Curse

crazy diamond · Nov 11, 2007, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by lakatz

LOL... no... THIS is the picture I painted. Or one of them anyway.

Nice portrait of Freddie Mercury. Though I prefer the mustached version.

lakatz · Nov 11, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

Nice portrait of Freddie Mercury. Though I prefer the mustached version.

LOL... Thanks.

I wonder how the subject of the painting would feel about being compared to Freddie Mercury. You know, now that you mention it, I think FM would have been just devastating if he'd had pale blue eyes as well.

Bryant Again · Nov 12, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

don't tell me wall hugging is hard work, if it is, then starting out from a new map would be as hard as starting to map from 80++% when the title came out and I have 4 of those characters and am painstakingly doing it, one character after another, so don't even attempt to say using texmod is the same effort as doing it my way.

There's nothing challenging about it whatsoever. It's all time. Some have more time than others

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

plus the hardest part is figuring out where the hell you have miss on the map and texmod does that for you,

Not hard, just tedious. I haven't known someone who's able to look at an incomplete map *without referance* and say "Whoop, there's the spot!"

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

much like what aim-bot do from your description, aim - hit, aim - go map it, voila i can do one miss spot in 15 minutes with a runner skills equip. probably less, but i wouldn't know cos i don't have a running character.

First, gl running through an area it's a pain in the ass. It's faster to just get a good hero/hench team and raise hell. Second, about Aimbot, no. A more accurate description is if the carto mod did all the moving for you. It doesn't.

Rhedd · Nov 12, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

Yes, it does cut down a considerably giant amount of work, of not having to repeatedly going from one map to another again and again and again and agian picking up 10 x 0.001% miss area to make up the 0.1% ...

don't tell me wall hugging is hard work, if it is, then starting out from a new map would be as hard as starting to map from 80++% when the title came out and I have 4 of those characters and am painstakingly doing it, one character after another, so don't even attempt to say using texmod is the same effort as doing it my way. plus the hardest part is figuring out where the hell you have miss on the map and texmod does that for you, it tells you where you have miss. much like what aim-bot do from your description, aim - hit, aim - go map it, voila i can do one miss spot in 15 minutes with a runner skills equip. probably less, but i wouldn't know cos i don't have a running character.

You do say one thing that's valid; using Texmod does reduce the amount of tedious, repetitive effort required. I know. I've done Canthan GMC with no mod, and Tyrian with the mod. (Look out, Elona, here I come! ^_^)

The thing is, the mod doesn't actually make anything easier. I will find those last few areas. I will do it by comparing maps, because I'm not a total idiot. I won't give up until I'm finished.

A better in-game map doesn't change any of that.

The hard part (if there is one) is actually going to the areas and mapping them. The difficulty in finding those areas is, in my opinion, an accidental side effect of an interface that was never designed to support serious exploration.

Bryant Again is absolutely right. It's not practical to use a running build to map. You're sure to get caught in some tiny corner, or miss a spot while evading monsters, and if you're lucky enough to avoid that, the teensiest bit of lag will cause the server not to recognize that you just shot by that part of the map, and you might as well have stayed home.

If you could use a running build to map, you could do the same thing without Texmod.

Yes, it may be faster to get a cartographer title these days, but any extra time I spent doing it the old way is not something that I feel is worth bragging about. It was pathetic, really.

They may not be worth a darned thing to a lot of people, but my GMC titles aren't worth any less because people now have a better map interface.

Foul Play Leo · Nov 15, 2007, 11:41 AM // 11:41

Nothing more can be said really that was not said a lot of times.. So I just thank all for there comments Good and Bad on this post for like said befor being one of the makers it shows me that I did not waste my time trying to help out the greater good... For those that don't like it we are not asking you to use it and yea I respect your title alittle more for doing to old way as I have
... Does it matter though not really as long as you enjoy it your self.. Peace to all and have fun !!!!

pamelf · Nov 15, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

ok wait, the OP is angry because there's a mod that makes this game more fun and less like having a job?

Lol.

Amon Warrior · Nov 15, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by pamelf

ok wait, the OP is angry because there's a mod that makes this game more fun and less like having a job?

Lol.

He had a change of heart and even made the sensible suggestion to add this mod into the game so that all could benefit...

pamelf · Nov 15, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by Amon Warrior

He had a change of heart and even made the sensible suggestion to add this mod into the game so that all could benefit...

Ah, I see, didn't read the whole thing. Too many pages.

Shouldn't this be closed then?

Saraphim · Nov 15, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

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Originally Posted by Foul Play Leo

Nothing more can be said really that was not said a lot of times.. So I just thank all for there comments Good and Bad on this post for like said befor being one of the makers it shows me that I did not waste my time trying to help out the greater good... For those that don't like it we are not asking you to use it and yea I respect your title alittle more for doing to old way as I have
... Does it matter though not really as long as you enjoy it your self.. Peace to all and have fun !!!!

Amen.
And also it's a great mod, I'm using it for EotN, which doesn't have the benefit of a % track in your titles (it's included in Master of the North for those who don't know) so it's even more useful there.

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Originally Posted by pamelf

Shouldn't this be closed then?

It'd be nice, this one keeps floating up like a bad smell.

I think people are just wondering whether Gaile will add any more comments.

Mordakai · Nov 15, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by Saraphim

It'd be nice, this one keeps floating up like a bad smell.

I think people are just wondering whether Gaile will add any more comments.

Yep, if anyone's to blame for keeping this thread alive, it's "we will look into it" Gaile..

ChaoticCoyote · Nov 15, 2007, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by pamelf

Ah, I see, didn't read the whole thing. Too many pages.

Shouldn't this be closed then?

Gaile leaped to the defense of the original poster -- who then later change dhis mind. But Gaile is now off on her crusade to save people from having fun by raising the "issue" with her boss...

Thanks god a mini-pet or hat isn't at risk...

Gaile could end this all easily with a SIMPLE and DIRCET statement. Not a long diatribe with sarcastic comments like she's prone to these days, but a CLEAR STATEMENT of what ANet's intentions are in regard to Texmod.

Rhedd · Nov 15, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by ChaoticCoyote

Gaile leaped to the defense of the original poster -- who then later change dhis mind. But Gaile is now off on her crusade to save people from having fun by raising the "issue" with her boss...

Thanks god a mini-pet or hat isn't at risk...

Gaile could end this all easily with a SIMPLE and DIRCET statement. Not a long diatribe with sarcastic comments like she's prone to these days, but a CLEAR STATEMENT of what ANet's intentions are in regard to Texmod.

They've already done that.

Please don't make me run a search for you.

Official acceptance is the only reason I'd ever touch the thing.

sykoone · Nov 15, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Rhedd

They've already done that.

Please don't make me run a search for you.

Official acceptance is the only reason I'd ever touch the thing.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:...cs#CR_response

I ran the search for you.

zzt711 · Nov 15, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52

I THINK IT IS CHEATING.

Most people who reply to this forum are going to be biased thinking thinking that it's a benefit and it helped them get that last 2%. Well you know what, then you did something wrong, skipped something, didn't properly scrape EVERYTHING, etc, TOUGH!

I received my max cartographer titles the hard way... scrape scrape scrape... I even did Prophecies and Factions before the advent of heroes and being able to place your heroes/henchies somewhere with flag. Do people realize hard it was doing it with dumb AI henchies before.

It makes me sick that the cartography titles can be gained so easily now, where before it actually meant something having that title.

Neo Nugget · Nov 15, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

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Originally Posted by zzt711

I THINK IT IS CHEATING.

Most people who reply to this forum are going to be biased thinking thinking that it's a benefit and it helped them get that last 2%. Well you know what, then you did something wrong, skipped something, didn't properly scrape EVERYTHING, etc, TOUGH!

I received my max cartographer titles the hard way... scrape scrape scrape... I even did Prophecies and Factions before the advent of heroes and being able to place your heroes/henchies somewhere with flag. Do people realize hard it was doing it with dumb AI henchies before.

It makes me sick that the cartography titles can be gained so easily now, where before it actually meant something having that title.

I think of it this way, a game is new at say $50, then it drops to $20. Cartography was really hard before (just like games being expensive), and now it's less work ( like a game being less money).

If that makes sense

Karyuu · Nov 16, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00

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Originally Posted by zzt711

I THINK IT IS CHEATING.

Most people who reply to this forum are going to be biased thinking thinking that it's a benefit and it helped them get that last 2%. Well you know what, then you did something wrong, skipped something, didn't properly scrape EVERYTHING, etc, TOUGH!

Is using Photoshop cheating too?

Bryant Again · Nov 16, 2007, 07:03 AM // 07:03

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Originally Posted by zzt711

It makes me sick that the cartography titles can be gained so easily now, where before it actually meant something having that title.

There was no difficulty in the title before the mod was invented. Now it just takes slightly less amount of time and isn't as aggravating.

Zahr Dalsk · Nov 16, 2007, 07:10 AM // 07:10

To the OP... QQ less.

Infinity^ · Nov 16, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

In my view the in-game map was never designed for cartography titles, texmod is what the maps should have been updated to by ANet when these titles were introduced. Please don't try and kid yourself that staring at a blank wall and strafing requires any skill or holds any meaning.

AuraofMana · Nov 16, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

Doing less work to get the same thing is awesome. You can feel unfair all you want, but uhh... let's put it this way:
When people see your Legendary Cartographer, they don't go "WOWZ HE'S SO LEETX0RZ!" They go "Wow he spent a lot of time in a video game >_>"
There is no worth to titles.
Since you like to QQ much, you should go complain about Legendary Guardian and say: "OMG, some ppl can just get other people to run them through the missions, that is completely not fair!" You should try it and see how many people actually care.