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rivanwarder · Nov 16, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Anyways i just bought prophecies off the PlayNC site and was just owndering if anyone could answer a few questions.

1.) If i make a PvP char straight away am i gimping myself in some way? other than a lack of knowledge about gameplay and such

Thats it really I have made both a PvP char and RP char, but i really only like to PvP no PvE. The reason i ask is because i am not new to this style of gameplay i have many other MMO's under my belt.

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies

xReLx · Nov 16, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Go PvE first.

Sha Noran · Nov 17, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Unless you spend the money to unlock skills for yourself from the get-go, you're really going to need to play some PvE to learn the game and to unlock skills.

Tal Deathshade · Nov 17, 2007, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Go play some PvE first. You can get a few skills unlocked at least and learn about the play style before going against other players.

Vinraith · Nov 17, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by rivanwarder

i have many other MMO's under my belt.

This isn't an MMO, and you'll be happier if you don't look at it as one. It bears a closer resemblance to Dungeon Siege, Diablo, and other action RPG's. The towns are just 3d multiplayer lobbies.

As to your question, you'll either need to play some PvE (which I recommend anyway, as GW's skill system is rather different from other games) or try the Zaishen challenges as a PvP intro. The problem is that you're going to be seriously short on skills if you jump straight into PvP. One option, if you don't mind spending more money, would be to buy an unlock pack. You can earn them through PvP achievements, but my understanding is that it's a bit of an uphill battle.

chowmein69 · Nov 17, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

do some pve first cause if you start pvp you wont hav so much skills to use

Redfeather1975 · Nov 17, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

What professions are you playing rivanwarder?

Coridan · Nov 17, 2007, 12:54 AM // 00:54

IMO if you are just truely interested in PVP then go with PVP. You get some standard skills unlocked during creation....then as you earn Balthazar faction points you can unlock further skills.

If you do PVE then switch to PVP you will have a lot of the game mechanics to "unlearn"

look here for some better info

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Player_versus_player

rivanwarder · Nov 17, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

I am an elementalist if that makes a difference, and seeing as the general vibe i get is to do the campaign. How many hours should it take to reach 20 i know it's not long but an estimate would be aprreciated

I can probably play 20 hours a week on this game

I Angra I · Nov 17, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

The only downside to starting a PvP character first is that you won't have access to very many skills. Of course, through PvPing, you'll be able to unlock more and more as you go along.

If PvP is your main reason for buying the game, then focus on PvP. PvE is good for learning the basics, the mechanics of the game and what various skills and such do, but beyond that, it won't teach you much about PvP.

Probably the best thing to do is to play through PvE, while continually PvPing as often as possible at the same time.

Dallcingi · Nov 17, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Ya basically just pve for basic skills, then do all out pvp!! That is what I did.

BohemianKeith · Nov 17, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Definitely start in pve. I suggest you search for some random arena pvp builds and work towards unlocking the necessary skills to try them out and get a good sense of low lvl pvp. Then as your RAing use your points to unlock more skills that you intend to use for other builds you find untill you have a good sense of what you need. Personally, spend your batlh points towards skills and a sup vigor rune then towards item modifiers , as using sup attribute runes is a bad idea most of the time in my opinion.

pumpkin pie · Nov 17, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Ouch! why did you buy prophecies! you should have buy EO:TN and get prophecies at half price..... but thats just my opinion,

I recommend you start some pve, get to know how the skills work, with many mmo under your belt, you should know it very soon and then go to pvp. imho.

believe me its a tough job getting a group in pvp ... people are mostly very prejudice there even if you have many mmo under your belt. words like noob and retard will fly at you unexpectedly.

Ejjman1 · Nov 17, 2007, 03:12 AM // 03:12

I think if you look at some guides, u can do fine in PvP. U'll learn to like PvE tho, its fun

semantic · Nov 17, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

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Originally Posted by rivanwarder

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i have many other MMO's under my belt.

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you must unlearn what you have learned..

different from standard MMO combat GW is..

You've got four slots to play with, so here's a suggestion. Reserve one for PvP and one for trying out and recycling PVE toons. Use the other two for permanent PVE chars to use for unlocking skills and just enjoying the game.

Zahr Dalsk · Nov 17, 2007, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Do PvE first to learn the workings of the game, then move to PvP when you get bored of PvE.

Toutatis · Nov 17, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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I am an elementalist if that makes a difference, and seeing as the general vibe i get is to do the campaign.

The Elementalist is a great start for a new player. It's one of the more straightforward professions to pick up and learn the ropes with. Play through the PvE campaign and you'll find yourself at level 20 in no time if you do all the quests and don't run past any missions.

Also, once a PvE character reaches level 20 they can take part in the PvP section of the game as well. Once you reach a port, you can hop on a ship to the Battle Isles where all the major PvP arenas are.

pumpkin pie · Nov 17, 2007, 03:51 AM // 03:51

PS:

Incase you didn't know about the title yet.

don't die!! or you will not get the survivor title. never ever! unless you don't die or anet change their mind lol. just a reminder.

rivanwarder · Nov 17, 2007, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Thanks to all who have replied so far, one last thing i would like to ask.
So if i had a build in mind and had a reasonable idea of how to play the game would it not be a bad idea to make a PvP char right off? I mean I am ONLY interested in the PvP aspect of this game, if i wanted PvE i would play Lotro or WoW.

So with this faction rep grinding for skills is that an alright way to gain them?

Thanks once again to anyone who replies

pumpkin pie · Nov 17, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

IN MY HUMBLE OPINION

you've bought the wrong pack imho, should have buy the PVP pack if you are only interested in PvP, which give you instant pvp play with all the skills unlocked, now you can't go to HA without having the map on your map, and also skill-less.

you could have bought the pvp pack, go to wiki, read up some build, test your skills at Random arena and go on from there imho. they also have the pvp kit now, read for more info here.