Curse

Chieftain Heavyhand · Aug 16, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

If you were farming something for 20hr then they thought you were a bot.

One thing I've started doing while farming is not doing the run the same way each time. Mix it up every other time, that way you don't look like a bot.

Squirrel Oo · Aug 16, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Actually think about it. Are we really supposed to give explanations about what we haven't done in order to get a banned account unbanned? I mean when you have done NOTHING wrong... You have to write again and again to Anet if you want to play again. This is ridiculous, they are breaking the rules in this case. Think about it - can you actually be sure that tomorrow you will still be playing? Or you would get banned for nothing... And then comes the long wait until anet realises their mistake. I'd ask for a compensation. Will I get it, prolly no.

Mohnzh · Aug 16, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

The following is second-hand information, so it's worth about as much as I'm giving you to read it. I've heard here on GwG that guild/alliance/personal chat is not supposed to, but can sometimes throw flags as if it were local chat. Supposedly someone got flagged for swearing in guild chat and got perma-banned for it. After sending in support ticket, ANet saw that it flagged as if it were local chat, but it was guild chat and they reinstated the account. You said sometimes you get chatty and cuss. If you cussed a lot, it may have looked like swearing spam and thrown up a flag. As long as you were not in local chat, and the person you were talking to did not report it, they should reinstate you. At least, that's what I've "heard" happens.

Loviatar · Aug 16, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Oo

Actually think about it. Are we really supposed to give explanations about what we haven't done in order to get a banned account unbanned? I mean when you have done NOTHING wrong... You have to write again and again to Anet if you want to play again. This is ridiculous, they are breaking the rules in this case.

no stupid

you tell them a mistake has been made, they check the logs to be sure and thats it.

you send one ticket and follow the simple instructions to UPDATE that ticket with what information they need to prove the account is yours and not being stolen from another player.

t_the_nihilst · Aug 16, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

I just my account back today after sending in three tickets, being open and still maintaining that I was wrongly banned.

What happened is that they saw that someone had traded me 34 items without me trading anything back. In this case it was my guildie trading me 34 linen for my ele's Vabbian.

Just keep sending in your tickets. NSOFT are actually going back and fixing their mistakes, thankfully. Best of luck to you.

ducktape · Aug 16, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by t_the_nihilst

I just my account back today after sending in three tickets, being open and still maintaining that I was wrongly banned.

What happened is that they saw that someone had traded me 34 items without me trading anything back. In this case it was my guildie trading me 34 linen for my ele's Vabbian.

Just keep sending in your tickets. NSOFT are actually going back and fixing their mistakes, thankfully. Best of luck to you.

See that's horrible, I was afraid they were going to start doing things like that and assuming one-sided trades were part of the duping (here have these for free because they're duped) and they did either think you were involved in trading for duped stuff or they thought you were an ebayer (kinda dumb to ebay 34 linen, I know). Ebaying and duping or trading for dupes are ridiculously easy to disprove if they had actually looked at your chat logs instead of doing "ban first, listen to appeals later". They really should check peoples' logs before they ban, a really large portion of the accidental bans I see on here are stuff that should've been avoided if they had actually properly investigated before banning like they claim they do for every ban they give out. Seriously, I've even seen some people get banned for trade scamming or swearing or whatever because someone sent in a photoshopped screenshot and ANet/NCSoft didn't even bother to compare that screenshot to the chat or trade logs to make sure the complaint was real!

The really sad thing is that a lot of players don't read the forums and might not realize that they can appeal a ban when they haven't done anything wrong and just think that their account really has been banned forever and can't be unbanned. The way ANet/NCSoft does bannings seems so careless, almost everyone who trades or farms or chestruns has to constantly worry about being accidentally banned on accident for just playing the game

prism2525 · Aug 16, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

There's no way I'm gonna get banned. My account is so poor no one could EVER suspect bot activity.

t_the_nihilst · Aug 16, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by prism2525

There's no way I'm gonna get banned. My account is so poor no one could EVER suspect bot activity.

Just don't take linen from people and you'll be okay, haha...

TheRaven · Aug 16, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by t_the_nihilst

Just don't take linen from people and you'll be okay, haha...

I'm glad you got your account back. I'm not connected to Arenanet in any way, but here's my personal theory on what happened to you....

I remember reading the Dup scandal thread here a few days ago where a lot of folks were bashing the OhNo and GoM guilds for duping. Both of those guilds had many of their members banned for duping. GoM members were probably guilty (I still love that monkey photo!

), but OhNo appeared to have gotten a bum rap.

I'm guessing though that there was a guilty duper in the OhNo guild or Alliance and unfortunately he managed to taint the rest of you. He may have duped a fortune in armbraces or only a handful of ectos for his personal use. Either way, his account was flagged in the sweep and probably all 1 sided trades within his Alliance were then marked as suspect and banned.

Trading materials for free within a guild is fairly common and usually goes without notice, but not this weekend! Linen isn't too cheap. It's not expensive to buy, but also isn't in the cheapo throwaway category like cloth and hide squares.

Like I said, it's just a theory. I don't know for certain how A-net found and chose the folks they banned, but once all the dust settles, you may want to examine your guild roster and see if anyone is missing who has been told by A-net that his account will definitely not be restored.

t_the_nihilst · Aug 16, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

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Originally Posted by TheRaven

I'm glad you got your account back. I'm not connected to Arenanet in any way, but here's my personal theory on what happened to you....

I remember reading the Dup scandal thread here a few days ago where a lot of folks were bashing the OhNo and GoM guilds for duping. Both of those guilds had many of their members banned for duping. GoM members were probably guilty (I still love that monkey photo!

), but OhNo appeared to have gotten a bum rap.

I'm guessing though that there was a guilty duper in the OhNo guild or Alliance and unfortunately he managed to taint the rest of you. He may have duped a fortune in armbraces or only a handful of ectos for his personal use. Either way, his account was flagged in the sweep and probably all 1 sided trades within his Alliance were then marked as suspect and banned.

Trading materials for free within a guild is fairly common and usually goes without notice, but not this weekend! Linen isn't too cheap. It's not expensive to buy, but also isn't in the cheapo throwaway category like cloth and hide squares.

Like I said, it's just a theory. I don't know for certain how A-net found and chose the folks they banned, but once all the dust settles, you may want to examine your guild roster and see if anyone is missing who has been told by A-net that his account will definitely not be restored.

Well this is the story:
On day of major dupage, two of my guildies got a PM from an old friend. This friend claimed he was 'quitting the game' and wanted to give his ectos away. He traded them 600 ecto. Would I feel comfortable taking 600 ecto from someone for any reason? No. But for some reason to them it seemed okay. They were banned and are not getting their accounts back.
Did they maybe think that the ecto were duped considering the armbrace scandal? I'm not really sure. But either way, receiving 600 ecto from someone you haven't heard from in a long time should strike suspicion.
Despite their permaban they were good players and good friends, and I will miss them. And although taking those ecto as a gift may be a bannable offense, I know many would do the same in their position so please don’t assume they were jerks or noobs or cheats.
OhNo have never been and will never be dupers. This does not mean that two of our members weren't banned for actually having duped items on their accounts.
One of these two guild members gave me the linen, which adds to why I was probably banned. Myself and the other two innocents in my guild got our accounts back.

And that's the official story.

EternalTempest · Aug 16, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

As other pointed out, keep bugging support, they will re-review your case.

Fitz Rinley · Aug 16, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Good luck. ANet and I are rarely on good terms, and have not been since Factions came out. My ability to be polite with them ended months ago. The release of Factions and the things that went with it killed All of my trust in ANet and I no longer expect anything positive from them at any time for any reason. At least that way I can never again be disappointed in them.

However, I have heard of people getting their bans and suspensions lifted.

TheRaven · Aug 16, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by t_the_nihilst

Well this is the story:
On day of major dupage, two of my guildies got a PM from an old friend. This friend claimed he was 'quitting the game' and wanted to give his ectos away. He traded them 600 ecto. Would I feel comfortable taking 600 ecto from someone for any reason? No. But for some reason to them it seemed okay. They were banned and are not getting their accounts back.
Did they maybe think that the ecto were duped considering the armbrace scandal? I'm not really sure. But either way, receiving 600 ecto from someone you haven't heard from in a long time should strike suspicion.
Despite their permaban they were good players and good friends, and I will miss them. And although taking those ecto as a gift may be a bannable offense, I know many would do the same in their position so please don’t assume they were jerks or noobs or cheats.
OhNo have never been and will never be dupers. This does not mean that two of our members weren't banned for actually having duped items on their accounts.
One of these two guild members gave me the linen, which adds to why I was probably banned. Myself and the other two innocents in my guild got our accounts back.

And that's the official story.

Thx for posting the story. That definitely explains why so many in your guild were banned. Your friends sound like generous players that probably gave away many items to guildies in need. Perhaps some were duped, perhaps not, but it looked suspicious to Anet. After all they really can't tell the difference between a guildie giving a gift to a guildmate in need and someone trying to spread the loot around various Alt accounts.

I'm not going to judge your guildmates. If they really didn't know the ectos were duped then they have my sympathy. I can't say that I wouldn't have taken them as well in their position. Personally, if a friend or guildmate came to me and offered me 600 ectos, I won't take them. I feel that they are too valuable.

HOWEVER, if a friend or acquaintance that I hadn't seen online in a month or 2 came to me and offered the ectos, saying he's quitting the game, I probably would have taken them. 600 ectos isn't an unheard of amount of wealth for a full time farmer or power trader to have and if he's quitting the game, it's logical to want to give the stuff to friends before deleting the account. After all, we all leave wills designating who gets our stuff when we die. We don't burn up our cash in the fireplace saying "oh well, I have cancer, I'm going to be dead in a month". No, of course not, you leave it to your children and give special items to friends that you think would appreciate the stuff.

As a matter of fact, I have accepted items. About a month ago, one of the forum regulars posted a thread here. It was the typical rant thread stating "I hate the game, I hate what Anet did to the game, I'm quitting!!! Bye!" But, this guy also said he had a nice minipet collection of around 30-40 pets. He said he'd be in Shing Jea monastery giving away pets to folks that could answer trivia questions and afterwards he was deleting the account.

I love mini-pets, so I showed up in the monastery and I managed to win 3 pets from him. 2 were 1st year birthday presents and not worth a lot of cash, but the 3rd was a Mini Lich. Certainly not a pet that will propel me into the realm of the super-rich, but a very nice prize to win from a stranger.

Were the pets duped? I doubt it. At the time, the thought never even crossed my mind. A month ago, only the dupers themselves knew it was possible.

I wish your friends could recover their accounts (minus the ectos of course), but I guess Anet has no way of knowing whether or not they did really know the ectos were bogus and if they did know, the game is better off without them. Still, it might be worth a try for them to appeal. Perhaps the chat logs during the trade itself could vindicate them.

NekoZ · Aug 17, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

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Originally Posted by t_the_nihilst

What happened is that they saw that someone had traded me 34 items without me trading anything back. In this case it was my guildie trading me 34 linen for my ele's Vabbian.

I want a comment from ANet/Gaile on that. 34 Linen in a trade. Banned. (and surprisingly unbanned in 3 days but still.)

Bowstring Badass · Aug 17, 2007, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Everytime you come into the zone talk to a guildie or answer some noobs question in all chat.

Swift Thief · Aug 17, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

This will do you no good. Once one account is banned, your IP, email address and details are all flagged and ensure any other accounts you attempt to start are banned.

Not true. Get a new email.

SerenitySilverstar · Aug 17, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Le SIGH. I will quote the OFFICIAL EULA, again...

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Originally Posted by The GW EULA, Section 4, subsection (i)

http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...-agreement.php

Related Accounts. If NC Interactive terminates an Account, NC Interactive may terminate any other Accounts that share the same member name, phone number, email address, postal address, Internet Protocol address, or credit card number with the terminated Account.

Changing one thing or another will NOT help.

manitoba1073 · Aug 17, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

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Originally Posted by t_the_nihilst

I just my account back today after sending in three tickets, being open and still maintaining that I was wrongly banned.

What happened is that they saw that someone had traded me 34 items without me trading anything back. In this case it was my guildie trading me 34 linen for my ele's Vabbian.

Just keep sending in your tickets. NSOFT are actually going back and fixing their mistakes, thankfully. Best of luck to you.

Glad you guys got them back so far so good. Now someppl owe you guys some apologies, but I doubt that will happen here as so many are just that ignorant.

Lilith Moonraven · Aug 17, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59

Hello,

Thank you for contact Guild Wars Support. After reviewing the issue, it appears that your account was blocked in error. Your account is now released and you should be able to log in to Guild Wars. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Take care,
GM Phields
The Guild Wars Support Team

This was what i got today from support so everything worked out and i have my account back.
They do a decent job.

Moloch Vein · Aug 17, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13

It's nice that you got your account back. However, this really isn't a good support email.

It's bloody Kafka. You don't get to know why you were accused. You don't get to know why you were cleared. You don't get to know anything of any steps they may have taken.

To be honest this should merit some form of compensation, for good-will if nothing else.

Peace and good luck with your game,
Moloch