Curse

silv3rr · Nov 19, 2007, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by heavyduty

I notice certain things with veteran pvp'ers that I know. They can't accept the fact that there are new players that are better than them. All I hear from those with rank6+ are how it used to be so nice back in the day where most of the good pvp'ers knew each other, whos who and nub this, nub that.

To sum it up, with so many new players in pvp (anet made it more enticing than before) they pretty much cant steamroll through everything and a lot of them grew bitter and are more rage prone.

Secondly, I equally dislike those that casually play the game and assume people that worked on their goals for so long (a lot of people have 2+ years time spent on their account) should feel the same, that its only a game and it should all be candyland and cakes.

Anyone that worked hard on something will feel threatened and angry if trivial or underestimated factors contributes to their loss. This is frequently casual players that join the group, refuse to be competitive and play in a nonchalant way.

Face it, pvp, mmo and physical sports are pretty much alike. If you refuse to be a team player and endure rigorous practice to be competitive, don't burden a group of people that want to win hard because your stubborn and selfish ideals tell you that its only a game and you should have fun even at the expense of others.

I just read through all the comments, I like yours most

I always say "don't let your fun become a burden on others" whenever I encounter a situation where one person is continuously harassing others.

DreamRunner · Nov 19, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

On the internet, idiocy and inhumanity run rampant. It's expected that somewhere down the line, someone is going to insult you [a lot] either for no reason, or a small mistake. Ever been to 4chan? [<The a-hole of the internet] It shows the full extent of what anonymity plus an audience can equal.

Just because some people take an anarchy stance, doesn't mean you are smarter than them or because you take of a more moral stance. But if you think its the A-hole of the internet, then you haven't been around much.

What Drakken Breaths fire has said, I agree with. Strange yes from our previous encounter however what he said is true. People you meet on the internet have a extremely low impact on people unless people meet in real life.

cdgsax · Nov 19, 2007, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Originally Posted by Domino

part of it is also taking criticism... I don't know the circumstances in this particular incident, but if she was doing something stupid and someone called her on it, well then that's just business... don't hate people for looking out for their interests.

According to Undeadgun, this person didn't give CRITICISM...he/she gave INSULTS. There is a difference, and you should look up both words in the dictionary.

CRITICISM (Constructive criticism anyway) involves telling someone what they did wrong and what to do to fix it. This person didn't do that. He/She INSULTED his friend, which served no help or sense of purpose to the team. Instead of pointing the finger, he/she could have at least made an effort to help out more. If this person is looking out for his/her own interests, he/she should go do PVE instead of PVP.

Know what you are talking about before you come on this forum saying stupid shit like that.

X Cytherea X · Nov 19, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45

go over to her house and provide sexual healing

Vl Vl D · Nov 19, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

mute is your friend.

Skyy High · Nov 19, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

The Monk is always the first to blame in any PvP situation.

All those ''High End'' PvPers go berserk if something isn't perfect like: ''You need to run that build!'', ''Go check Wiki noob!'', ''Spike this, spike that, no spike? NO HA FOR YOU!'' Well... I got that out of personal experience, most people in HA are just elitists.

Instead of whining they could actually teach people about HA.

Well, that's what they're doing when they tell you to run certain builds. If you want to learn, first thing you need to do is let go of your builds and run what they want you to run. And, if you can't spike targets, you need to work on listening and pressing "1" on "Spike!"

As for the OP: amazing that your friend got to r10 without ever running into a jerk...honestly, you need to be able to handle a little flak if you play any game, anywhere, PvE or PvP. The screaming and b****ing is just as bad if you screw up an elite mission run as screwing up an HA or GvG battle.

Count to Potato · Nov 19, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

ppl take this game too seriously..

jrk247 · Nov 19, 2007, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Yes the PvP side of this game is taken way too serious. It's really funny. Someone ranks you, OH NOEZ!!! Just means they really have no life. Oh look I have a phoenix! Ok...

It's just a game, and those retards that caused your friend to quit really aren't her friends just people she knew.

6am3 Fana71c · Nov 19, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42

....

But seriously, next time, if you or your friend receive insults, just tell them to GTFO, and move on. Quitting won't solve anything.

Zeek Aran · Nov 19, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Just because some people take an anarchy stance, doesn't mean you are smarter than them or because you take of a more moral stance. But if you think its the A-hole of the internet, then you haven't been around much.

4channers even call themselves that. And I never said breaking rules make you an idiot, or being unmoralistic makes you an idiot.

Jamison0071 · Nov 19, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

Sorry, Anet is too busy working on GW2 to create nicer players.

DreamRunner · Nov 19, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

4channers even call themselves that. And I never said breaking rules make you an idiot, or being unmoralistic makes you an idiot.

But singling out a single group into that context of saying that the internet is full of idiots? And then saying its the A-hole of the internet. Right.....

Omniclasm · Nov 19, 2007, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Give her my sympathy....

I'd hate to play HA that much.

ryan_child · Nov 19, 2007, 04:32 AM // 04:32

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Originally Posted by undeadgun

Today, one of my best friend, a really nice girl has quitted GWs. Why? Because some people that she known before have changed. She is a PvP fan, HA everyday with guildes and friends, however, today, 1 of her friend in group used some very strong words to insulted her, and blaming her that she have caused the game lost(she was playing monk). 1st of all, not only she is a very good HAer(r10), but also she is a very nice person to play with.(i ve never heard any bad words from her EVER since we met almost a year and half ago). 2nd of all, she is that kind person that will never rage a group or blaming people for losing a match. Sadly, today she got stunded by her own friend, blaming, f words, all over the vent... she then decited to quit this game, she asked me just one question: why undead? why people in HA changed? why they have to be so mean to me? i dont know what should i answear her....
This was the story, very sad, but it is true. and from my personal experince, i have noticed this /rage, blaming, very inmature languages around HA lately as well. i mean, why do some people have to be a total jerk in this game? it is just a freaken game.... you dont have to yell at people in vent to release your angry, find a wall and knock your head on it already. i miss old days really, no blame no rage, people play togather happily, if lost, sure, lets go again. where have those days go? HA has been illness for awhile now, low rank or no rank people never get a group, if they ever do get a group, either running zergway or sway crap like that. how do they improve their game play skills by playing those lame builds over and over? sigh..... nothing i can really do, i rant too much today, i am sorry if this post hurt some of you, but i really do want to tell some truth of the current stats in HA

Dude, that's just sad.. it's hard to believe how communites in video games can change over time, isn't it? All the good games end up being bad and getting flooded by mean people. I can't believe a "friend" would do that to someone else..that's just pitiful of them and it's sad.

crazy diamond · Nov 19, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38

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Originally Posted by {IceFire}

This person got to r10 without seeing that HA and most of gw pvp in general is full of assholes? Right

Haha. Gotta agree with this one. I find it hard to believe anyone who's gotten to r10 could have done so without being exposed to the sheer amount of vitriol found in PvP.

undeadgun · Nov 19, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

Haha. Gotta agree with this one. I find it hard to believe anyone who's gotten to r10 could have done so without being exposed to the sheer amount of vitriol found in PvP.

id agree too, but if you playing with girl would you swear at her face? if you would, i ve got nothing to say.

Winterclaw · Nov 19, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

The Monk is always the first to blame in any PvP situation.

Especially when that monk wants to play whatever his secondary is instead and forgets that he is a monk first and the other monk gets pissed because he realizes he now has to heal/protect 8 people alone in HA.

At the OP:
1. Rank 10 doesn't mean anything anymore about skill. Yes there are some very good players who are rank 10 and there are some people who just farmed it. Likewise if your friend was new to monking, rank has lesser value.
2. Your "friend" should choose better friends from now on. If that person is a jerk, don't play with him anymore.
3. This isn't really a new thing and being a monk you really have to expect taking the blame sometime even when it isn't your fault. If the person isn't used to that, I'm guessing she is newish to monking or hasn't played it enough in PvP.
4. The person yelling was probably at fault as well.
5. If your friend likes PvP but can't handle a rager when she plays monk, maybe she shouldn't play monk.

Anyways, HA has been dead for a long time, it's just allowed to linger on because Anet doesn't have the time to fix it.

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Originally Posted by undeadgun

id agree too, but if you playing with girl would you swear at her face? if you would, i ve got nothing to say.

Probably not, but the age of chivalry has been killed off.

crazy diamond · Nov 19, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

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Originally Posted by undeadgun

id agree too, but if you playing with girl would you swear at her face? if you would, i ve got nothing to say.

Why should her being a girl matter? A jackass will be a jackass to anyone they can be a jackass to. Don't make this a gender thing.

Medic · Nov 19, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

Best way for a monk to deal with a jackass like that is to let them die and then corpse /rank them. I've done this and its a lot of fun

Daenara · Nov 19, 2007, 07:02 AM // 07:02

What a pity that your friend had to have that experience, people who rage over games like that must have issues. I just wanted to add on the flipside that it's not all like that, I've met some wonderful high ranked people lately :P Who've been very kind to help my nub butt get into rank 6+ groups, and very patiently explained to me what's been going on, and what I'm expected to do. No raging, no insults, just patience, and calm.... <3 ya undead !!