, Its a shame the paragon along with others is left out.

Series · Jul 18, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

Sorry you fail again... GW:EN is being marketed as an extension for all 3 chapters making all 10 classes CORE for GW:EN. Unlike previous chapters this expansion includes something for everyone not just the sinister six. So by bypassing the 3 classes that are CORE for GW:EN you alienate 3 alternate classes people do play. The Paradigm for CORE has changed with the release of expansions rather than chapters. With expansions there is no more sinister six CORE.

So whats the deal with ignoring the Assassin Dervish and Paragon ANET? Honestly your marketing manager needs to play the game.

100% true.

12characters

drago34 · Jul 19, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Once again people are bitching about the littlest things. You get what you get with the preorder, get the hell over it.

Enix · Jul 19, 2007, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Ya, both the bow AND the staff will be great for heros. Although, I would prefer a +1 or 20% ench on the staff, as well as a +5^50 insc.