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Old Aug 13, 2007, 06:45 AM // 06:45   #21
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you can laugh at my build in fact i laught at it because you wont believe how good it is
Love it already mate! Hehehe sounds like good fun.

Some crazy builds out there are huge fun even if they might be not very effective and the other way round... very effective builds can be horrible boring (eg. bonder, biper, obsidian tank). Go out there and have fun!

On the other side it is different if I join a cookie cutter pug. I usually just use the standard FotM build. No problem with that.

And hey, pinging your build is not some bad thing ... every good group needs to know what the others are running and you might want to adjust your build to the team a bit. No biggie is it? If they pull a "little dictator" on you just leave 'em behind

Thanks for your time,
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 07:21 AM // 07:21   #22
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OOshadeOO: core of that build is similar to core of one uw solo build, i personally would ditch those spirits (at least pain) and give axe mastery some love. there is so much adrenaline not used ...

Evilsod: I hear ya, echo-nuking is evil. seriously.

B/P: yes, it works. it works pretty much everywhere. especially if you get dedicated priplter spammer rt, you see numbers that ele nukers can dream of and only ss reaches.

OP: that pug was destined to fail. dont worry of not being accepted in souch groups (ether prism... huh), BUT mark of rogdrot is decent spell for any fire nuker ... as ar as archane echo goes, it gives you ability to use glyph of sac on seccond meteor shower. Its not critical, i myself would not use MS at all and rather spam SF.

Besides, FoW can be done with 6 heroes just fine, all they need are good builds. you dont even need tank.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18   #23
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Take Heros. Me and 1 other friend took heros and did 'Restore the Temple' in record time (i think it was <45mins).
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46   #24
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Now I know there was a thread recently on the elitist state of the FoW, but what I experienced today just angered me to my core. I joined a 5 man group with my ele, and was asked to ping my build (a regular occurance which I HATE), and to my disgust was told I was a noob, and my build was not good enough. The suggested build by these self professed experts, included Mark Of Rodgort, Arcane Echo and Ether Prism, which is pathetic.

I shouted at them before I got booted, and I know this build works because I've been using it for ages and it's never failed me. With a good 5 man team the forge can be cleared quickly and with ease. This is my setup:

- Fire Magic: 16
- Energy Storage: 10
- Inspiration Magic: 9

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- Liquid Flame
- Meteor Shower
- Incendiary Bonds
- Glyph of Renewal
- Glyph of Lesser Energy
- Flame Djinns Haste
- Mantra of Resolve (or Ele res)
- Fire Attunement (or rez)

I seriously can't be bothered trying to do the FoW anymore, as people like the aforementioned just ruin the fun. Roll on GWEN when I can finally get back to some good old PUG questing and enjoy the buzz of a new chapter.
The team you're talking about was my group yesterday, First of all from my point of view on your build I'd say isn't bad at all however there are some skills that can be replaced with better ones Flame djinns haste you don't really need it if you want to hit enemies up close just use [skill]inferno[/skill] I don't see whats the problem with arcane echo aswell and it wasn't mark of rodgort what they wanted you to use but rodgort's invocation. That's all I have to say.

- Ganni

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Old Aug 13, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36   #25
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ive only chest run in fow, but was pondering taking my mesmer there as ive heard there pretty handy in fow

any must have skills for a mesmer?
Must have? Well, not really "must", but a few that work really well for me down there are Hex Eater Vortex, Shatter Hex, Inspired Hex, Backfire, Guilt, Power Drain, something else and a rez.

The key here is to have a good aggroing tank... he'll have the crap hexed out of him so you can use HeV and SH to turn him into an armor ignoring bomb.

Max Domination (16), FC around 8 + 1, rest in Inspiration.

Drawback... you don't do a lot directly against melee foes, but the rest of the group can pick you up there. Plus it's common to grab Empathy with Inspired Hex... use it if you do.
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #26
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i like your build myself it would go perfect with my build for fow. which for one mine doesnt go too well with those sf eles out there so i have to change it to work with them
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 08:06 PM // 20:06   #27
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How do you come up with the energy to run this?



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i love being inventive with my builds
i find vanquishing boring(wow) so i make it fun
i use warrior to vanquish and after a few areas vanquished in tyria i realized that there is alot of melee hate and tanking is just boring
my answer
w/rt
12 communing
12 channeling
r10 sunspear
i use these skills:
vampirism,pain,bloodsong,summon spirits,offering of spirit,a-rage(well used to before update), cyclone axe,splinter waep (not vanquished after update so duno how ill change these)

you can laugh at my build in fact i laught at it because you wont believe how good it is
so main point inventive=good(to a extent)

i have used this build many times and its good the way i use it
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27   #28
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How do you come up with the energy to run this?
[skill]offering of spirit[/skill] and likely not a lot of spamming.

It's so nice to be a ranger main. I ping my build and nobody knows what to say so i've never gotten a lick of bs for it.
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