Sep 28, 2007, 05:00 AM // 05:00
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#81
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai
Ok, this Dishonorable shit is horrible.
Reasons why:
1, Bad people on your team - you can not leave.
2, Your team will obviously lose - you can not leave.
3, 10 Seconds of waiting at the end of every match - which you can not leave from.
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Players who leave a PvP match prematurely will receive 5 dishonor points.
If the match ends, you can leave.
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:00 AM // 05:00
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#82
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Guild: Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]
Profession: Mo/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai
Ok, this Dishonorable shit is horrible.
Reasons why:
1, Bad people on your team - you can not leave.
2, Your team will obviously lose - you can not leave.
3, 10 Seconds of waiting at the end of every match - which you can not leave from.
So; if you also agree this system is terrible, do this:
Make a PvP Only Monk
Equip 5 Superior Runes
Run this bar: [Dishonor;OwUTEsGD3QkLBEAAAAAAAAA]
If enough people do this; clearly they need to have the report feature accept reports on people being terrible at this game.
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i already started 55ing today to make my pt to ppl. lol, makes ppl so pissed, but at least it feels good to make them suffer TOO.
u can always feign being a stupid nub pver though =D. since half of the ppl in ra actually are...
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:02 AM // 05:02
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#83
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Guild: Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]
Profession: Mo/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManMadeGod
Players who leave a PvP match prematurely will receive 5 dishonor points.
If the match ends, you can leave.
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gods frikkin ... man, thats the entire pt.
IF the match E N D S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sry for double posting, plz dont /report me =(
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05
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#84
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So Serious...
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Guild: Nerfs Are [WHAK]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai
So; if you also agree this system is terrible, do this:
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Can't you think of anything more constructive and beneficial? It's a bit like saying "I don't like the voting system in my country so I'm going to spam them with this and that" ... do you think it's a mature behavior? Can't you put your creative thinking to work on how to correct the report feature? Propose corrections or additions?
Anyone on this thread should ask himself (I mean, past the 20s of "I feel that this /report feature going to turn bad" or the "this won't solve my problems and I don't care about the rest of the world" ...) what he can do to make this work, rather than what the community should do to make it fail.
I'm sure Anet's decision to introduce this feature has been difficult and thought out well, but then there's so much they can do to suggest to the community to self-moderate itself. One has the right to disagree, but one should wait until the feature is used to start demeaning this idea. The potential of this feature will only be unlocked by the community, so it's a huge test for us (well for you since I'm not PvPing yet ) and an answer to a concern expressed here many many times (it should be a lesson to those that believe that Anet is not listening ... but I digress).
Last edited by Fril Estelin; Sep 28, 2007 at 05:09 AM // 05:09..
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09
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#85
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Delphian Scribe
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Holland
Guild: No guild ;_;
Profession: N/Me
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Love the update not much of a pvp player so dont really care about that one thing but yeah being able to get some extra bonuses even when rank 8+ is nice.
Great Job A-net
oh wait... about that HoS CR... did it enough times today to get some stuff for all my classes haha!
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:11 AM // 05:11
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#86
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South East England
Guild: Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP]
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkGanni
Yay the 12yr old kids have a new toy to play with ingame you call them noob and: /report You called me noob I'll tell my internet mommy. As already been said it will be abused especially in PvE.
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I concur, and now I'm going to have to be extra careful about what I say to people. Someone might be in a bad mood, not like the way you talk to them and then you get penalised. I only play PvE and this worries me, because so many immature teenagers play Guild Wars. The rules regarding this new emote need to be clearly stated.
Last edited by Midnight Harmony; Sep 28, 2007 at 05:17 AM // 05:17..
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:16 AM // 05:16
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#87
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Wilds Pathfinder
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You know, if you quit repetedly in RA then you desrve this seriously, grow up, it's called RA, not randomly quit every 5 seconds hoping for the perfect team arena. You get what you deserve.
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:19 AM // 05:19
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#88
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Spectra Sg [SpcA]
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoldyRiceFrenzy
gods frikkin ... man, thats the entire pt.
IF the match E N D S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sry for double posting, plz dont /report me =(
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/resign and get team mates to do the same if it's really that obvious you won't win?
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:32 AM // 05:32
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#89
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Nice update. This should help AB leeching, RA leavers and TA 4-monk griefers.
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You can't report the other team
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:35 AM // 05:35
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#90
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: EU
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Your too late BAKA anet i already exploited cold as ice bwahahaha!!!!!
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:36 AM // 05:36
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#91
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Actually there was mention of being able to report players that prolong the match for ever, so if you run into one of those invincible rangers or what ever that just keep avoiding everyone you can report them.
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42
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#92
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: N/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai
Ok, this Dishonorable shit is horrible.
Reasons why:
1, Bad people on your team - you can not leave.
2, Your team will obviously lose - you can not leave.
3, 10 Seconds of waiting at the end of every match - which you can not leave from.
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They do this and abso-F U C King-lutely nothing about guild teams in RA (low level in particular, which I used to enjoy).
Now, I can handle the death-leveled pets and the max weapons/armor nonsense. But if you allow a group of four guildies to go up against a RANDOM group of players, the built team will get to suck on faction indefinitely. It completely ruins the experience for anyone new to the game and it's a goddamn nuisance to anyone wanting a remotely fair game.
How hard would it be to disallow players joining a game with the same guild tag in RA?! Ugh.
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:43 AM // 05:43
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#93
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Academy Page
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Colorado
Guild: Eva Champloo [EvaC]
Profession: W/Mo
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This sucks. A lot. So here I am not knowing about this new update so I leave my team because the 4th didn't load. Now I'm stuck unable to play for over 60minutes? WHY AM I NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY A GAME I PAYED FOR?
This is ridiculous. I am not a leaver/griefer, so why am I being punished so HUGELY. This system is broken. What happens when I play my monk and I get stuck with 2 other or even 1 other monk? Then you're royally screwed. Either leave to get a real team or sit it out. If you leave, you can't play anymore! If you sit it out for 8 minutes, well obviously it's a big WASTE OF TIME.
Leavers were not that big of a problem. If it happend, you hit F12, log out, relog in and go on again. It really wasn't that big of a deal. It is the nature of random arenas. But now, if you have a really crappy team, you're stuck.
This on top of the Glad Point carebare BS. I was working my butt off to get glad rank 3, I was 15 points from it. So much frustration to get that high, and now its easier than stealing candy from a baby.
I feel like some freedom was taken away. If I have to leave really fast to do something and then I come back in like half an hour I'm effed. If I made a mistake on my skill/armor load out I'm EFFED. LEAVE THE CHOICE TO THE GAMER TO DO WHAT HE WANTS, BUT DO NOT PUNISH HIM.
Thanks for the slap in the face A-net, stop supporting the game now because all you're doing is ruining what *used* to be the best PvP game.
And btw, I have 1mil+ faction so I know what the feck I'm talking about.
EDIT: The time remaining instead of elapsed is the only good thing to come of this. I can't tell you how many games that have gone on for over an hour because of idiots running away.
Last edited by Horuku; Sep 28, 2007 at 05:49 AM // 05:49..
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:43 AM // 05:43
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#94
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Ninja Unveiler
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Louisiana, USA
Guild: Boston Guild[BG]
Profession: W/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Veripare
/report X Ninja Killa X HE SHOT JOHN LENNON!!!1
...I really do think the report system won't last past the 30th IMO.
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The abuse depends on how ANET takes action on a report. Is it immediate or is it done after a number of reports from others? Does it not make sense and should be ignored? Or is it genuine?
There are a lot of questions that should be answered about the feature. But making a spoof report might just get that person in trouble for abusing the system.
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50
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#95
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Uhhh genious least how I read that you shouldn't be banned for 60 minuets, only banned if you've left more then once. You need to quit twice and then it's a 10 minute ban first time.
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52
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#96
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Wark!!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Florida
Profession: W/
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Horuku:
Quote:
* Any account that has accumulated 10 or more dishonor points is given the Dishonorable status, which is displayed as a buff icon on screen. While affected by this status, no characters present on that account may enter any PvP missions.
* The Dishonorable status remains in effect for 1 minute for each accumulated dishonor point. This status cannot be removed by logging out or changing characters.
* When the duration of the Dishonorable status has expired, characters on that account may once again join PvP missions.
* Dishonor points will remain on the player's account for a total of 60 minutes. If further dishonor points are acquired during this period, that account is once again given the Dishonorable status, though for a longer period of time.
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You had to do something more than quit once if you were banned from playing for 60 minutes. In fact you had to do quite a lot more than leaving once.
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Sep 28, 2007, 05:58 AM // 05:58
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#97
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Utopia
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The /report system appears flawed. (OMG, he said something bad about Guild Wars, ban the WoW-fanboy!)
Punishing people who falsely report get these Dishonor points? And you need 1/3 of group to achieve it? (Note to ArenaNet; You can't take 1/3 of 4 or 8 evenly)
So that's 2 players in a RA match and 3 players in a FA match. If that many people on your team is spending that much time reporting, your team has bigger problems than leechers. And, of course, when someone gets punished for correctly reporting a leecher, but since no one else reports the leecher, there will be mass whining.
Also, I can't wait to see the 4 man AB guild group who reports everyone.
I'd offer a comparison to WoW's reporting system...but I'd be flamed mercilessly for even suggesting it.
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Yeah this is what I started thinking about. Not everyone in Guild Wars is a saint (I'm sure not) and I see this feature getting BADLY abused. I mean I remember people saying "I'm gonna report you lieing to me about your skillbar!" Those we're normally the people who dind't know about how to e-mail Anet in the first place. Now thanks to this new feature people are gonna love cracking down on peeps In game...
I feel bad for the people on the recieving end of these things.
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Sep 28, 2007, 06:05 AM // 06:05
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#98
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Well it depends on how strongly they enforce and watch abuse. Heh be funny if within a week a few thousand people are temp banned for false reporting..:> Remember they log EVERYTHING, if you file a report, they will probably check on it, especially if you do it repeatedly, or someone challenges it.
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Sep 28, 2007, 06:05 AM // 06:05
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#99
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CA
Guild: [Ryuk]
Profession: W/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
Can't you think of anything more constructive and beneficial? It's a bit like saying "I don't like the voting system in my country so I'm going to spam them with this and that" ... do you think it's a mature behavior? Can't you put your creative thinking to work on how to correct the report feature? Propose corrections or additions?
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I suppose strikes, and rebellions which created the country you lived in were not constructive or beneficial either.
And heres my corrections or additions for the entire system: Remove it - or allow people to be reported for being bad at this game.
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Sep 28, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16
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#100
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, TX
Profession: W/R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai
I suppose strikes, and rebellions which created the country you lived in were not constructive or beneficial either.
And heres my corrections or additions for the entire system: Remove it - or allow people to be reported for being bad at this game.
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If you're that elite then maybe you should go play Shadowbane or Fury for an RPG-PvP experience, or go play a real twitch-based PvP game. GW isn't an elite, restrictive game. In fact, you can stick to TA, HA, and GvG if you want to restrict who you play with based on their play. If you can't get a team together of people you play with then maybe they are the same ones that would report you for bad play if the feature existed :-)
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