Curse

Archangel Avoca · Aug 13, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

I believe that a rollback would be unfair to the majority of the players that were not involved in this dupe.

If a rollback is done many players (including myself) would lose titles that take quite a few hours to attain. I don't think it would be fair to someone who earned Legendary Survivor to have it taken away, and then die before he/she reached it again. The last rollback was done before such titles exsisted, and for those who enjoy maxing titles I think it would have major implications on working on them again.

I don't have any good solutions to offer, but I would hope that ANET would choose not to rollback (or at least let people keep the titles that they ahve worked for). I believe it would be better to have a few players upset rather than the entire community because of all the lost time playing a character.

Hlaford · Aug 13, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

I had bought a couple of armbraces to get the tormented items, and low and behold, my account is now banned. So apparently, if you even touched a duplicated item, you account was "perma-banned"

Bryant Again · Aug 13, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by Jason Xll

Hmm just saw Fenix ingame rofl...

I heard that they used mule accounts to test it, anyways.

IlikeGW · Aug 13, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Hlaford

I had bought a couple of armbraces to get the tormented items, and low and behold, my account is now banned. So apparently, if you even touched a duplicated item, you account was "perma-banned"

That's retarded. They might as well say people can't sell them anymore, because how can you buy one and know if it's duped or not.

joze · Aug 13, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

There are several pro's & con's about making a rollback.

Pro's

Easy solution, get rids of many of the duped Armbraces
Opportunity to ban the accounts that did the duping later - to prevent further use of exploiting from those people
People that might have lost their minipets (and other items) to the dupers can have them back

Con's

Makes everyone mad, considering during the last days alot of people have been spending hours on AFK'ing the Nine Rings, not to mention racing too
ALOT of people will loose their maxed titles - considering the new favour system that was integrated
All the items that were sold & bought will be lost - and returned to it's original owner (could be good and bad)

You could probably go on for ages with pro's & con's, but I think it's in the community's favour that A-net will not do a rollback. Think of GW:EN coming out in 2 weeks, nice PR for a company to roll back a couple of days just before a new game gets released? I think not.

/signed banpeople > rollback

Fates · Aug 13, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by rhythmstripp

I've been reading through these posts all morning.

I want to get the conversation back on track so I'm going to say that I don't think that minipets can be duped. The trick seemed to be you would reconnect while obtaining the armbrace to dupe it. You never receive a minipet like an armbrace so therefor the minis can't be duped. Can we get someone to tell us the status of the rare minis? Are the perm ban accounts with rare minis truly going to forever be the death of some of them? Poor lil guys! I was working my way to a rare mini...my dreams are smashed doh!

Have a cup of coffee and try reading again. The dupe was with trading and reconnects, nothing to do with ambraces in particular or in obtaining them.

against · Aug 13, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Everyone can just quit talking about a rollback. They are already issuing bans to accounts linked to the duped AoT. That seems to be their solution for the AoT. I'm just wondering when they can get a fix on reconnects that will allow legitimate players to reconnect without the villains being able to exploit it.

Hlaford · Aug 13, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Easy, they can stop trades in Explorable areas.

Nuj08 · Aug 13, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

I don't know if this has been already suggested but what about rolling those who sold their rare minis or weapons for an absurd amount of armbraces and permanently banning the duppers themselves? This way not everyone involved in this scandal has to go through a roll back per se.

Evilsod · Aug 13, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Guru is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing useless today...

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Maybe he was never banned :S

That would actually be worrying if they are missing people who did the dupe.

Hopefully Enko will be unbanned soon.

Could be. But the chances are the people that did this regularly played both sides of the trick at least once, so they should still be caught.

And yes it seems people that end up with the armbraces are getting banned too, friend had his storage account banned that had 4 most probably duplicated armbraces on it. We could be lucky and it basically means the duplicated armbraces are all trackable, along with everything else thats been duplicated, so we could end up with a mass deletion.

Nuj08 · Aug 13, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Oops double post is attributed to a wonderful lag spike.

In any event, I hope people don't jump to rash conclusions and instead they give ANET some time to sort out the mess. We are all upset evidently but we need to have some patience as this is just a game and see if anything materializes.

Hlaford · Aug 13, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

It was suggested, by yourself, in two posts, heh. I just wish my account was unbanned.

Evilsod · Aug 13, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Guru is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing useless today...

Quote:

Maybe he was never banned :S

That would actually be worrying if they are missing people who did the dupe.

Hopefully Enko will be unbanned soon.

Could be. But the chances are the people that did this regularly played both sides of the trick at least once, so they should still be caught.

And yes it seems people that end up with the armbraces are getting banned too, friend had his storage account banned that had 4 most probably duplicated armbraces on it. We could be lucky and it basically means the duplicated armbraces are all trackable, along with everything else thats been duplicated, so we could end up with a mass deletion.

Xenex Xclame · Aug 13, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Hlaford, you probably got banned because you knew about this because "a friend" of you did this.

God i love the "a friend" posts.

Nuj08 , read a few pages back, from what we know its not possible for Anet to do partial Roll back , that includes rolling back only for a few people.

Edit: Wow Evilsod , the lag your getting is bad :P managed to skip 5 minutes between double post, i know i know , its Guru , probably all the people reading about this thread.

Hlaford · Aug 13, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

I reported him. And I never received any items from him. Due to a fear that has come true. The banning of my account.

Evilsod · Aug 13, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Yeah its getting stupid... i can't load up advanced posting, it just spends ages loading and gets nowhere and it takes ages to decide its actually posted... so i have to press it a few more times

Evilsod · Aug 13, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Yeah its getting stupid... i can't load up advanced posting, it just spends ages loading and gets nowhere and it takes ages to decide its actually posted... so i have to press it a few more times

lyra_song · Aug 13, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Lets outline the plan.

Accounts Duping. Banned. Not hard to figure out.

Accounts who received large amounts of duped items.
Theres 2 possibilities. Legit players with rare items (innocent rich) and Accounts designed to launder off the duped items. The legit players are easy to find, they would have traded very rare things (super rare minis perhaps) for armbraces. The other kind of accounts would of course be banned.

Step down and you get to the poor folk. Innocent players who buy armbraces from: The dupe wholesaler/laundry account and the innocent rich account. These guys have no idea that they are dabbling in ill gotten goods. They could be banned by association.

pvxbuilds · Aug 13, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Why guildwiki s%ck that hard on servers? Look at any guildwars wiki, the have more users and run mediawiki that eats cpu and run like it was candy and yet they are fast. This site has advertising, sponsors and they have such bad servers? this is a rip off

Xenex Xclame · Aug 13, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Because maybe just maybe there are more people on the site at this time then there are on the other site?

And do you mean official wiki or the original wiki? Cause if you mean official then maybe its because they have Anet that owns the site.....