Curse

Witchblade · Aug 13, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by ibex333

I dont know why so many people are complaining about rollback... A rollback would be great. Not just a one month rollback, but a complete and total rollback on everything but titles.

Set all gold on acounts to zero.
Delete ALL items xept for armor. Put in basic max dmg weapons and focus/shield just so people have something to use till something better drops for them.

...Not !

Evilsod · Aug 13, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

Oh ffs this is geting stupid, Guru is going so slowly, i can't even get an 'advanced' message box to show up.

@ Enko. So they banned you and probably fenix for confirming this? I guess you could pass it off as a precaution, they might just check your accounts to make sure you haven't been doing it all this time and are attempting to worm your way out. But if they keep you banned... then nobody will ever report something like this again if this is the reward.

onerabbit · Aug 13, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49

σк, тнαт ωαѕ ωιєя∂... people know about this, yet still buy cheap ambraces ..

i just put in wts ambraces (3000 left) pm offer, and i had about 10 party invotations and about 50 people add me ...

fgarvin · Aug 13, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Kendar Muert

Read. Thread. Now.

You owe me approx 30 seconds of my life back. I actually spent time trying to determine what it was you were trying to convey with your post. You were trying too hard to look cool. Stop. It. Now.

BTW, I still have no idea. I am allowed to give my views on the topic...correct?

Oofus · Aug 13, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by onerabbit

i just put in wts ambraces (3000 left) pm offer, and i had about 10 party invotations and about 50 people add me ...

You're just asking to get flagged for a ban doing that, regardless if you're joking or not.

spellsword · Aug 13, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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σк, тнαт ωαѕ ωιєя∂... people know about this, yet still buy cheap ambraces ..

i just put in wts ambraces (3000 left) pm offer, and i had about 10 party invotations and about 50 people add me ...

Why wouldn't they buy them? Its not against the rules, especially as you can't tell if a item is legit or not. Duping is an exploit, but where a sold item came from isn't the buyers problem.

Loviatar · Aug 13, 2007, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Just because the duping has affected a small number of the gw community doesnt make what has happeneds any less worse.

first one point

i have made specific anti eliteist posts with specific exaples given

I HAVE NOT MADE ONE POST AGAINST THE RICH IN GENERAL

having said that what i posted was in direct answer to what this exploit will have on the GENERAL player base

probably less than the great trader price reset where random people got rich as fast as they could press *BUY*

undeadgun · Aug 13, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17

ｍｏｒｏｎｓ　ｉｎ　ｉｄ１　ａｓｃａｌｏｎ　ＷＴＳ XXX armbraces, WTB armbrace 5k! i mean if u are not helping on solve the situation, plz dont even let it go worse, gahhhhhhhhhhh, nose bleeding O_O

DeBron · Aug 13, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by ibex333

Set all gold on acounts to zero.
Delete ALL items xept for armor. Put in basic max dmg weapons and focus/shield just so people have something to use till something better drops for them.

No. Just because you got shafted as a result of this doesn't mean that everyone has to suffer.

Shadis · Aug 13, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by spellsword

Why wouldn't they buy them? Its not against the rules, especially as you can't tell if a item is legit or not. Duping is an exploit, but where a sold item came from isn't the buyers problem.

If you know what an Armbrace does, chances are you know how much it should be worth, someone selling one for 10k should raise and immediate red flag, not to mention that EVERYONE is talking about this in every major trading hub.

TheLordOfBlah · Aug 13, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Enko

heh guess I won't ever help anet figure out their bugs again as they banned the accounts we were using to figure this out last night. A single red dye was duped and the steps immediately sent off to Gaile Gray. She even responded with a thanks and promise to pass it on to the developers. if this is their response to ban those who helped them, I'm not even going to waste my sleep over trying anymore.

I doubt the people who were looking through to see this were told by gaile "BTW DONT BAN [X] and [Y]"

Even if she did, im sure considering the frenzy theyre probably in right now they ignored it when they saw it.

Not like you wont get it back.

dsnesnintendo · Aug 13, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56

working on the rollback
prices going down down

anyway we need at least a week rollback from the duping
i hate to say it unless they can detect and destroy the corrupted items and ban those involved

spellsword · Aug 13, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by Shadis

If you know what an Armbrace does, chances are you know how much it should be worth, someone selling one for 10k should raise and immediate red flag, not to mention that EVERYONE is talking about this in every major trading hub.

When someone offers you 100k for your minipig, its not your responsibility to make sure he didn't Ebay the gold, even if it is likely. This is the same thing. They probably did cheat for those armbraces, but that’s their problem, not yours.

LumpOfCole · Aug 13, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Armbrace prices are in a state of pure chaos. I hate to say it, but an economic rollback at this point is possibly required.

GloryFox · Aug 13, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Im sure Enko and others will get unbanned once cooler heads prevail. If anything we can start a petition on it. Overall its bad PR to ban them. Gaile knows this.

Then again I'm sure some of the Heads at ANET are very very very upset over this.

TheRaven · Aug 13, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Well, this has certainly been an interesting read this morning. I actually slept last night, so I missed out on all the excitement. I woke up to find the "new build" message, but that's not unusual. I assumed the new build was just deleting the Dragon Festival (or Fesitval as A-Net called it) stuff.

I'm curious how this will affect the long term economy. Especially the prices for Rare minipets and Tormented items. I am a minipet collector and I have my heart set on owning a Tormented Shield 1 day so I'm very interested in this.

Fact: 1000's of dup Armbraces have entered the economy.
Fact: Dupers have traded 1000's of Armbraces for rare pets.
Fact: Dupers have been banned.

This results in a permanent removal of rare pets replaced with Armbraces. How many Panda's were in the game to start with? Does someone have the correct number? It was less than 50 wasn't it? How about kanaxi's? Oni's? yeti's? Beetles?

How many pets were in fact traded to the dupers? Even with the bans this still leaves 1000s of bogus Armbraces in the game. Surely that will have a long-term affect on prices. And a rare pet has been removed forever.

Obey The Cat · Aug 13, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

who actually cares about armbrace/tormented weapon prices? there are 5 people who are trading armbraces but 1000000 people who are trading with ectos and ectos got duplicated too.... I'm sure.

korcan · Aug 13, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05

WTS Minipet Kanaxai for 7 Minipet Pandas

WTS Minipet Panda for 7 Minipet Greased Lightnings

Pkest · Aug 13, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by Quizzical

Why do you silly people seem to believe that a rollback would be all or nothing? Have you never played a game that had a partial rollback? If they wanted to do a rollback, what's stopping them from rolling back inventories, storages, and equipped items, while leaving mission and quest completion and titles alone? Or better yet, doing such a rollback, and then adding the mission and quest rewards gained during the time that was rolled back to the players inventories?

Such a partial rollback would remove whatever happened to the economy in the time rolled back. It wouldn't cost you your titles or missions or whatever, nor should it, as you can't trade a stack of armbraces for sunspear points, mission completion, etc. At worst, a few people trying for drunkard or sweet tooth would get an unfair bonus. That's hardly game-breaking.

Perhaps because Anet has stated numerous times that they have no capability to do a partial rollback. All they can do is reset the database to a particular point at which it was backed up.

On another note, I sincerely doubt they have dedicated the resources to keep total db backups that go back a whole month anyway.

The Herbalizer · Aug 13, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by TheRaven

Well, this has certainly been an interesting read this morning. I actually slept last night, so I missed out on all the excitement. I woke up to find the "new build" message, but that's not unusual. I assumed the new build was just deleting the Dragon Festival (or Fesitval as A-Net called it) stuff.

I'm curious how this will affect the long term economy. Especially the prices for Rare minipets and Tormented items. I am a minipet collector and I have my heart set on owning a Tormented Shield 1 day so I'm very interested in this.

Fact: 1000's of dup Armbraces have entered the economy.
Fact: Dupers have traded 1000's of Armbraces for rare pets.
Fact: Dupers have been banned.

This results in a permanent removal of rare pets replaced with Armbraces. How many Panda's were in the game to start with? Does someone have the correct number? It was less than 50 wasn't it? How about kanaxi's? Oni's? yeti's? Beetles?

How many pets were in fact traded to the dupers? Even with the bans this still leaves 1000s of bogus Armbraces in the game. Surely that will have a long-term affect on prices. And a rare pet has been removed forever.

100+ Panda

guildwiki.org has exact numbers.