Curse

lacasner · Aug 13, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Its kind of long to explain. If you had a certain item you could find a collector of it easily. You could basically trade off of your friends list and contacts. Even now I know exactly who to go to say if I wanted a quick sale on a r7 item. When you sit in Lions Arch all day you kind of get to know the other traders. Thus allowing friendships to develop. The big traders usually have guru accounts so you know each other on guru too. As well as traders you get to know the item collectors and what they collect.

See, now I fully respect your opinion and how you accumulated your wealth..but really in my perspective it somewhat devalues my opinion for really rich people and brings them closer to lvl's of farmers who farm UW... It's basically just having connections and doesn't have much more skill at all imo. Just out of my observations of what you said though.

Arlan · Aug 13, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

It is possible that trading something (abnormally large amount of gold/e/armbraces/whatever) may trigger the ANET rule infraction software - even if what you 'buy/sell' came from a player.
If the gold or items origionally prove to come from 'botting' or RL/eBay purchase and you are on the reciving end of a trade maybe two or three trades down the line - your account may be banned 'while they investigate'.

As an earlier post says:
If an offer seems 'too good to be true' then it probably is.

Take it from someone who spent 3 weeks onto ANET support argueing to get my account reinstated because I apparantly had some sort of connection to bott farming - purchased an item they said origionally came from bott farming.
Selling something worth ,say 10k - for say 100k may do the same if it can be proved that you've been paid with 'bott farmed/ebay' gold.

The Herbalizer · Aug 13, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by lacasner

See, now I fully respect your opinion and how you accumulated your wealth..but really in my perspective it somewhat devalues my opinion for really rich people and brings them closer to lvl's of farmers who farm UW... It's basically just having connections and doesn't have much more skill at all imo. Just out of my observations of what you said though.

I have heard the term newb farming thrown around in reference to power trading.

I guess it is a type of farming.

There is skill to it. Well certain techniques you should use. Like everything there are good and bad power traders.

I have always said connections are very very important in trading and in real life.

I gave farming a go but all those interrupts sure were not doing my heart any good lol.

I prefer trading, its much more relaxed. You can sit in LA with a group of friends chatting and showing each other items. Chat to your guild and friends. Use ts or vent. Browse the net etc. For me it was a lot more interesting than farming and alot less stressful.

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Anyway everyone get on over to the other threads. Crazy shizzle is going down. Screenshots of 1750 armbraces which are legit apparently. Meant to be worth $55,000!!!!!!!!!!!! Crazyness

I havnt been this excited over GW in a long while.

AlienFromBeyond · Aug 13, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

How is this getting you excited? That just seems... odd.

The Herbalizer · Aug 13, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond

How is this getting you excited? That just seems... odd.

Because rarely something remotely interesting happens regarding the Guild Wars economy.

Anet pride themselves on being unhackable and all that other stuff.

There are screens of people with $55,000 worth of armbraces. Thats alot of money.

Something interesting is happening.

As interesting things rarely occur regarding the Guild Wars economy that excited me. Not in a sexual way but in a wow this is really interesting kind of way.

Just like all those trade resets where people were running round grabbing ecto for 250 gold each. Or that time when superior vigors dropped in price for no reason and everyone bought dozens of them. Or when ettins in beetleton dropped only gold runes. Or when the ettins dropped tons of superior vigors and you could sell for a load. People with insane amounts of gold obtained god knows how is pretty damn interesting. Especially since there are like 3 + other threads on it too.

People can find computer games exciting too you know.

selber · Aug 13, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Anet pride themselves on being unhackable and all that other stuff.

No serious company would ever claim that, ever. And it's probably a bug ingame, not a problem with the DB - if it's not a Hoax at all.

The Herbalizer · Aug 13, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by selber

No serious company would ever claim that, ever. And it's probably a bug ingame, not a problem with the DB - if it's not a Hoax at all.

I dont know much about computers but I see people saying hacking is not possible as all the information for gw is kept on anets servers or something. Maybe I worded the initial post wrong as its late and I am trying to watch a movie. But whenever something weird happens and someone posts, "hax", soon after a load of people say how hacking gw is not possible.

I personally lean towards dupe, bug or some way of making a few armbraces appear as many.

edit: i have had guildies see 80 million worth or armbraces owned by someone in alliance and there is another thread with a screenshot of someone seeing 1750 armbraces which apparently is worth $55,000

Zorgy · Aug 13, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53

"Because rarely something remotely interesting happens regarding the Guild Wars economy." LOL

"Something interesting is happening." LOLOLOLOLOL

The Herbalizer is a funny guy LOLOLOLOL, I know him from reputation as ONE of THE BIGGEST RARE ITEMS COLLECTOR

What you are saying is astonishing me, but dont surprise me : The Herbalizer is not a PLAYER but a BUISENESS MAN.

There is ONE ONLY GOD in the WHOLE universe = $ or € or £....

I am sure that when The Herbalizer went to VEGAS (called sin city

)his mom took a picture of him in front of the billion $ notes stack.....

Your next step should be to write a book (you will become billionaire LOL) how to become a real buiseness man while playing a little bit.....only a little bit.....

"...I prefer trading, its much more relaxed. You can sit in LA with a group of friends chatting and showing each other items. Chat to your guild and friends. Use ts or vent. Browse the net etc. For me it was a lot more interesting than farming and alot less stressful."

In fact you almost never play LOL

Zorgy · Aug 13, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

"Because rarely something remotely interesting happens regarding the Guild Wars economy." LOL

"Something interesting is happening." LOLOLOLOLOL

The Herbalizer is a funny guy LOLOLOLOL, I know him from reputation as ONE of THE BIGGEST RARE ITEMS COLLECTOR

What you are saying is astonishing me, but dont surprise me : The Herbalizer is not a PLAYER but a BUISENESS MAN.

There is ONE ONLY GOD in the WHOLE universe = $ or € or £....

I am sure that when The Herbalizer went to VEGAS (called sin city

)his mom took a picture of him in front of the billion $ notes stack.....

Your next step should be to write a book (you will become billionaire LOL) how to become a real buiseness man while playing a little bit.....only a little bit.....

"...I prefer trading, its much more relaxed. You can sit in LA with a group of friends chatting and showing each other items. Chat to your guild and friends. Use ts or vent. Browse the net etc. For me it was a lot more interesting than farming and alot less stressful."

In fact you almost never play LOL

Zorgy · Aug 13, 2007, 02:18 AM // 02:18

PS/ I am playing GW since may 2005 & the only stuff I ever bought were CC (candy cane). I give items or sell them 50% off the market price to guildies

Dear The Herbalizer I have some very rare items.......but I will not give them to you LOL If you are interested just PM me IG. My name is "Black Hole" but watch out I swallow all the ones who get too near from me LOLOLOLOLOLOL

manitoba1073 · Aug 13, 2007, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Um Herb, traders werent the only ones to make massive amounts of money before. When I started Soloing the beginning of june 05 I was pulling in an average of 10 or so ectos in 15-20 mins per farming run in UW. I accumulated close to 40 mill before Loot scalling hit prices. Yes I know its an abberation. but saying power tradeers were the only ones up there is off a tad. As I know others that pulled in the same as me farming.

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 13, 2007, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by timebandit

You guyz might want to be aware of something very disturbing going on:

It seems that some player(s) found a way to accumulated massive amounts of wealth and want to invest them in rare mini pets...

Here are two links to threads making this problem public:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10186091

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10186087

I was shocked!

All i ever got are those darn Elixirs of Valor lol and those guy(z) have like 1000 Armbraces ?? maybe even more ??

Gaile, Andrew, Anet Devs... do something and plz let us know.

Thanks for your time,
Timebandit

Edit: Gale and others were quicker then me lol ... thanks for the update.

wow that is soooo fricken nuts!!!

Think its just being used on armbraces? or other highend stuff? lol

hmmm this sounds like a job for scooby doo!!!!!

GOGOGOGOG MYSTERY MACHINE!

The Herbalizer · Aug 13, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

Um Herb, traders werent the only ones to make massive amounts of money before. When I started Soloing the beginning of june 05 I was pulling in an average of 10 or so ectos in 15-20 mins per farming run in UW. I accumulated close to 40 mill before Loot scalling hit prices. Yes I know its an abberation. but saying power tradeers were the only ones up there is off a tad. As I know others that pulled in the same as me farming.

yah i kind of overlooked that. monk killah made an incredible amount from uw solo but i always thought the numbers who did were small. maybe i was wrong. learn something new every day.

even then it doesnt account for where all the armbraces and ecto are appearing from.

manitoba1073 · Aug 13, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

yah i kind of overlooked that. monk killah made an incredible amount from uw solo but i always thought the numbers who did were small. maybe i was wrong. learn something new every day.

even then it doesnt account for where all the armbraces and ecto are appearing from.

HAHA I know that name. Ya we did make a killing back then. There was about 10 of us originally in the beginning of june. It wasnt many.

Maybe heres how it is happing look down the page to the number of d/l's
http://www.zerogamers.com/downloads/...-Dupe-Bot.html

46,000 downloads lol

edit do not attempt to d/l the said item as its prolly a trojan and im just showing the numbers lol

The Herbalizer · Aug 13, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

HAHA I know that name. Ya we did make a killing back then. There was about 10 of us originally in the beginning of june. It wasnt many.

Maybe heres how it is happing look down the page to the number of d/l's

46,000 downloads lol

he is old school which is ftw. i remember him saying it was so easy to farm there you could go make a sandwitch while monking there. i was really sad as i missed all that fun and was too much of a newb to understand 55 monking. i made one around that time and deleted it for some reason most prob because i couldnt do it lol =( rune price then ftl.

is that link safe btw? i can defo. see someone dling whatever it is and saying on here how he got hacked which would be kinda funny.

edit: omfg 45,000 dl today alone.

Guardian of the Light · Aug 13, 2007, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Hmm I wonder if a mini-pet trader would help the situation (it would at least cap the price at 100K).

Zorgy · Aug 13, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

"...yah i kind of overlooked that...." You make me laugh so much Sir The Herbalizer......you are the ONE !!!!!

For newcomers note that in 2005 Anet made HUGE MISTAKES resseting prices.....and some players like The Herbalizer for instance

& others made huge profits (within few minutes.... the time for Anet to react lol).... Anet was E V E N obliged in certain case to MAKE A SPECIAL UPDATE in order to amend the records of the players who had made huge profits

Unfortunately I was not IG at the right moment LOLOLOL

Martin Alvito · Aug 13, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Hmm I wonder if a mini-pet trader would help the situation (it would at least cap the price at 100K).

This would be an unmitigated disaster, the equivalent of releasing millions of highly rare minipets into the economy. ANet clearly wants there to be some content out there that keeps the hardcore, goal-oriented PvE players coming back.

Martin Alvito · Aug 13, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

The communist trader (everything was really really cheap but you couldn't actually BUY anything) wasn't a pretty incident. Still, it was better than the alternative, what with the way GW jacked up the code for the traders such that we had rampant inflation for the two preceding months.

My all-time favorite glitch was not nearly as profitable as that one was for some people (or as profitable as solo HM Urgoz was for me before someone let that cat out of the bag). I particularly liked the 24 hours when monsters killed by NPCs or other monsters dropped items. (Even you would drop items when you died. It was hilarious.) Spent several hours finding ways to lure monsters onto other monsters and help speed things along across a ton of zones. Made about 100k. Good times.

vaxmor · Aug 13, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

This would be an unmitigated disaster, the equivalent of releasing millions of highly rare minipets into the economy. ANet clearly wants there to be some content out there that keeps the hardcore, goal-oriented PvE players coming back.

whats so disastrous about giving people the chance to have a baby panda follow them around?