Aug 22, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48
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#21
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester, England
Guild: New Dragons [NDR]
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If you sit at a computer all day doing chest runs then I think the ban did you a lot of good, sitting at a computer screen all day is definitely not healthy.
If you hang around outside a bank looking shifty you're going to be accused of being a robber. If you're going to behave like a bot then don't be surprised if you get accused of being a bot.
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Aug 22, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50
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#22
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: AUSSIE TROLLING CREW - CAPSLOCK CONSULTANT
Guild: [Dong]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
If you sit at a computer all day doing chest runs then I think the ban did you a lot of good, sitting at a computer screen all day is definitely not healthy.
If you hang around outside a bank looking shifty you're going to be accused of being a robber. If you're going to behave like a bot then don't be surprised if you get accused of being a bot.
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That's the most ridiculous suggestion I've ever seen. The ban is executed for "using a third party program" not "repeating a series of actions manually" or "playing too long". The behaviour is not what the ban is for, it's for accusation (read, suspicion) of third party programs to automate that behaviour.
Just try and wrap your head around that before you post again.
P.S. You're dumb.
P.P.S. For the rest of the audience who's disenchanted with this type of action from Anet, put your money where your mouth is and don't pre-order or even purchase EotN. Complaining on a forum about the developers management of the game but still rushing out to preorder is sending mixed signals. Preorders are very important, as they allow the developers and publishers to prove to the media and sales outlets that their game is popular and worth covering/advertising and thus creating more hype for the game. So if you're not happy, send them the message in the only way they'll probably get it.
Last edited by Agyar; Aug 22, 2007 at 12:53 PM // 12:53..
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Aug 22, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52
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#23
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN]
Profession: W/Mo
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To the OP: You admittedly perform botlike activity and get banned - yet you have the gall to complain about the experience when they give you your account back?
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Aug 22, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53
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#24
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
If you hang around outside a bank looking shifty you're going to be accused of being a robber. If you're going to behave like a bot then don't be surprised if you get accused of being a bot.
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In that case maybe Anet shouldn't put titles in the game for which bot-like behaviour is the only viable way to get them maxed --- like the Treasure Hunter title is.
Can't blame the players for having to do hardcore things that may resemble "bot-like behaviour" to max titles that any way you slice it, require a ludicrous amount of hours and repetition to max. The devs are the ones who deliberately made the time and thousands of repetitive behaviours required to max them be so outrageously ludicrous. That's not the players' fault.
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Aug 22, 2007, 12:55 PM // 12:55
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#25
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: AUSSIE TROLLING CREW - CAPSLOCK CONSULTANT
Guild: [Dong]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mournblade
To the OP: You admittedly perform botlike activity and get banned - yet you have the gall to complain about the experience when they give you your account back?
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The gall to complain about a bad customer service experience after an incorrectly executed ban? Jesus Christ, that "gall" is the basic right of any customer anywhere who feels the service they are receiving isn't adequate.
People need to stop kissing Anet's arse and wake up to the fact they're paying them for a service and they should expect a certain level of quality in the delivery of that service.
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06
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#26
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US
Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG}
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Agyar
The gall to complain about a bad customer service experience after an incorrectly executed ban? Jesus Christ, that "gall" is the basic right of any customer anywhere who feels the service they are receiving isn't adequate.
People need to stop kissing Anet's arse and wake up to the fact they're paying them for a service and they should expect a certain level of quality in the delivery of that service.
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why do you troll a forum and play a game that you hate so much? I am seriously trying to understand and not trying to start a flame war...but it just boggles my mind that you would do so!
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:12 PM // 13:12
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#27
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest
Profession: W/
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I know that if I ever make a game, the EULA will DEMAND that the player always act in a way that passes a basic Turing test...
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:12 PM // 13:12
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#28
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Master of Mallyx
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]
Profession: E/Me
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For the record, we have no proof that any of the original poster's claims are true or fact. He may have been using 3rd party software, he may have made up this whole chest run thing or he may have been falsely accused. To assume the OP's original story is the full truth is short sighted.
To the original poster, just be glad you got your account back and ease off on the 5 hour marathons of 45 second chest runs, if that was the problem.
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2006
Guild: NiTe
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Well whatever ANet is doing, they can NEVER proove that u are using 3rd party software. They can only assume it.
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:28 PM // 13:28
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#30
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: White Dragons Of The Sky
Profession: P/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
If you sit at a computer all day doing chest runs then I think the ban did you a lot of good, sitting at a computer screen all day is definitely not healthy.
If you hang around outside a bank looking shifty you're going to be accused of being a robber. If you're going to behave like a bot then don't be surprised if you get accused of being a bot.
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Think what u say before you type because that is the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard. The guy payed for the game he can spent as much time on it as he likes and yes this sounds absolutely ridiculous. Arenanet just assume people are bots and ban them when they were the one's who introduced titles which require repetetive actions. I'll probably get banned for farming SS points in Sulfurous wastes soon... Arenate this is a cry from all of us; please get proper anti-bot measures and stop banning innocent people who have payed good money to play this game.
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32
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#31
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2007
Guild: ----//---//---//-----//----
Profession: W/
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Op thanks for the warning but i can understand why A_Net is being a physical overseer(watcher i might spelled thta wrong) Maybe the Bot population is out of control and they cant catch al of em (Apperantly they cant) so they take this kind of aproach so if suspicious you look you are a suspect. Just avoid this kind of Behavior and honestly its just a title do 50 chets a day not 300 dont spend 5 hours spend 3 that way aint nothing suspicious there work on Other titls in meanwile and your problem solved
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:39 PM // 13:39
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#32
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Finland
Guild: League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Agyar
That's the most ridiculous suggestion I've ever seen. The ban is executed for "using a third party program" not "repeating a series of actions manually" ...
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And you don't agree that doing the exact same thing for hours and hours does seem like bot action, therefore implying the use of a third party program?
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47
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#33
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Edge
Guild: Tormented Weapons [emo]
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A lot of people exhibit bot-like behavior then. It's not just chest runs, but people grinding for other titles. I've done bot-like behavior grinding for SS/LB rank as well as doing Luxon Arena over and over and over again when I was trying to get Luxon faction. I've never done 5 hours in a row or anything close to it, but you get in a groove and turn on your automatic pilot and just do it. To a casual observer, it could look like a bot. Point is, these GM's should not be casual observers and Anet should be more diligent in their investigation before issuing a permanent ban.
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50
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#34
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Profession: Mo/Me
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Hmm, Anet'd better fix this kind of ingame GM behaviour.
Anyway: please, no 3th party software detecter, like say, punkbuster, it's pretty annoying getting banned because you have limewaire on...not to mention texmod.
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Aug 22, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58
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#35
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Profession: Mo/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Smit
Well whatever ANet is doing, they can NEVER proove that u are using 3rd party software. They can only assume it.
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Correct, they also do not need to prove anything.
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Aug 22, 2007, 02:04 PM // 14:04
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#36
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Among dead bodies.
Guild: The Republic of Sky Pirates
Profession: E/
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If they DO obrserve characters (ie. a mod with an account in any outpost), then all you have to do is whisp them. A bot won't respond even if you tell him: "Hey, I'm a mod and if you don't talk back we're gonna perma-ban you!" If he said that to me I'd freak out and spend a whole hour chatting if I have to!
EDIT: Also I suggested this elsewhere, but can't they make an invisible feature in the client that maps and compares your movement patterns if exiting the same outpost more than once? Bots would have perfectly identical movements and timings whereas legitamate players can't do that even if they try.
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Aug 22, 2007, 02:08 PM // 14:08
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#37
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: R/
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Summary Please.
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Aug 22, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12
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#38
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: E/Mo
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/shallow display of concern. Sorry about your account being banned and all that old chap, most distressing for you, you have my utmost sympathy etc etc blah blah
.................. but more importantly, where is this magic chest????????
I had a couple of runs round the Stygian Veil but it didn't spawn for me, and even if it were to spawn nearby I can't see it working out any quicker than a run thru Lyss or Whitman's (when you factor in running to the gate & resigning afterward).
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Aug 22, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13
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#39
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Among dead bodies.
Guild: The Republic of Sky Pirates
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
You deserve the ban, seriously all that time chest running. Dude get out of the house go see the daylight, ride a bike, watch a movie without download times, chat up a girl, atleast try to live damn it!
Warning real life is seriously lacking in res shrines... becareful
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Thank you for trying to start a flame war... but it didn't work.
Anet banned him because they thought he was a bot: something which could have been cleared up easily by whisping him/her. The ban, according to the OP's story, is totally unjustified and doesn't deserve the "one-time offender mark". He was just grinding for a title (boring as hell and anyone can tell him to get a life and all, but no reason to ban).
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Aug 22, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16
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#40
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade26
Summary Please.
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He got banned as A-net thought he was using a bot he got some crap customer customer service got his account back the end.
Last edited by Ghost Recon; Aug 22, 2007 at 02:19 PM // 14:19..
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