Curse

Terra Xin · Sep 24, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by OI-812

I don't see the point in leaving if you have a leaver in your team. Stay in the game, and there's a small chance you might get a little Balth faction. At the very least, the other guys will get a little. And you might have fun. OMFG, you might have FUN in a competitive setting! What an alien concept!

I won't leave if it's 3 ppl, you can still be competitive. RA is for people to chill out and have a few good matches, I think we can agree on that.

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

lol Terra you sound like you're gonna cry, want a tissue?

I'm trying to help you here, but lets just take a step back and recognize that firstly, this is a 'written' forum, not spoken. Unless you have voices in your head telling you otherwise (there's medication for that, too.) I don't think you read my post, which is sad for you, but confirms my assumptions.

X Cytherea X · Sep 24, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

well when i read others' posts i imagine their voice in my head and yours was that of an effeminate pansy-ass

EDIT: saw your edit, and let me give you a simple analogy. you're like an 8 year old who cries and moans while plugging your ears cuz you're afraid to get owned by the retort. i simply lock the door from the beginning and mind my own business. i hope your feeble mind can comprehend that.

EDIT2: well, im off to farm glad points in RA, hope to get flames that are less weak when i return.

L-I-E-S · Sep 24, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Stop making these threads, nobody cares. Leave if you want, stay if you want. Winning 3 vs. 4 just means you beat a dumbass team or they had no healers and you had a good healer. Nothing more, nothing less.

Profession? Warrior. Enough said.

Terra Xin · Sep 25, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

EDIT: saw your edit, and let me give you a simple analogy. you're like an 8 year old who cries and moans while plugging your ears cuz you're afraid to get owned by the retort. i simply lock the door from the beginning and mind my own business. i hope your feeble mind can comprehend that.

EDIT2: well, im off to farm glad points in RA, hope to get flames that are less weak when i return.

You're quite adamant on your inability not to read, so I'll repeat for a third time what I said in my original post:

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Originally Posted by Terra Xin

I never said I would have a heart attack, I said I don't care what they have to say. DnD just makes it easier for me not to bother with them.

I hope that you improve yourself with your lack of reading capability, its quite shocking.

lacasner · Sep 25, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

well, im off to farm glad points in RA, hope to get flames that are less weak when i return.

Hopefully this RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bullshit will soon be changed and glad points will only be available in TA like they were supposed to.

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Stop making these threads, nobody cares. Leave if you want, stay if you want. Winning 3 vs. 4 just means you beat a dumbass team or they had no healers and you had a good healer. Nothing more, nothing less.

./signed

Master Ketsu · Sep 25, 2007, 04:08 AM // 04:08

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glad points will only be available in TA like they were supposed to.

/agreeeeeeed

X Cytherea X · Sep 25, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09

keep telling yourself that, fruitcake (Terra)

and ta-only glad points aint gonna happen; anet needs ra grinders playing their game.

the most that can happen is a shorter streak requirement for ra and maybe bonus points for ta

penalizing leavers aint gonna happen either, cuz it would spawn a whole new wave of leeroys (to get to the next game faster) and griefers (to force you to quit and get penalized)

Cammy · Sep 25, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

Because warrior#1 was a was a typical healing hands/riposte w/mo scrub.
warrior#2 was a default skill scrub ( W/nothing charge as elite , sever, ect. no runes. )
ele was an earthtank ( and a bad one too. Bad build + bad player = F T L )
necro was N/E firestorm/lightning strike/ETHER PRODIGY ( WTF ?!?! )... need i say more ?

Everything you shouldn't bring into RA.

Don't get mad when people rage.

Honestly, the reason why better players like cytherea rage is because the majority of people are PVE who are too lazy to learn a new style of play. Even if it's only a semi-decent resource for higher level pvp, if you plan on RAing please look up some builds on pvxwiki. If people can learn to do what they're supposed to, stuff explodes and monks are happy and nobody leaves.

Ivan Aidrann · Sep 25, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

I do stay yes, I mostly play monk in ra.

Most ppl leave after one person does, thats when i get the most excited

I give the opposing team exactly 3 minutes to try to kill me, waiting to see what they do. Do they leave because they cant kill me? or do they stay and try their best? If after 3 mins they are still fighting, i leave aswell

Cammy · Sep 25, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

btw cytherea sync with me sometime

I am gud frenzy monk

Shuuda · Sep 25, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Ya know Terrra Xin, I don't like being really think I should be called a chicken for having a more complex view on the subject that 90% of peoples "all leaverz r teh nubz" bullshit. Gladiator point farmers who leave then they don't see a monk, sure they suck and should be scorn, but you can't say people are bad for not want to play with a disadvantage.

All these topics about whether leaving is right are all total crud, leaving is acceptable under certain conditions, end of story really.

/request lock before the flamefest goes too far.

dancing gnome · Sep 25, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30

I stay but I shouldn't have to deal with this problem anyway. And RA people are DEFFINITLY not getting dumber, I've seen some royally stupid things done in RA indicating that the stupidity has always scaled to the lowest denominator.

bungusmaximus · Sep 25, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Ya know Terrra Xin, I don't like being really think I should be called a chicken for having a more complex view on the subject that 90% of peoples "all leaverz r teh nubz" bullshit. Gladiator point farmers who leave then they don't see a monk, sure they suck and should be scorn, but you can't say people are bad for not want to play with a disadvantage.

All these topics about whether leaving is right are all total crud, leaving is acceptable under certain conditions, end of story really.

/request lock before the flamefest goes too far.

Agreed with you in a way, but I think there's still something wrong if you got a spare half hour and you want to jump in for some quick play and you don't get to play because over half of the matches is unplayable to begin with. It's lame for people that don't farm and want to have quick fun.

Hard core PvP farmers CAN go to TA or HA or w/e, but casual players can't go there because they get stomped. When I started out PvP-ing I usually played AB, that's a nice casual format without leavers and the leeching problem is pretty exaggerated imo. I always thought of RA as pointless and frustrating.

X Cytherea X · Sep 25, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

cammy, if by frenzy you mean frenzied defense.. maybe i will, lol (quite a dodgy skill, but helps sometimes)

Terra Xin · Sep 25, 2007, 03:15 PM // 15:15

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Ya know Terrra Xin, I don't really think I should be called a chicken for having a more complex view on the subject that 90% of peoples "all leaverz r teh nubz" bullshit. Gladiator point farmers who leave then they don't see a monk, sure they suck and should be scorn, but you can't say people are bad for not want to play with a disadvantage.

All these topics about whether leaving is right are all total crud, leaving is acceptable under certain conditions, end of story really.

/request lock before the flamefest goes too far.

Quote me on where you think I said that and I might be able to respond, thanks.

I don't think you are thinking your posts through accurately enough, you say that leavers should be scorned, but then you say they shouldn't be?

You need to think this through, a person will leave their group based on a 5 second assumption that the team that they are pitted with is going to suck, and will leave which puts their own team at a disadvantage - contradicting what you just said, saying that leaving should be allowed in 'some' cases - it's just not true. Anyone who spends that amount of time using no experience and ALL assumptions is exactly the type of people that deserve every punishment that they have been grieving onto other players.

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Agreed with you in a way, but I think there's still something wrong if you got a spare half hour and you want to jump in for some quick play and you don't get to play because over half of the matches is unplayable to begin with. It's lame for people that don't farm and want to have quick fun.

Hard core PvP farmers CAN go to TA or HA or w/e, but casual players can't go there because they get stomped. When I started out PvP-ing I usually played AB, that's a nice casual format without leavers and the leeching problem is pretty exaggerated imo. I always thought of RA as pointless and frustrating.

And that's the whole problem in RA. People who treat their parties with grief in order to farm for a title, it's a wonder how these people live their day... It's not a life's achievement, but if you're gonna walk over others to get it, I feel sorry for them.

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

penalizing leavers aint gonna happen either, cuz it would spawn a whole new wave of leeroys (to get to the next game faster) and griefers (to force you to quit and get penalized)

...Sucks to be you.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_Scott

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Originally Posted by Ryan Scott

Also, we're going to be implementing a "Deserter" style system that punishes leavers in random formats with PvP downtime. This will only be applied to the problem areas, so TA, HA, and GvG players will not have to worry much about this. That being said, since we're disallowing players to leave and join repeatedly to get a team capable of 10 wins in RA, we felt we needed to take the cap down. These changes will go hand-in-hand.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that we're also adding mechanics for punishing leechers and a time limit on RA/TA games to stop runners.

And it's spelled - 'grievers.' You're getting there, I can see it!

Shuuda · Sep 25, 2007, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by Terra Xin

Quote me on where you think I said that and I might be able to respond, thanks.

I don't think you are thinking your posts through accurately enough, you say that leavers should be scorned, but then you say they shouldn't be?

You need to think this through, a person will leave their group based on a 5 second assumption that the team that they are pitted with is going to suck, and will leave which puts their own team at a disadvantage - contradicting what you just said, saying that leaving should be allowed in 'some' cases - it's just not true. Anyone who spends that amount of time using no experience and ALL assumptions is exactly the type of people that deserve every punishment that they have been grieving onto other players.

Your not looking deep enough into the subject, what I am saying is that there are certain times when leaving is acceptable.

Leaving because:

-No monk
-No Heal Rit
-Two monks
-Other proffession you may think suck.

Is clearly wrong, and are the usual reasons of a gladiator point farmer.

However, if you leave because of:

-Real life issue.
-disadvantages.
-Immature teammates.
-A mistake in your build (Wrong skills or attriubes)

Can be justified. And I see little wrong with leaving at the end of a match, since you team will get a replacement.

I hope that has cleared up my opinion for you people.

Oh, and when you quoted me the title was "Posted by Chicken FTW" Which I assumed you were refering to me as a small, tasty bird.

Terra Xin · Sep 25, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23

:S, crap. There's a user named "Chicken FTW" on that page of the thread, I must've misquoted you and added his name instead of yours. I'm really sorry for the mistake. I was going to reply to his then decided against it. (Chainging now)

Anyway, yeah I see what you mean, thanks for clearing that up. My gripe and major focus is with leavers who desert their groups before the match starts, btw.

X Cytherea X · Sep 25, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

blah blah blah a bunch of proposals and speculation. ive seen that page; it's been around for months and still nothing's happened. looks like this "Ryan Scott" aint such a big man at Anet. and it's a frickin wiki, anyone can post shit.. not much different from this here forum, full of crying babies

p.s. i hate quibbling about spelling but ctrl-f "griefer" in that same page you linked; it appears many times.

bhavv · Sep 25, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

I left an RA match earlier after a warrior on my team used healing breeze.

It was followed up by insults and death threats against my family by the wammo.

I quit RA now.

btw I'm currently playing this:

[skill]fragility[/skill][skill]shrinking armor[/skill][skill]accumulated pain[/skill][skill]shatter delusions[/skill][skill]virulence[/skill][skill]spiritual pain[/skill][skill]unnatural signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

X Cytherea X · Sep 25, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54

no dude, stay. your build is alright, though lacking utility. screw the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin wammo