Curse

Martin Alvito · Aug 13, 2007, 06:42 AM // 06:42

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

There's a good chance none of this [at all] is real. I find it amusing how much you people are flipping.

The screenies that the original discussion stems from were posted by multiple players with good reps on this site. Unquestionably, something is up.

Precisely what is up is debatable, but there's way way way way too many armbraces on the market right now. That's not a good thing. If the proposed dupe method is accurate (and the posited method does sound like it would work), there's cause for concern.

Drop of Fear · Aug 13, 2007, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by holababe

Yeah, but then they'd trade their armbraces for tormented weapons and sell them off.

so what. max they can dupe is 7 pieces per trade. they wont be able to buy anything rare like that

korcan · Aug 13, 2007, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Originally Posted by Kyp Jade

to be fair, the worst that will happen is torment weapons will become worthless...

(shiny, but worthless)

and life will go on otherwise

(and hopefully I can get some shinies myself)

QFT kinda.

hardcore doa farmers and the super high-end traders would only be the ones effected to any significant extent.

as it is, doa is already on life support, if this glitch is in fact true, it would be a dead zone.

the people that farm gems or armbraces that did it legitimately might be turned off enough to actually quit the game.

undeadgun · Aug 13, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47

for Gaile, i have send u guys 2 names that i know of bought or want to buy the rare pets with rideculas amount of armbraces, i hope i get reply soon, and i am here ty for looking after us.

Shadow · Aug 13, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

Mod edit....reference to deleted

Interesting.. I wonder how wide-spread it is? And if these people that do dupe will be banned and if not what kind of action will be taken against them..=s

narco · Aug 13, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

just some maths:

1750 ambraces of truth = 26.250 titans gems
for example: u make a 3-mens run (HM) with 5 leechers(can be 5 accounts of only own person), at end u have 2 gems per character:

8 characters*2 =16 gems + around 4-5gems drooped during mission = 20 gems

so 26250 /20 = 1312 runs in foundry with success.

a run take about 50 minutes for best players, 1h30 about normal time:

it result a total of 1312 hours minimum on foundry ( with 8 mens run who give all gems to only one guys ) , it will take a total of 54 complete days (minimum), for having enough "titans" gems. Now u must have others three types of gems.

Realistic for u ? for me absolutly not . Or there is a guild who farm again and again for buying only one pet for only one members, Impossible.

Ps: sorry for people who hate maths

dargon · Aug 13, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Assuming it is an exploit, no matter how it's carried out, when ANet figures out how it's working I'm pretty sure they'll be able to track down who did what when and where. Remember guys, GW runs off multiple rather large and very complex databases, changes to the data stored within are most definitely logged. So, that means that deleting 1750 AoTs, etc is going to show up in a log someplace. As will the sudden appearance of 1750 AoTs. Whomever decided to exploit a bug of what could potentially be HUGE magnitude, will find themselves with a permaban. This is no different than the exploit that appeared on June 15, 2005 which allowed players to farm XP from the doppleganger, several people lost their accounts over that one, I would expect to see no different a punishment here should there actually be an exploit being used.

As for Hlaford, if you're not just yanking our chain about how this works, you really should be reporting it directly to ANet, infact you should have done so the moment you learned of the process, you stated that you would do such when you agreed to the Rules of Conduct

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19. You will not exploit any bug in Guild Wars and you will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug (bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits) either directly or through public posting, to any other user of Guild Wars. Bugs should be promptly reported via "Ask a Question" at http://support.guildwars.com.

Bryant Again · Aug 13, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

There's a good chance none of this [at all] is real. I find it amusing how much you people are flipping.

I'd like to believe that none of this is true, but it's already been confirmed by trustworthy board members that yes, people are selling numerous stacks of armbraces.

What I pray is true is that it's only an exploit in DoA - not some duping exploit. If it's the latter, then ANet's going to feel incredibly, dreadfully shitty...All those efforts and hours into banning bots and THIS gets under their noses. All that hard work, all for naught.

acidic · Aug 13, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51

this works, confirmed.

redd66 · Aug 13, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

These things have polluted the economy and been laundered so much in the last couple weeks that it is impossible to correct without the innocent being hit as well. Plus the guilty have multiple accounts and spread the winnings around. The pet market is ruined for anyone that did not partake in this glitch because there is a new super class of wealthy that are sitting on hundreds of stacks of ectos and millions in gold not to mention the rarest pets and weapons in the game. If you did not rake it in over the past 2 weeks you are forever shut out of getting these items down the road.

So the only thing they can do is roll back 1 month to be fair, then look and see who has stacks of armbraces. Those are the guilty ones. A roll back only costs the honest people some time. That is a small price to pay than to have the economy ruined by literally billions of gold and items having been acquired this way. If they don't roll back, the people who made out like bandits keep everything and average players can forget about ever owning some of these items. A new super class of rich has been created.

And this does affect even the little player because so many braces have been created and laundered into gold and ectos through trades that there is now the multiplier affect that will drive inflation. In addition, there are some seriously valuable accounts that can wholesale gold and ectos to the gold merchants for real world money. I am talking about accounts worth many 10's of thousands of dollars. This in turn floods the market for everyone through the gold sellers and we get even more inflation. This hurts everyone. The gold sellers are going benefit here, so if anet leaves the new money in place, it only helps the gold sellers. Players will find gold cheaper and have more need for it since prices will be going up for everything. Increased demand, increased supply, means very happy gold resellers.

A rollback hurts no one. Everyone is no better or no worse than they were before. All we lose is some playing time. My finances would be a lot worse off with a 30 day rollback, but in my opinion, it is the only option to get rid of this disasterous inflation and wealth creation that just smacked us in the face. Without a rollback, the economy is completely ruined, the average player is hosed, the new super wealthy keep everything, and the bot farmers/gold sellers ultimately benefit. Therefore, I will go out on a limb and say Anet bans a couple of storage accounts as a meanlingless gesture, "fixes" the glitch, and this was the beginning of end of GW being a game with items as goals to achieve because you will never ever be able to afford them again. The end.

Martin Alvito · Aug 13, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

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Originally Posted by acidic

this works, confirmed.

/sigh

Here's hoping they can close it down quickly tonight.

Shadow · Aug 13, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'd like to believe that none of this is true, but it's already been confirmed by trustworthy board members that yes, people are selling numerous stacks of armbraces.

What I pray isn't true is that it's only an exploit in DoA - not some duping exploit. If it's the latter, then ANet's going to feel incredibly, dreadfully shitty...All those efforts and hours into banning bots and THIS gets under their noses. All that hard work, all for naught.

Isn't? You'd want them to feel dreadfully shitty?;-;

Zeek Aran · Aug 13, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by acidic

this works, confirmed.

Well... damn...

*embarrassedly goes back to lurking threads and not posting*

undeadgun · Aug 13, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

...All those efforts and hours into banning bots and THIS gets under their noses. All that hard work, all for naught.

well said there

Shadow · Aug 13, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

Well... damn...

*embarrassedly goes back to lurking threads and not posting*

It's natural to be suspicious of outrageous claims, fret not. *pat pat*

Drop of Fear · Aug 13, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57

a month rollback is completely not deserving even a thought.

accepting the fact that armbraces are the only things to be duped, the easy solution would be: customize armbrace, give more rare minipets with new competitions.

this would affect the dupers an the legit owners of rare minipets (tho new ways to get asian minis are coming soonish in europe)

fenix · Aug 13, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'd like to believe that none of this is true, but it's already been confirmed by trustworthy board members that yes, people are selling numerous stacks of armbraces.

What I pray is true is that it's only an exploit in DoA - not some duping exploit. If it's the latter, then ANet's going to feel incredibly, dreadfully shitty...All those efforts and hours into banning bots and THIS gets under their noses. All that hard work, all for naught.

Unfortunately...it IS a duping exploit. I found out how it's done, and it's not cool. This is why there are so many Armbraces, it's fast, easy, and VERY easily accessible for people...(ie new characters)

arcanemacabre · Aug 13, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57

Yeah, well, now that it's confirmed.... now I'm really concerned.

Just gonna sit back and see how Anet plans to fix this mess.

Martin Alvito · Aug 13, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57

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Originally Posted by redd66

A rollback hurts no one. Everyone is no better or no worse than they were before. All we lose is some playing time.

Sort of depends on what you did in the last 30 days. It wouldn't bother me much. I'd have to retrade for an item over there in the avatar; that's about it. Been out of town, haven't been able to play this month.

Someone that ground out all 3 Vanquisher titles, by contrast, might be a bit upset if you roll them back.

I don't see a rollback as a viable option. The cost is just too high for most players to swallow.

oles · Aug 13, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57

I'll surrender my tormented bow but I want my 160ectos back.

I also want my 2.5mil Kurzick faction doubled, since it's been devalued by a factor of 2 with a recent update.

That's about 50-70 hours of farming wasted, down the drain.
And A LOT MORE ab time, just like that, out of the window.

Seriously. This is unacceptable.