Curse

Snow Bunny · Aug 31, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

The only difficult thing is that SOB dwarf that says, "We love you I Snow Bunny I!", and than heals Headmaster Vhang.

Little double-dealing turncoat bastards.

Series · Aug 31, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

wow @ you guys.

How about instead of running your standard mending+healing hands combo, you try using a little creativity? Any profession can EASILY make several builds to rip through the arena without trouble, except MAYBE monk would have trouble.

Andrew Patrick · Aug 31, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Just FYI the spectators healing is a bug and will be fixed soon. If you still have problems after it is fixed, please let us know.

MisterB · Aug 31, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Thanks for the update, Andrew. The spectators healing has forced a stalemate on me in 2 rounds. Also, a big thank you for the Norn arena; it's great fun. As for overpowered, I've defeated every oponent with my warrior, so I guess that means that either warriors or myself are overpowered. Any class can do it, but Monks may have to steal an idea from Mhenlo and the farming forum.

edit: As for Zho appearing, I've fought her multiple times; it is random

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Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar

How much you reckon I can sell a Zho book for?

Zho's Journal is customized to your character once you defeat her.

makosi · Sep 01, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35

In an attempt to be constructive, here's an effective Ele build that works 99% of the time:

[skill]Stone Daggers[/skill][skill]Obsidian Flame[/skill][skill]Earth Attunement[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Kinetic Armor[/skill][skill]Ether Renewal[/skill] + [skill]Mending Touch[/skill] or [skill]Hex Breaker[/skill] or [skill]Gaze of Contempt[/skill]

16 Earth, 13 Energy Storage

Credits go to my good friend and guild mate.

Andisa Kalorn · Sep 01, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

Just FYI the spectators healing is a bug and will be fixed soon. If you still have problems after it is fixed, please let us know.

That's nice to know. Went through the norn arena with 3 characters today, and although it was pretty easy, I had to leave a few times due to not being able to out-damage an opponent with lots of self healing + spectator healing. Other times I managed, but it was long and boring.

Davros Uitar · Sep 01, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

No way overpowered. I know the cookie cutter build for warriors i Grenths Balance (at the moment), but I steered away from that to play about with a build I used to farm hydras with back in the desert (Victory is mine / ripostomatic). I swap equipment about against the casters, add in an interrupt for casters, and I manage to beat 95% of stuff (so far only Eve and Menhlo still have winning margins against me).

Redfeather1975 · Sep 01, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

I heard it's changed since the Sneak Peak.
What all has changed?

Kinn · Sep 01, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

As much as I hate to do this, I'm going to have to side with the "Learn2Play Lol" side here... :{

Seriously, it's not hard.

Honestly "C-Space" works wonders here.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

Just FYI the spectators healing is a bug and will be fixed soon. If you still have problems after it is fixed, please let us know.

Hahahahahahah, nice save mate ^_~

Redfeather1975 · Sep 01, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by Kinn

As much as I hate to do this, I'm going to have to side with the "Learn2Play Lol" side here... :{

Seriously, it's not hard.

Honestly "C-Space" works wonders here.

I believe you, seeing as you posted recent movies of you beating him with every profession....oh wait.

Diablo™ · Sep 01, 2007, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I heard it's changed since the Sneak Peak.
What all has changed?

They charge you once you enter the arena.

In the Sneak Peak they just idle like a retard and wait while you spirit spam right in front of their face. When you pull aggro they'll just blissfully walk into your 1000 dmg per second death traps like they don't know it's there. This applies even to Bison.

I think its a good change.

Kinn · Sep 01, 2007, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I believe you, seeing as you posted recent movies of you beating him with every profession.

You saw those too? Sweet

Redfeather1975 · Sep 01, 2007, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Diablo™

They charge you once you enter the arena.

In the Sneak Peak they just idle like a retard and wait while you spirit spam right in front of their face. When you pull aggro they'll just blissfully walk into your 1000 dmg per second death traps like they don't know it's there. This applies even to Bison.

I think its a good change.

I heard Bison uses his bear form right away now.
It is a good change. I thought it really odd that they stood there and let players prep anything they wanted for as long as they want before the fight.

HawkofStorms · Sep 01, 2007, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Yeah, basically trapers and Spirit Spammers can't be used like before.

Will probablly blow for people with slower loads (like my 56k at home), might even make it unplayable, but that's the price you pay for making it difficult.

Nothing against AI (well, other then like DoA and Mallayx) is ever "overpowered." It can be diffcult. It can require a wierd build that you design yourself. But it can be done.

Kinn · Sep 01, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Nothing against AI (well, other then like DoA and Mallayx) is ever "overpowered." It can be diffcult. It can require a wierd build that you design yourself. But it can be done.

God forbid we'd ever want gameplay that requires "designing" builds "yourself" now, would we?

Omega X · Sep 01, 2007, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Will probablly blow for people with slower loads (like my 56k at home), might even make it unplayable, but that's the price you pay for making it difficult.

The question would be, is that price worth paying? Because if it ends up being a DoA fiasco type thing again, there won't be many people playing that part of the game.

What they should do is use a type of difficulty ramp where the enemies get progressively harder and not right out of the gate on the first round. The only thing that does is bring out specialized wipeout builds that ends up defeating the entire thing on a whim (like the spirit spam).

Epinephrine · Sep 01, 2007, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Played it for the first time today; got to Bison and lost first time, adjusted, lost, adjusted and won. Somehow I thought it would be harder with all the griping.

For reference, it was my ranger. I used a modified ebon dust aura build in the end; Called Shot, Screaming Shot, Distracting Shot, Apply Poison, Troll Unguent, Antidote Signet, Rending Touch and Ebon Dust Aura.

Didn't meet Zho though, but I've only tried 3 times. I'm sure that she'll turn up.

Lorden · Sep 01, 2007, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Norn Tourny is not over powered at all. sometimes people have to understand that they are not good at the game and need some outside help or practice/better ideas.

There are Two Universal skill bars that can be used by any class, but .you should try and figure it out. (go look it up)

But i do agree upon the spectators being a real nuisance due to the fact that they may do some weird healing (not sure, but i have noticed some strage healing happening to the NPC's in match) and to the fact that when i press "V" (My Hotkey for closest ally) it selects them and not something i need.

Neo Nugget · Sep 01, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

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Originally Posted by Im Using The Force

As much as I might appreciate the advice on how to get thru the Arena fights, that isnt what is concerning me.
BTW They rush you immediately now Have since gwen reopened
Rit spirit spam isnt the way Id go.

I tried it, i find it still works when you cast them at the crack in the gate.

Nomme Moon · Sep 01, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Is this BS a bug? it's getting on my nerves.

I've wasted 800 gold trying to get to Zho.

EVERY SINGLE TIME, 8 of 8 tries, the spawn of enemies have been like this:

Kisai, Vekk, Cynn, Eve, Mhenlo, Bison

it is REALLY getting on my nerves.