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King Deviant · Oct 12, 2007, 05:49 AM // 05:49

Where is all the Hard Mode players? I unlocked hard mode last night and find it great that every monster in the game drops no less than 100 gold practically and the drops are ALOT better than normal, but its hard for most to play through it by themselves and was just wondering if there is a regular group of people around here that go on hard mode on prophecies and does missions or hunting or anything?

Oh and another question i have is does HM also add better drops to chests?

Effendi Westland · Oct 12, 2007, 06:34 AM // 06:34

They all completed vanguishing and getting guardian title between when HM was released and when GW:EN came out.

Because of the effort involved very few people aspire to do it on more then one character.

Esan · Oct 12, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Most hard mode players are in the big PvE guilds. Try the PvE guild recruiting forum. Just the other day I saw big names like Servants of Fortuna [SoF] posting recruiting messages, which means that the heretofore closed guilds are opening up again.

A11Eur0 · Oct 12, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Yes, you have the chance of elite tomes from chests, as well as gold runes and max damage(but unfortunately high) req gold weapons...i guess high req = better in Anet's eyes.

Higher level area, higher level chests, yield higher level drops all around. I'd be pissed to open a locked chest in old ascalon and find an old-ascalon level drop.

Linksys · Oct 12, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

I also find it really hard to find a HM pick up group with the purpose of doing a mission or vanquishing an area. But if you find a guild focused on that, you're good to go.

Cebe · Oct 12, 2007, 12:38 PM // 12:38

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Originally Posted by King Deviant

Where is all the Hard Mode players? I unlocked hard mode last night and find it great that every monster in the game drops no less than 100 gold practically and the drops are ALOT better than normal, but its hard for most to play through it by themselves and was just wondering if there is a regular group of people around here that go on hard mode on prophecies and does missions or hunting or anything?

I did a lot of Hard Mode in the first few weeks after it was released...sort of burnt out. It got VERY boring after a little while for me. Recently I finally got around to vanquishing the remaining areas of Cantha, and thought I might go on to do Tyrian Guardian...but...I started that...and got bored again.

Typically I don't look for PuGs to complete Hard Mode with because there are never any around. If I find I have difficulties with certain missions I put the call out amongst friends etc.. and see if anyone can help. Sometimes I see people advertising for a PuG for certain Hard Mode areas on this forum, and if I need the same thing, I'll often sign up.

I've gone off Hard Mode again for now. It'll probably be some time before I feel like doing much more of it. Just gets so samey.

Theus · Oct 12, 2007, 12:46 PM // 12:46

Hard Mode generally lacks fun.

You're pigeonholed into having to take the most efficient builds possible.

The last time I remember having fun was during the first opening week of Hardmode for prophecies,and completeing the first 3 Ascalonian missions with myself and 3 other monks,two of which were smiting/protection or healing hybrids.

It was awesome.

bungusmaximus · Oct 12, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I did a lot of Hard Mode in the first few weeks after it was released...sort of burnt out. It got VERY boring after a little while for me. Recently I finally got around to vanquishing the remaining areas of Cantha, and thought I might go on to do Tyrian Guardian...but...I started that...and got bored again.

Typically I don't look for PuGs to complete Hard Mode with because there are never any around. If I find I have difficulties with certain missions I put the call out amongst friends etc.. and see if anyone can help. Sometimes I see people advertising for a PuG for certain Hard Mode areas on this forum, and if I need the same thing, I'll often sign up.

I've gone off Hard Mode again for now. It'll probably be some time before I feel like doing much more of it. Just gets so samey.

Same here, I'm 1 mission away from canthan guardian (Gyala Hatchery ><) but I just can't get myself to doing it. Noone is grouping and doing the missions alone always feels like a chore. I did the rest with people that replied to a post of mine here on guru. I don't like playing on my toes 100% of the time anyway, if I want to do that I prefer PvP.

Whiskeyjack · Oct 12, 2007, 12:58 PM // 12:58

I only play with guildmates or heroes in HM because the standard of most pug group's is so bad, I wouldn'tbe surprised if a majority of HM players did the same.

cyberjanet · Oct 12, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by Whiskeyjack

I only play with guildmates or heroes in HM because the standard of most pug group's is so bad, I wouldn'tbe surprised if a majority of HM players did the same.

Hear hear. In fact I only play with guildmates, buddies or heroes in Normal Mode for the same reason. To find me in a PUG is a rare thing indeed.

Arya Littlefinger · Oct 12, 2007, 01:37 PM // 13:37

I do hard mode with heroes and hench.

wilebill · Oct 12, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

Heroes and hench can do a lot of it, if you are persistent, have the patience to tinker with your builds, approach each area methodically, and go slow.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10200851 are hero builds by Sab for hard mode that make a good place to start if you happen to have three necromancer heroes. pvxwiki also has a lot of good builds to look at for inspiration.

Etta · Oct 12, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Heroes are ok in HM with the right builds, henchmen on the other hand are not. I have maybe 4-3 missions left to do in each chapter, just can't be bother to get it done anymore.

the_jos · Oct 12, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Hear hear. In fact I only play with guildmates, buddies or heroes in Normal Mode for the same reason. To find me in a PUG is a rare thing indeed.

I also hardly ever play HM with PuG, but that's more because I'm helping guildies get their titles.
When I PuG HM, I only play the missions, don't vanquish with people that are not on friends list (or guild/alliance/friend of guildie).

People still start playing HM regular, but it's not always easy to find them.
You might check the various HM sign-up threads on forums.
Or just wait in an mission outpost till someone gets there that also wants to play HM (party search still works if you have time to wait).
When you meet a decent player, agree on adding each other to friends list and try to play more together.

The other posibility is joining a decent guild with HM focus.
However, be aware that some have limited recruitment or are demanding.
We, for example, don't recruit (except people that are on friends list) to make sure we can provide the quality we want to deliver to our members.
If you want that, check the recruitment forum for guilds that are currently recruiting.

HawkofStorms · Oct 12, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

The thing is, there is no indication of who is in hard mode or not. I mean, a lot of people around you might be in HM, but they will just be H/Hing. The fact that HM can cause "failure" by Death Penalitying out makes doing HM a lot like a mission. Normally, PUGing just to do some quest/kill some stuff isn't a problem, because even if they are terrible, you can res repeatedly and just grind it out.

CHunterX · Oct 12, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Hard Mode added an another unnecessary split to players, stretching the player-base even more thin. Any 'surprise' that you see no one is no surprise at all.

Melody Cross · Oct 12, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Most of HM (all of GWP) is H/Hable. Even in Factions. I was in the same place as the OP when i did prophecies. No guild, no friends list that wanted to PvE. I had no choice but to do it alone. That didn't stop me; it made it a challenge to figure out the best build for each mission.

Factions and NF, I did get guild help for some of the missions. Was lucky enough to finish NF before they nerfed the Mallyx farm, but that may be one you'll need help on. Vizunah is mad easy with two MMs. 3 is a walk in the park. So its not so much finding a guild in the end as finding one or two players who share your interest (and DLing ventrilo or TS server so you can coordinate faster; VOIP makes thing more fun and the runs much smoother). Thats all you need to build a full team, or sync.

Str0b0 · Oct 12, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

I know I solo HM I find no need to split my drops with other players.

King Deviant · Oct 12, 2007, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Thanks guys, i ended up finding a guild with over 80 members that has a good % that do HM!

See you on the field.

Tahlia Tane · Oct 12, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Theus

Hard Mode generally lacks fun.

You're pigeonholed into having to take the most efficient builds possible.

So Hard Mode is not fun because it's hard?

*forehead slap*