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Severlator · Nov 20, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36

Is there a title worth having other than the Lightbringer ones?

iridescentfyre · Nov 20, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50

In my opinion, titles don't matter in the least. Some of us played for months before titles even existed. Furthermore, in order to devote time to titles, you have to enjoy the game in the first place. Thus I submit that someone who plays to gain titles would probably be playing anyway.

Games simply aren't addictive to normal, average, mentally-stable people. We as human beings do what we enjoy, and some just enjoy playing games. An addiction or otherwise unhealthy affection for the game is not required to get a high-end title. Do your study as you wish, but I truly do not believe its any more complicated than that.

Btw, to all of you who were confused/offended by this, or flamed it, I'm confused as to exactly what the f--- your issue is. Its a completely legit question and the OP accused no one of being addicted.

Vl Vl D · Nov 20, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Ive only clocked up 5,ooo hrs buts its enough to make me want to upchuck all over my desk.I know of people that have played double that but in doing so they have lost things like income,friends,girlfriend and health issues.Personally ive wasted too much time on GW when I could be rebuilding my rare xa hardtop like the black one off mad max.Now my time limit is 2hrs a day including a brief scan over these forums.

Coridan · Nov 20, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10

While no diagnostic criteria have yet been established for video game addiction, the symptoms of impulse control disorder include regular or repetitive displays of at least five of the following:[

Persistent thoughts of the activity or performance of the activity. (Preoccupation)
Use of activity to escape problems or relieve bad mood. (Preoccupation)
Need for increased time spent on the activity to achieve satisfaction or diminished reward for the same amount of time spent on the activity. (Tolerance)
Inability to control, stop or diminish the behavior. (Loss of control)
Restlessness or irritability when prevented from partaking in the activity. (Withdrawal)
Lying to friends or family about extent of involvement with activity. (Continuance despite adverse consequences)
Committing illegal acts to sustain activity. (Continuance despite adverse consequences)
Relying on others to finance activity. (Continuance despite adverse consequences)

I have problems with 1-5 not the last 3 yet....so yeah i guess i am probably addicted. Mostly i use it as a way to relax after a frustrating day at work. But it has caused problems with my wife on occassion...not anymore because i play less than an hour a day now...bored with it...

Viruzzz · Nov 20, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11

targeting titles specifically makes little sense.
people will play the game regardless of titles.

they already did before titles were introduced

edit: to the post above.
1, 2 and 5 doesn't sound alarming to me.
i'll react like that with pretty much anything i enjoy doing.
1. if i'm bored i'll find something to think about. and obviously rather something i like doing than something i don't like.
2. video games is an excellent way to get rid of a bad mood. you can go beat on things and it doesn't hurt anybody.
I used to do homework while i played games. it gave me a couple of advantages. I didn't get bored of my homework, I had a computer if i needed to find something, and i could get something done playing the game that would normally be less, i would mine in EVE, spend 4-8 seconds every 3 minutes, and i would benefit from it. And just to clarify, i usually got pretty good grades, so it didn't impact the quality of my homework.
5. Often my mom would tell me to stop playing, always hated it, cause i would just end up not doing anything for however long she said i had to not play. TV never really appealed to me, such a passive activity.

addiction is when you can't stop doing it, even when you really really should.
6, 7, 8 fall into that. if you need to steal in order to fund your addiction, or you wont admit how much you actually use on it THEN you have problems.
I know i can stop when i want. i already did more than once. and not only to prove that i *could* indeed do it, I stopped for several months cause i didn't have time to play, i didn't re-prioritize so i would have time, Just stopped.

I only have around 2000 hours ingame since launch, the first 1000 of that was during the first couple of months, cause i never really turned the game off, just left it running minimized in the background while i did other things.

Onarik Amrak · Nov 20, 2007, 01:18 PM // 13:18

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Originally Posted by Im Using The Force

Diplomacy & professionalism will be greatly appreciated.
Thank You for your time & consideration.

Diplomacy and professionalism in a game forum? You're out of your mind.

Ctb · Nov 20, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

So... you want the opinions of a bunch of non-medical people... when you have access to the research capabilities of actual medical people... on a subject next to nobody on this board is going to have any actual professional insight into?

And you phrased it all in grammar that would fail a third grade English test?

I think you're a troll trying to start a fight over the new GWEN titles.

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Diplomacy and professionalism in a game forum? You're out of your mind.

You'd be surprised how many more immature, e-peen-waving jagoffs there are on GWG versus a lot of other game forums. Just my personal experience, but this place often descends nearly to the level of acrimony you see on loosely-moderated political forums.

The mods have kind of stepped up compared to, say, a year ago, but it's still pretty ridiculous watching people screech "oh lol ur a nub who just dosn't know teh game you should gtfo and play more insted of QQ lol"

Pan Head · Nov 20, 2007, 03:28 PM // 15:28

This thread seems to be on of many the last week of pointlessness.

TwinRaven · Nov 20, 2007, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by Pan Head

This thread seems to be on of many the last week of pointlessness.

Bowling balls are pointless, but very useful for knocking down pins...

So many people not really considering the OP and just throwing out "pointless" rhetoric...Seriously consider the question for a moment....for good or for ill. It should come as no surprise that games like GW, WoW, EQ, FF, and the like, have a built in scale of tasks pulling people forward like the proverbial carrot on a stick...regardless of how you feel about carrots, answer the question...all the rest sniffs of denial to me.

I know the reasons I play well enough to limit myself...I have essentially replaced TV watching with game-play during hours my wife watches programming I don't care for. I could go somewhere else and watch TV, but GW is more rewarding. The rewards, of course (titles and such) kept me farming points that I would otherwise not give a fuzzy pickle about were it not for the chance to get a rainbow pheonix at 10 maxed titles...that's the ONLY reason I did it...I probably won't go for any more.....suffering 2 weeks of tedium was enough.

The value of in game rewards is debatable. Take a look here for some interesting insight (or a good laugh if you think it so much bologna): www.nickyee.com/hub/home.html

Seriously, think about the OP...you might want to consider the question before dismissing your own answer.

wsmcasey · Nov 20, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by TwinRaven

Seriously, think about the OP...you might want to consider the question before dismissing your own answer.

Whats the question?

Lagg · Nov 20, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

I am the Duke of Flanders and am hereby decreeing Guild Wars to be put on the Class A Narcotics list.

Get over yourself, it's a game.

=DNC=Trucker · Nov 20, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Everyone is addicted to something, I am just glad its GW for me and not crack

Malice Black · Nov 20, 2007, 04:22 PM // 16:22

I lol'd

GW isn't addictive, laughing at the scrubs who play it is

Fjalar · Nov 20, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

A tittle's nothing but a name, a character is nothing but pixels but in your minds it's something diferent you asume it as an important thing just because it's an important part of your free time wich means it's an important part on your life, not a REALLY important thing but, it's a good thing that you have and you enjoy, that's why you understand it as something real , because it's real for you in a non strict sense of the word.And beeing real it becomes one of the things you think about more, and slowly it becomes more and more important while time pass and finally GW is the only thing you think about and you expend a huge part ot your hours each day just playing, that's how you become addicted.

At least that's how I became addicted to GW, until a day when I stopped and well, now I play but with a limit and I am conscient that my character is not me, but there is a lot of people that stills in the same situation of adiction and that may be a problem but well....we all think that playing a game is a waste of time, at least that's what society wants but....what gives you to work everyday 8 hours or more? Money? Respect? A better life? Yes. What do you get on GW? money, respect and a funny time, not a better life but a funny time. Of course we think that working and beeing important for other people in real life is great but in fact anything has a trascendental importance on this planet or this universe so I think that if a person enjoys to work hard to get a cool job and to be rich in real life... Why can't someone do the same thing on a game if it makes him happy?

That's what you think when you're on that circle of GW GW GW GW.

Talking about elitist attitudes:
Well, there's always people who need to prove that they're important or better than someone or something like that, and in real life there's people that spend millions of dollars onn having elite things to do the same thing , just to prove that they're better than someone so I think it's not so rare to see that on a game played by HUMAN people because we're all humans, aren't we?

About Titles:
Titles are just one of the special "cheats" of Anet to entertain people in game while they prepare new games to earn more money, because, people that has already finished the story of GW don't really have a reason to stay on it, just titles or High End items or things like that...

Titles are the only thing that Anet has introduced in game for gamers that have already completed game and need a reason to stay on GW til the next GW game, the rest of things are introduced to us by ourselfs. As an example, now Chaos Cloves are so cool? or it's maybe such a "pro" thing just because it's rally expensive? Is Crystalline sword so cool? A monk really needs a tormented shield to protect himself? NO, but it looks cool and people will think you're cool, just aceptation.

Well, after all this I have not much more things to say but good bye and sorry for this big text and sorry for my english too. :P

HayesA · Nov 20, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I am certaintly not addicted to Guild Wars at all. I don't play for the titles, or the in-game gold, or the so called "prestigue." No, I play for the fun of it. Sure I farm, and go out specifaly to earn gold, to buy new and pretty weapons/armour. I also go out to work on the titles that do something for the game. Like the new EoTN race titles, sunspear/lightbringer. I worry about the other titles over time.

But aside of all that, in the core I play for the fun. I don't skimp out on my teammates when the chips are down. I am in a small Guild with friends who I was friends with before Guild Wars. One of them I used to work for. I enjoy gaming, and gaming with good friends. Isn't this what a game should be? Fun?

Sure I display my titles in outposts; but only those which are relevent to the task at hand. For example, I display the Norn title when trying to get in a Ursan Blessing group. Or display the Lightbringer title when finding a group in the Domain of Anguish. If I had Kind of a Big Deal, i'd probably display that in cities only and during festivels.

Reading this thread should be all the research you need: The internet is filled with immature little teenagers, with big egos. Finding intelligence among that is like a needle in a haystack. The average Guild Wars player is just that: one giant ego.

Vinraith · Nov 20, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

I'm beginning to think the medical community has hopelessly lost track of what the word "addiction" actually means. The reward system for time played in GW is quite weak, anyone that's unable to stop playing and whose real life is adversely affected because of a compulsion to have some words under their character's name has a pre-existing problem.

Ctb · Nov 20, 2007, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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I am the Duke of Flanders and am hereby decreeing Guild Wars to be put on the Class A Narcotics list.

Hi-diddly-ho, posterino!

/ wait... what were we talking about?

Sha Noran · Nov 21, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

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Originally Posted by Im Using The Force

Im a healthcare professional. I work in an ER and Ive consulted Phd's in both Mental Health and Addiction about some of my concerns.

Edge Martinez · Nov 21, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Titles are easy to explain. They put them in for all the people who don't have Halo 3 so they could do something besides read Nancy Drew books. You have a degree and don't know this?

Lord Sojar · Nov 21, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34

Titles make you cool and successful in life. I should know, I am Protector of Tyria, and that got me a raise yesterday at my job... hmmmm