Curse

Saphrium · Oct 12, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by SpeedyG99

You're over reacting, your a harcore player who just gets annoyed at any other player who doesn't understand every in and out of the game, if everything doesnt go perfectly you get angry..because its ruining what you think is your life, no offense but i've seen people like this , not you in particular, but yes i've seen them, stop being so serious about it..its just a game

I know what you mean, and also agree with you on this particular point, that this is just a game, nothing to be too serious about.

But I think the core issue for me, if I may also speak for others, is that many of these "casual players" would place their ignorance and lack of courtesy on top of this logic, for example, mentalities like "I don't need to listen to a more experienced player because this is just a game", "Even though you have been playing longer and how this mission goes or ends, I don't like to place a skill that helps better with the team as a courtesy to others because this is just a game." That sense of "ignorance justified by casualness" is the most annoying to those who are more involved in the game, i guess.

Trelliz · Oct 12, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

The worst thing i've seen is PUG warriors getting angry at the monks when they drop below 90% HP ever, with miss-spelled cries of "hleal n00b mink". I don't monk, mainly for that reason, that even though i'm trying to keep the group alive, they still have a go at you. unfortunately

even if they don't complain, despite repeated explainations of why running into a group of mursaat without infused armour is less that a brilliant idea, they freakin' do it anyway!

Either that or drawing genitals on the minimap, that pisses me off too.

Dallcingi · Oct 13, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

Its not GW u hate but the ppl that play it..

«Ripskin · Oct 13, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

yet another reason for 7 heros...sigh...

This is my only real annoyance in guild wars.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO GROUP WITH IGNORANT PUGS, THEY ARE TERRIBLE!

QUIT MAKING US SUFFER

Give us 7 heros O.o

Mineria · Oct 13, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

This is my only real annoyance in guild wars.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO GROUP WITH IGNORANT PUGS, THEY ARE TERRIBLE!

QUIT MAKING US SUFFER

Give us 7 heros O.o

Party up with all the others that got the same feelings about pug's?

Digital Packrat · Oct 14, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

The OP's hate and frustration are targeted and the wrong entity, he should be mad at the designers not the player.

After all it is they who have nerf so many skills that the majority are useless. It is they that have made areas so hard that only specific skills and classes are ever wanted/needed for the highest marjin of success.

It is because of this players are being made to make other players ping their skill bar before they would be allowed to join groups. Or as in the OP's post make players stoop so low as to have to make a fake skill bar just so they can join the groups and revert back to a skill set they are more comfortable with.

Now with everyone requiring everyone to ping their skills bars just to join a pug it makes joining groups both intrusive, offending, and make the pug element of the game just flat out undesirable by more and more. This is exacerbated when after sending your skill set you are told something like "you don't know what you are doing using that set of skills, change them to this or you don't go", or just flat out told no after they have seen your set, or called names like noob etc...

It is not real hard to figure out why far, far, more players want seven heroes than not, as most of us don't want to put up with this kind of BS.

What it really boils down to is it is not the advent of heroes that is killing humans joining human groups it is the perpetual string of bad decisions being made by the game designers, thus it is they whom with out question deserve your hate and flustration not anyone else.

So remember this the next time you start to get mad at another player because he is not using the skills you think he should, will not ping his skill set for refuses to join your group.

I agree. I think that it is terribly rigid that there are so few choices of good skills to take on certain missions, and I do believe that much of that has to do with nerfing. There is simply no room for creativity anymore.

For example, before the soul reap nerf, the Necro with only ele skills in his bar was an excellent and strong combo, able to cast and continue casting long after the ele next to him had packed it in. Usually, you were instantly kicked for such a build, but sometimes you could convince others that it was ok. Or, you could change your skill bar at the last minute and then during play, people could see what an asset you were.

But because of nerfing, this type of build has gone out the window. And because of nerfing, there are fewer skills to choose from that are the accepted standard. Only ‘cookie cutter’ builds are ok.

Also, I don’t think its right to have to ping our builds when we come up with a unique one that we’d like to keep under wraps for a while.

Now if some guy is doing something bad on purpose to throw the mission off for their own selfish reasons, like becoming a 55 at the last minute, that’s one thing. It’s definitely no good. I agree with this. But a person doesn’t need a set of bad skills if they want to maliciously throw off a mission.

Also, if someone isn’t willing to go along with the team and listen when the leader says, such as, “Don’t use that skill on these enemies, because we don’t want to agro them right now,” that’s another thing that isn’t so good. So you don’t have to agro the group with that skill, then. Not everyone is an idiot player. However, what’s wrong with being allowed to take it along if you know how to use it wisely?

There is a fine line between the people that have a skill bar with ‘non-cookie cutter’ builds that know how to use them and those that don’t. Sadly, those that do are never given a chance because of the bar ping/kick system, which I find elitist and rude.

Even worse, successful unique builds are now much farther and fewer between due to so much nerfing that people are especially distrustful of something new.

I think that Cobalt has a valid point.

Voltar · Oct 14, 2007, 02:36 AM // 02:36

By the title i thought this would be a discussion about the lack of entertainment value of plowing through endless yard trash or the Johnny-One-Note feel of an 8-skill bar.

Why would you hate GW because someone's an asshole? That doesn't even make sense.