Curse

Karlos · Aug 27, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

A common practice of those going for the wisdom title is to salvage gold armor before IDing it. Mathematically, as your wisdom and treasure hunter titles go up, this yields more IDs even with the risk of breaking the armor and getting insignias (i.e the chance of getting no ID off the armor).

However, ever since the update on Thursday evening my elemenatlist (rank 6 ID and rank 5 treasure hunter) has broken EVERY armor she tried to salvage before IDing (total of about 8 or 9 armors).

Has anyone else who practices this had the same issue. Has anyone been able to slavage from an unIDed armor and retain it? I think ANet decided to "fix" this.

Brianna · Aug 27, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Maybe.. It's just bad luck? Happens all the time.

If Anet did patch it, then oh well. Another small thing people will get over, life moves on.

My Green Storage · Aug 27, 2007, 07:25 PM // 19:25

If I get gold armors (heading to farm right now), I'll try it with my ele (Rank 4 and 4).

But being that I only did it a few times (less then 10), it doesn't affect me.
On the other hand, I never saw it as some will probably say, cheap.
I guess, if it was fixed, ANET saw it as cheap.

Zallya · Aug 27, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

Perfect Salvage Kits should ease any problems you have like that. Wait a week, then one will be a mere skill point, 25 each of a couple of common materials, and 250 gold away (assuming you're getting GW:EN, and getting to Slayer of Nightmares to craft them is far from hard)

In any case, just bad luck. Sorry

Drop of Fear · Aug 27, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

i was about to open this aswell. i do a lot of chestruns and i usualy salvage my gold armors before i identify them.
well with 90%+ rate i broke 10 in a row today, then i gave up. truly something has changed here.

Lycan Nibbler · Aug 27, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

I haven't had many armours over the weekend - but the few I had also all broke, so I am in agreement that its been "fixed"... will be interested in the results of using one of the the perfect salvage kits though to see what happens then.

Karlos · Aug 27, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

Therein lies the issue, why has this been "fixed"?

It's unfair, the title is already ridiculously long, and all people who have it pay to buy unIDs instead of actually playing the game and on top of that it makes sense that you retain your armor as your rank rises, why "fix" it?

Yawgmoth · Aug 27, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Salvaging just got nerfed.
Expert/Perfect salvaging unident items always destroys it and there's one more new annoyance - unident items can't be salvaged with a basic kit at all! Before, when on a long journey, when short on id kit uses, I used to basic salvage blues/grapes for materials (better than throw away, and 'highly salvagable' worked before id'ing too) but now it's impossible. Why such a change?

kooomar · Aug 27, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

This has its pros and cons. It is OBVIOUSLY "nerfed" as I have broken all my armors too, but passed it off as RIDICULOUSLY bad luck. But, now that there are others, it makes sense that it was fixed. This really hurts those of us going for the max titles, but there is a very small amount of us compared to the "noobs" that are getting "scammed" buying unid armor. So, while it hurts us, it also hurts bots while helping newer players.

If there was a way to meet in between, itd be awesome, but I think this is to prevent "Scamming" more than it is to prevent us getting SoW.

Frostnova · Aug 27, 2007, 09:17 PM // 21:17

noob question>>>what DOES happen before this nerf happened when u salvage gold items b4 id-ing it?<<<

Omniclasm · Aug 27, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Its "Fixed" not "Nerfed". Selling Unid Gold items with no runes ftw.

Diddy bow · Aug 27, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Salvaging just got nerfed.
Expert/Perfect salvaging unident items always destroys it and there's one more new annoyance - unident items can't be salvaged with a basic kit at all!

Im 99% sure its been that way for a while

Vamis Threen · Aug 27, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58

Not "for a while"- worked fine until last week for me.

Enko · Aug 27, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Frostnova

noob question>>>what DOES happen before this nerf happened when u salvage gold items b4 id-ing it?<<<

if you have an unid armor, you can salvage out the rune and/or the insignia and still have the armor be unid. so if you have a gold armor, you have a chance of salvaging out the rune (which would also be unid) so two credits to wisdom title for the price of one.

i just salvaged some unid armors a couple of days ago and 1 broke with the insignia pulled out while the other the rune came out and the armor broke.

i'll do some more testing later on on some blue and purple armors.

Frostnova · Aug 27, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40

o......if i found out about this, i woulda spent less money on my wisdom title ='(

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 27, 2007, 10:46 PM // 22:46

they most likely did this because the bots selling all the unided gold armors had previously salvaged all runes and insignias off the armors.

Voltar · Aug 27, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

they most likely did this because the bots selling all the unided gold armors had previously salvaged all runes and insignias off the armors.

That's harsh...I never even thought about that (because I've never bought unID'd golds before). I'd call this a fix too...It also never occurred to me to salvage first in order to be able to double-ID an item since I nickle-and-dime all my money to avoiid having to farm regularly. Pretty clever but I guess that's all over now.

unienaule · Aug 27, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

I'm personally waiting for Gaile to come in, wave her hand, and say, "There was no change, it was always this way."

Enko · Aug 27, 2007, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

they most likely did this because the bots selling all the unided gold armors had previously salvaged all runes and insignias off the armors.

well for one, the ones selling those to other players most likely weren't bots and most of the armors i bought from people still had the runes in them so just meant almost double IDs for me.

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 27, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09

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Originally Posted by Enko

well for one, the ones selling those to other players most likely weren't bots and most of the armors i bought from people still had the runes in them so just meant almost double IDs for me.

well you must have bought it from someone else.... Doesn't anyone remember the countless threads of "WHY are there no runes in my gold armors!?!" threads?