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margretli · Sep 06, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Depression existed long before technology evolved to its current stage. I am no expert, but am suffering from depression myself. From reading the OP's posts, they do suggest a great deal of depression.

I still suggest the OP to go seek a professional opinion. A psychiatrist is not there to cure anything. A psychiatrist is there to facilitate conversations. Issues get talked about in a healthy way.

It's very clear that the OP has the needs to talk about this, otherwise this thread will not existed. Talking to a shrink works in a very similar way, but way more constructive. Makes things much easier to deal with.

All and all, the first and most important thing that has to happen is for the OP to actually admit that a little help is needed.

My two cents from experience.

Superdarth · Sep 06, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Oh dear..

To the OP: It sounds to me like youre having some addiction problem. No offense but if you seek to replace real life with a game you do need help.

As to what you stated in youre post: That dream of youre is impossible, it cannot be done. All games will die after about 5 years after its release, give or take. Not because A-net decided to pull the plug but because the players do not want to play it and expansions can no longer sustain it, the players get bored and leave. The game is no longer profitable and shuts down, this will happen to every MMO out there, it might take a while but it will.

If you seek to leave a mark on the world you will have to do it in real life, not in a virtual world.

The Lurch · Sep 06, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by ockhams

...RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO

Can someone please tell me...WTFBBQ IS THIS?!?!?! I've seen it a few times now, but seriously, WTF does it mean?

Lilanthe · Sep 06, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by The Lurch

Can someone please tell me...WTFBBQ IS THIS?!?!?! I've seen it a few times now, but seriously, WTF does it mean?

the REDENGINEREDENGINE censors swears.

Lawnmower · Sep 06, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by margretli

Depression existed long before technology evolved to its current stage. I am no expert, but am suffering from depression myself. From reading the OP's posts, they do suggest a great deal of depression.

I still suggest the OP to go seek a professional opinion. A psychiatrist is not there to cure anything. A psychiatrist is there to facilitate conversations. Issues get talked about in a healthy way.

It's very clear that the OP has the needs to talk about this, otherwise this thread will not existed. Talking to a shrink works in a very similar way, but way more constructive. Makes things much easier to deal with.

All and all, the first and most important thing that has to happen is for the OP to actually admit that a little help is needed.

My two cents from experience.

I have seen a psychiatrist. I went to see him because I sometimes just eat a ton and gain alot of weight. Also I had massive mood swings. Sometimes in the morning I would feel everything was pointless. And then in the evening I would be happy. Maybe it was just all the sugar rush from the sweets I ate that did that, tho.

I saw my psychiatrist once a month for 20 minutes. Instead he just asked me to take some pills and answer his questions.

I was very open about it. But the thing was that I felt bad after seeing him. I felt normal and in control before, despite having some eating issues. Perhaps I was just eating out of boredom? Or perhaps because I starved myself all day so I could eat in front of my computer because I thought it was a nice and good feeling?

But I got these pills. I started feeling sick. Soon I got upgraded to 20mg everyday. I started to stop taking resposibility for my life. Hey.. I was taking pills and seeing a anti-crazy man. It was a miracle I didnt jump in front of a car right?
So I made excuses why I shouldnt do the things a normal person would do.

After I stopped and after I stopped taking pills. I started working out and eating right. I lost 20 pounds, in 7 days! I worked my ass off.
And I felt good. I felt clear, and in control.

So the psychiatrist was just crap for me. Maybe I just got a bad one. He sounded like that he didnt care about what I wanted to say. he was just so busy all the time. "just take the pills.. and take some time". I had all these questions...

If I am every going to recieve help again, I think I would try a psychologist. No more meds and pills for me. But I am not sure if I really think I have a problem. Is that really so much mor extreme what other people think, and have fears about?

Lawnmower · Sep 06, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Superdarth

Oh dear..

To the OP: It sounds to me like youre having some addiction problem. No offense but if you seek to replace real life with a game you do need help.

As to what you stated in youre post: That dream of youre is impossible, it cannot be done. All games will die after about 5 years after its release, give or take. Not because A-net decided to pull the plug but because the players do not want to play it and expansions can no longer sustain it, the players get bored and leave. The game is no longer profitable and shuts down, this will happen to every MMO out there, it might take a while but it will.

If you seek to leave a mark on the world you will have to do it in real life, not in a virtual world.

What about Everquest? Aint that game 11 years old? and doesnt it have 400 subscripers?

Or ultima online? or even some of the old MUDs?

Starcraft and counter-strike are both almost 10 years old now. WoW is 3 and its still getting bigger.

Diablo 2 is still incredible massive... despite the hacking, duping and all that - on gamefaqs.com its forums activity is much bigger than most other games, including gw - but to be fair, GWs fanbase might be spread thin over 4-5 different products with their own individual forums!

im still surprised and shocked to why... why GW2 so soon? I honestly thought that they would make something like 11 campaigns at least with gw1.

margretli · Sep 06, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29

The sessions I have are 45 to 60 minutes every two weeks. With an option that I can call him if things get out of control. The shrink I have is great. He's not the kind that gives out pills. I've had ideas about jumping off of tall buildings and so on, and talking to my psychiatrist help to calm things down.

However, I agree that it is a bit of a pain to try and find someone that you click with, and understand your needs. Especially with the high cost that associated with seeing a psychiatrist. Here in Canada it's covered in our basic medical plans. So it's easy for me to have frequent sessions.

My boyfriend also suffers from depression. He have tried anti-depressants. Results are extreamly different from people to people, and from med to med. You need to try different type of drugs to find the right kind, or if meds are the right route. Also, anti-depressants takes a long time to get on and off. It's not easy to get on a drug. It even harder to get off of it. I'm not surprised that you fill sick when you first take the pills. My boyfriend didn't do too well with the meds he had. The drug made him tired and wanted to do nothing but sleep. Once he is off of it, he is able to get back into the swing of things and keep going to therapy. We have other friends who also take anti-depressants, and some of them are doing very well with the drugs they take.

Also, depression is more common than a lot of people would think. It's not an easy thing to get a hold of. It's not like an empty stomach that you can fill. It takes time, and effort.

I'm not here to tell you that you have a problem. I'm here to let you know that I have similar experience, although, not for the same reasons as yours. There is a way to make things easier for yourself, and that is to except the fact that things are not going well.

Well enough of this. I don't want to burden other forum goers with this s*it. The weekend is here (for me anyways)! And GW:EN is waiting...

dont feel no pain · Sep 06, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

....btw get some help, its a game plain and simple, its fun, not serious, not life, its when you got a problem in life that you hide away, and now that your afaid your hiding spot will be gone, life will be over, lol no it will put you right back into life, unless you find another hiding spot, which i hope you dont

GL HF

btw log off, and take a break, walk outside for a few mins, you may feel better then

Im not being rude, just saying

Lawnmower · Sep 06, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Zorgy

"...In RL I already feel old. I am 20 years old. physically wise its just gonna go downhill from here. the 18 year olds will probably be stronger than me now. my body is decaying. life is starting to be more about bills and ambitions and different schools of thought that I have, is being killed by man's ideology of what life is about - be a drone in drone city, worship drone gods, do repetitive work to make drone currency - to be a drone consumer and buy Ikea furniture to make the drone economy stable, and make sure that drone world continues forever, so we all can live in our little pond of what life is about..."

"...I am afraid. Thats what I think my biggest problem is. I am afraid of becoming old and dependant on others. I think thats what I am trying to escape in GW...."

"...So thats it. I have made threads about it before. why buy and play GWEN.. why bother playing GW anymore when it was all for nothing? when the time.. that cant get returned to you, was wasted on character development that would relatively soon get smashed away...."

"...Why clean your house when it will be unclean, why upgrade your computer when it will get outdated, why buy the latest WoW expansion when they will just make another one and make you grind 10 more levels again..."

"...WHY? Is why the problem? Is asking the real problem?..."

To the OP: Please read again the a/m sentences which have been produced by your own neuronal system.

You convey the existentialism message:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism

Albert Camus, a french existentialist philosopher used to say that " the MAIN genuine philosophical concept was SUICIDE "

So now....its up to you. If you decide to stay among us....dont be masochist & self destructive cause its no way...be positive, think positive, act in a positive way.

"...I am afraid. Thats what I think my biggest problem is. I am afraid of becoming old and dependant on others. I think thats what I am trying to escape in GW...."

"...Kierkegaard saw rationality as a mechanism humans use to counter their existential anxiety, their fear of being in the world. "If I can believe that I am rational and everyone else is rational then I have nothing to fear and no reason to feel anxious about being free."..."

You are not alone dude, we all have to face the same fear. According to Boudhism - which is not a religion but a philosophy - we have to get rid off this feeling. It is an everydays fight. Enlight yourself, enlight your spirit/soul.

And take it easy, accept yourself as you are. try to improve yourself cause you deserve it. You are 20 man come on, move your fatass

Keep on reading books, which are the best food for the mind

Again I give you the link of Henri Michaux quotes. this is a brilliant poet.

http://www.littlebluelight.com/lblph...es.php?ikey=19

" While circulating through my accursed body, I came to a region where the parts of myself were few and far between; to live there, you had to be a saint. In times gone by, I had aspired to sainthood, but now that illness was forcing me into it, I struggled against it and I still struggle, and it’s obvious that I’m not going to survive like this. If I had been given the opportunity, fine! but to be forced into it - no, I just can’t stand it." - A Saint - Night Moves -

GW is an awesome game, I praise the devs for their creativity & their global game philosophy, I will buy GW² & I hope to be able to play GW when I am 99.......

Who knows ???? Maybe you will transmit your characters to your daughter or your son.....who will then transmit them to their kids...etc...ALL IS POSSIBLE....just make it happen.

Good game, have fun & keep on truckin

your post is interesting but I dont understand alot of it.

I didnt know soren kirkegaard was such a well known dude. wow.

allience · Sep 06, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

seek help from god. imo most emotional problems can by solved by god and some praying.

The Herbalizer · Sep 07, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Wow this is only a computer game. I couldnt care less that all my stuff eventually gets wiped.

Zinger314 · Sep 07, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by allience

seek help from god. imo most emotional problems can by solved by god and some praying.

God is too busy playing Halo 3.

A11Eur0 · Sep 07, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by allience

seek help from god. imo most emotional problems can by solved by god and some praying.

i.e. lie to yourself to make the coming end seem more bearable.

I do just fine without any "faith" in some man-made diety.

Stop searching for attention and acceptance in an online game. LEAVE THE HOUSE, go out and exercise, get a dog and play frisbee catch, go swimming, get some real friends and hang out. All it takes is willpower, and that's something everyone can tap and utilize...nothing is holding you back.

jeevesey · Sep 07, 2007, 05:17 AM // 05:17

GW2 would of had to come out eventually, it's not coming out until another year or so anyway. But it is only a game, and arenanet aren't all technology technology technology they are releasing a sequel for money, you can't blame them they are a company after all.

When GW2 does come out though the majority of players probably will leave GW for GW2. But don't get upset because it's ending, it's a game not a substitute for life, if a sequel was never released it would be left behind and in years to come people will just leave because the game will become old and outdated.

A sequel is a fresh start, people will make new characters to get attached to and spend a massive amount of time kitting them out and making them unique. But if when released GW2 is crap then people will stay with the original in which case you'll be fine. But people will go to whichever game is better.

In short (i waffled quite a bit then): Wait for GW2 to be released, you may like it more. Don't use a game as a substitute for real life, it's not designed for that which is why you're crying over the time when people will leave the game you love.

Redfeather1975 · Sep 07, 2007, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Just play the game every once in a while to have fun.
Don't think of games as a long term investment, a second life. It will only cause more and more problems in your real life.
If you really are addicted, it can be hard to stop, but you have to try.

I used to think this picture was funny.

But it's not. A lot of people think video game addiction is a very serious issue.

terethan · Sep 07, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56

I think OP is not crazy at all, I do believe many of the rank 11+ hero have the exact same feeling about GW2 but they won't speak out. They have spent so much on GW but all of a sudden friends who play with them are gone, that is sad. Apparently most of you who ban OP may not even have 1000 hours of play, so you won't understand how people who spent so much feel. Indulging in virtual life is nothing wrong, people seek satisfication in various way: car, women, money... virtual life is just one of the options. People you meet are REAL, they are not virtual, communications are there.

To OP: I had 4000 hours play last year then I decided to sell my account, because I know every game will eventually die, and it is not worth spending so much time on a game that will make me sad. If you feel depressed with a new sequel, then you shouldn't play online games, I suggest you to play a single play game to truly enjoy a game.

Superdarth · Sep 07, 2007, 08:25 AM // 08:25

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

What about Everquest? Aint that game 11 years old? and doesnt it have 400 subscripers?

Or ultima online? or even some of the old MUDs?

Starcraft and counter-strike are both almost 10 years old now. WoW is 3 and its still getting bigger.

Diablo 2 is still incredible massive... despite the hacking, duping and all that - on gamefaqs.com its forums activity is much bigger than most other games, including gw - but to be fair, GWs fanbase might be spread thin over 4-5 different products with their own individual forums!

im still surprised and shocked to why... why GW2 so soon? I honestly thought that they would make something like 11 campaigns at least with gw1.

Guild wars dousnt lend itself to years of activity. If you compare the expansions we have now youl find many, many similarities. And while the games are realy great they cant entertain people for long, especially since, unlike other MMO's, Guild Wars has an ending.

But yeah MMO's can reach an age well over 10 years but i wouldnt say they are actively played by alot of people when compared to other games, and are just about on the verge of death, but then i dont define an MMO as dead when it shuts down, but when people lose intrest and only a handfull of people remain.

But im not sure what it is youre after tbh..you certainly cant make youreself immortal by grand achievements in a video game, odds are youl outlast the game. However, im sure i dont need to tell you this but you can take youre achievements into GW2 to some extend using the HoM, thats already quite sompthing.

Government Flu · Sep 07, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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im still surprised and shocked to why... why GW2 so soon? I honestly thought that they would make something like 11 campaigns at least with gw1.

To make more money. While ArenaNet has other games like City of Heroes that require a monthly fee, Guild Wars has free online access after you pay the initial installation price. Therefore to keep competitive with the other products NCsoft has to offer, the team working on Guild Wars needs to constantly be making new games in short periods of time.

If Guild Wars ever seriously wanes in popularity or the game runs out of fresh ideas, ArenaNet will scrap the entire series and never make another campaign, expansion, or sequel again because the profit margin will no longer be impressive enough.

Also, how can you be reassured when on your deathbed by a character in an online video game? Even assuming that the GW servers went on ad infitum, who would know your online character ever even existed?

Your friends would move on, and your account would remain inactive.

There's no point.

There is no immortality if no one knows about it. Also, refer to my initial post many pages back. Like I said, life is more important than a video game, and you should strive to better yourself there first.

Oh, and by the way, another one of your posts said that real life is boring because you can't use swords and the like but...you can. There are "Real Life RPGs" out there where people dress up and go to the woods and do all kinds of role play related activities.

I don't really know much about it...I just saw a special on Xplay a few years back. Also, watching the History Channel a long time ago, I came across an hour long special describing ancient weapons, where a sword instructor would occasionally pop in to tell the viewer about the art and technicalities behind such weapons.

So that right there is another activity you can do to make your life more fulfilling. Take a class that trains in medieval warfare. You'll be able to learn how to use a sword, you'll wear actual armor, and you'll even get a chance to spar with other students.

I've no idea where you can find either of these two suggestions since I've never taken an interest; the research is up to you.

Elruid · Sep 07, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Good troll.
(/seekhelp)

quickmonty · Sep 07, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

WTF? I can't believe there are actually 8 pages of this tripe (yeah ... I know .... I'm just adding to it)

This should be a blog, not a thread on a GW fansite.