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Sparda · Nov 13, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Heyzzzzz people

I just wanted to make a statement here over some high end stuff.
I posted a rant over the ridicilous prices being offert about the eternal blade
100k 1500 ecto 75 braces and still rising.
8 people who read the rant pm'ed me ingame and agreed with me that far most all that stuff can't be fair and can or is still a leftover from the dupe exploit.
And i even think Anet drags there feed related to Ebay golds.
Course how is someone willing to accumulate 75 braces (1125 gemsets)
And many have those amounts of braces and even more IMO
Thats 7000k and 2100 ecto iff you count 100k 40 ecto a brace
2100 ecto x 5k ea = 10500k -_- for 70 braces
And many stacks of ecto sure someone can have 1 or 2 stacks but 10 plus stacks.
Something stinks.
And it's a bad smell.
Just a last thing i know Anet banned the big dupers but i know that they missed
those who kept there mouth shut and did it without Anet noticed it.
And some other thing flame away i have thick skin but you people can't ignore these things something stinks and it ain't smelly gymsocks
Sorry but is is just me but this just can't be fair

Greetzzz Sparda

makosi · Nov 13, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

I have to commend you for saying what's on a lot of people's mind.

I have my doubts about the duping situation. Was it really all cleared up?

Sparda · Nov 13, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by makosi

I have to commend you for saying what's on a lot of people's mind.

I have my doubts about the duping situation. Was it really all cleared up?

Yeah sorry to be so harsh but after today something snapt.
And i just had to make this rant.

Antheus · Nov 13, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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And many stacks of ecto sure someone can have 1 or 2 stacks but 10 plus stacks.

No, not really.

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And i even think Anet drags there feed related to Ebay golds.

There are eBayers. No bad smell about that.

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Course how is someone willing to accumulate 75 braces (1125 gemsets)

It may seem a lot at first. But 75 really isn't that much for one-of-a-kind item.

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Thats 7000k and 2100 ecto iff you count 100k 40 ecto a brace

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2100 ecto x 5k ea = 10500k -_-

Drunkard and Sweet tooth cost millions. People are buying those titles left and right, and are generally considered the easiest titles to get.

These people don't get money by farming. It's impossible. There are players who operate at different levels, solely trading and investing. The values tossed around here are nothing special.

There were people with stacks of ectos soon after launch. Not one stack, but stacks. And that was almost 3 years ago.

DoA is now fairly old. 75 braces isn't much. That's 1 every 3 or so days, perhaps even less. It's really not a big number. It was those "500 braces, how many do you need" type of deals that were fishy.

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And many stacks of ecto sure someone can have 1 or 2 stacks but 10 plus stacks.
Something stinks.
And it's a bad smell.

I almost never farmed. I never did power trading. The loot I sell goes to merchants. I've stopped playing for a total of one year since launch. I have almost 2 stacks. With zero effort, zero high-end nonsense, zero attention to market, zero anything. I don't dare think how much I'd have if I got involved into amassing money.

Running Elonian chests gives you 20k every month. Multiply that by x characters. There's people with 5, 10, 20 accounts. With dozens, even hundreds of characters.

No, 10 stacks really isn't that much.

Mordakai · Nov 13, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Is the Eternal Sword unique? As in, it will never drop again?

Redfeather1975 · Nov 13, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

If I had the money I would buy the sword and make a video of me salvaging it for materials.
Like that WoW movie with little Jimmy and his blue staff.

Sparda · Nov 13, 2007, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by Antheus

No, not really.

There are eBayers. No bad smell about that.

It may seem a lot at first. But 75 really isn't that much for one-of-a-kind item.

Drunkard and Sweet tooth cost millions. People are buying those titles left and right, and are generally considered the easiest titles to get.

These people don't get money by farming. It's impossible. There are players who operate at different levels, solely trading and investing. The values tossed around here are nothing special.

There were people with stacks of ectos soon after launch. Not one stack, but stacks. And that was almost 3 years ago.

DoA is now fairly old. 75 braces isn't much. That's 1 every 3 or so days, perhaps even less. It's really not a big number. It was those "500 braces, how many do you need" type of deals that were fishy.

Al that stuff need to get from somewhere remember that the server only has that amount of ecto that the players sell to the rare trader.
And that many ecto's where sold to the trader @ the time of the dupe or else the price didn't get that low from 10/12k to 5k
And sweet tooth or drunkard can cost like 2 mil in total ea for max titel

Snograt · Nov 13, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

This insane price war has me worried too. When prices start to head in the multiple Armbrace range, it's an obvious concern.

Maybe someone with an insight to the legitimately ultra-rich could offer an opinion? (The name Malice Black springs to mind - he knows everyone with limitless funds ^^ )

What is the most money anyone has legitimately accumulated and, just as importantly, what limit would the ultra-rich put on a singular purchase such as this?

(Thumbs down for the trolling thread title though...)

Drop of Fear · Nov 13, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

the fact that there are still duped items / armbraces around cannot be contested. we all know that. but throwing random accusations at ppl is not fair either.

i know a guy that bought an everlasting beetle tonic for 220ectos the first days those were available. he recently sold it for 1750 ectos. he had a lucky stroke. he bought it to use and found himself with a little treasure in his storage now that he decided to sell it.
he gained 1530ectos doing that. has he cheated? no. has he duped? no. has he bought from ebay the 7 stacks of ectos he has? no.
many people trade in highend items better then this.

i personaly can think of 2-3 ppl that acquired immense amount of cash somehow cheating, but not everyone did.

Coridan · Nov 13, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

the eternal blade is a drop from the end chest of UW. I agree that the dupe hasn't been fully explained...and that there are know dupers still in the game. Total BS.

As to insane amounts of money for items check out the prices on the Panda's and the people that have them have 2-3 panda's each. Total BS that a non casual gamer as myself who has a bit of money and ectos can never ever achieve the amounts of money that a select few players have...

EDIT Make Armbraces nonstackable

makosi · Nov 13, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Is the Eternal Sword unique? As in, it will never drop again?

No they come from the UW end chests and [i think] the HoH reward chest. I only know of a req.13 and a req.9 in existence because both were featured in the High End section of the Ventari's Corner.

More will appear in the future.

Sparda · Nov 13, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Antheus

Running Elonian chests gives you 20k every month. Multiply that by x characters. There's people with 5, 10, 20 accounts. With dozens, even hundreds of characters.

No, 10 stacks really isn't that much.

i do not agree on that first time you pop those free chest yes they can give like 20k but after more times they give less and less money after 4 pops they give me 6k and only grapes
and you can only have like 26 plus 12/13 chars slots

Mordakai · Nov 13, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by makosi

No they come from the UW end chests and [i think] the HoH reward chest. I only know of a req.13 and a req.9 in existence because both were featured in the High End section of the Ventari's Corner.

More will appear in the future.

Then the price will go down.

It's just too bad Anet doesn't get some characters to sell high end stuff to remove some gold from the game....

Simath · Nov 13, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Oh hey look it's another "that person has too much gold they must be an ebayer" thread.

You can easily accumulate mass wealth through power trading with enough time and patience. Why this topic continues to be discussed I don't know.

boxterduke · Nov 13, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Sparda

i do not agree on that first time you pop those free chest yes they can give like 20k but after more times they give less and less money after 4 pops they give me 6k and only grapes
and you can only have like 26 plus 12/13 chars slots

QFT, I did a 4th time a month ago and it was 4k per char and all grapes.

But yeah, I see these prices and I think its not fair as well.

Antheus · Nov 13, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Al that stuff need to get from somewhere remember that the server only has that amount of ecto that the players sell to the rare trader.
And that many ecto's where sold to the trader @ the time of the dupe or else the price didn't get that low from 10/12k to 5k

Ecto prices dropped with loot scaling and favor change.

Ectos are excluded from loot scaling, yet access to UW was increased, and as such allowed for limitless farming.

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And sweet tooth or drunkard can cost like 2 mil in total ea for max titel

Perhaps you never ran across a person with all characters having maxed out Sweet tooth.

What about those with all characters with FoW armor?

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What is the most money anyone has legitimately accumulated and, just as importantly, what limit would the ultra-rich put on a singular purchase such as this?

Stacks upon stacks of ectos. In the first year of the game.

Back in the Prophecies, I was trading ecto between continents. I was making 500g per ecto, or 7% markup. Sometimes, in an hour, I'd move a stack, making 125k in the process. This type of "high end" trading would be considered scraping the bottom.

Now consider that there are people who have spent last 3 years doing nothing but trading - but not for 500g profit per item, but differences counted in ectos.

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i know a guy that bought an everlasting beetle tonic for 220ectos the first days those were available. he recently sold it for 1750 ectos.

This is how fortunes are made. But dedicated people do this every day, for 8-16 hours straight, with tens of accounts and hundreds of characters in every D1 there is, trading anything and everything there is.

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and you can only have like 26 plus 12/13 chars slots

Not really a problem, just buy a dozen accounts.

**cosyfiep** · Nov 13, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

when people start using pandas for trading purposes (like 2 pandas, braces, and ecto....) then I will start to worry about the dupers again.....until then there are tons of people who do nothing but the same farming thing over and over and over and ....you get the idea......

its been some time since DoA was opened up as someone said, if you did a run like everyday for the last few months that would be lots of stuff to sell, trade, etc....so I have no problems with the stacks people say they have now. Whether dupping is still going on.........who's to say?

Prof Of Black · Nov 13, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

You can make, with luck, 100k each hour with powertrading.
Thats 20 ecto

1000 hours of trading = 1000x20 = 20000 ecto..
= 400 armbraces

It's /nolife, but still, it's possible.
Trading rare minis ftw.

And having luck.

~Prof.

makosi · Nov 13, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Simath

Oh hey look it's another "that person has too much gold they must be an ebayer" thread.

You can easily accumulate mass wealth through power trading with enough time and patience. Why this topic continues to be discussed I don't know.

People defend the extremely rich and condemn those who are curious about their excessive wealth. Those people are either a) the wealthy or b) those who pretend to be wealthy.

Everyone knows that you can acquire great wealth through power-trading and being in the right place at the right time with good contacts and so on. There comes a time where people stop and think about how these unknown people, who have never been seen on the high-end scene, suddenly bid millions on a sword.

When Akhilleus bought a req.8 15^50 crystalline for [i think] 1,750 ectos nobody pointed fingers and called him a cheat because he sold and bought lots in high-end over a long period of time.

People reserve the right to be skeptical where they can add reasonable justification.

On another note, if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about so if I had all that cash I wouldn't post in this thread trying to defend myself. I'd be on a shopping spree.

Sparda · Nov 13, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Simath

Oh hey look it's another "that person has too much gold they must be an ebayer" thread.

You can easily accumulate mass wealth through power trading with enough time and patience. Why this topic continues to be discussed I don't know.

No it isn't another like the other ones.
I'm not pointing fingers to people but we all know that are many ways to get rish but some of them here just have an unlimited amount of money.
And we all know that the money has to come from somewhere.
But if i look @ your blow joe average they don't have much money so iff they can't affort the prices from the power trader where does there money then come from