Curse

CHannum · Dec 01, 2007, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Not sure I understand the greed and immaturity regarding releasing this thing. As a total newb, just picked the GoTY edition of prophecy a few days ago, I find it rather counterintuitive to have content a player can't pay for given the pay model of GW. All this "I've got it and you don't, nyaah nyaah" reminds me of grade school.

I'd love to have something like this and would pay a reasonable price for it. I'm not even sure I can quite grasp *why* they should care if the playground bullies get ticked if they start selling it separately. This isn't like WoW where you can cancel your sub if you get your panties in a bunch over something they do. Worst case scenario is you're not stupid enough to spend money you had no actual reason to in order to get a "free" promotion first in the future. It only makes sense that they would release it first as a "free" promotion and later as a pay-for addon.

If you hadn't picked up a chapter, then a promotion that entices you to do so through the in-game store makes sense, but if you're just buying slots you don't need, you're asking to be disappointed because you're being dumb. This isn't like a limited edition skin or even a mini, these are full blown missions they put a ton of work into - why exactly should they forego continuing to reap revenue from them so somebody who, if they were behaving intelligently, got for free by buying something they actually needed can wave their ePenis a little more?

/signed

LcpAkolang · Dec 01, 2007, 08:15 AM // 08:15

is there a new way to get bmp? or still only after meeting the requirement of $29.00 total spent on the online store by oct 31? cuz i know someone who had this added to his account w/o purchasing anything from the online store

Red Sonya · Dec 01, 2007, 08:19 AM // 08:19

/not signed due to OP's attitude. You don't deserve it now. You had the time you should have taken another job like many people do when they need more money. The newspaper companies are always in need of extra delivery persons (espeically for kids) and insert personnel once or twice a week. You had ways to make the money you were just lazy and wanted it handed to you on easy platter. So, tough now you ain't gettin it and those of us that have it can look down upon you. hahaha

Vinraith · Dec 01, 2007, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Originally Posted by CHannum

Not sure I understand the greed and immaturity regarding releasing this thing.

It's not directed at people like you, it's directed at the "OMFG Anerf SUXXORZ teh BMP will be lame I'm buying a box" crowd. You'd be amazed at the level of sheer, blind, stupid hostility towards both the game and the company present on these boards. Some of us can't help but be amused when that attitude reaps an appropriately karmic reward.

It's somewhat unfortunate that the only way to make this fine piece of work available to innocents like yourself is also to make it available to those mental pygmies, but suck is life. Still, I suppose depriving assholes of their fun doesn't trump the need to make this available to players that legitimately couldn't get their hands on it for one reason or another.

jezz · Dec 01, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHannum

Not sure I understand the greed and immaturity regarding releasing this thing. As a total newb, just picked the GoTY edition of prophecy a few days ago, I find it rather counterintuitive to have content a player can't pay for given the pay model of GW. All this "I've got it and you don't, nyaah nyaah" reminds me of grade school.

I'd love to have something like this and would pay a reasonable price for it. I'm not even sure I can quite grasp *why* they should care if the playground bullies get ticked if they start selling it separately. This isn't like WoW where you can cancel your sub if you get your panties in a bunch over something they do. Worst case scenario is you're not stupid enough to spend money you had no actual reason to in order to get a "free" promotion first in the future. It only makes sense that they would release it first as a "free" promotion and later as a pay-for addon.

If you hadn't picked up a chapter, then a promotion that entices you to do so through the in-game store makes sense, but if you're just buying slots you don't need, you're asking to be disappointed because you're being dumb. This isn't like a limited edition skin or even a mini, these are full blown missions they put a ton of work into - why exactly should they forego continuing to reap revenue from them so somebody who, if they were behaving intelligently, got for free by buying something they actually needed can wave their ePenis a little more?

/signed

people can spend there money how they choose, you dont have a right to call them dumb..if they spend a few dollars purchasing more slots..
yawn...i wanted Devine Aura but missed out..that was a promotion..so should i be able to pay $10 to get that?..i say NO..promotion ended i missed out end of story..same here.

SaucE · Dec 01, 2007, 08:31 AM // 08:31

/signed

I say yes, but not for atleast 6 months. Just like the Goty version of Prophicies. Its in the store now, but it was long after it had been in retail stores.

samborarocks · Dec 01, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34

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Originally Posted by jezz

i wanted Devine Aura but missed out..that was a promotion..so should i be able to pay $10 to get that?..i say NO..promotion ended i missed out end of story..same here.

Hit the nail on the head......thank you!!!

SR

EDIT: This is the real point of this thread........

iriyabran · Dec 01, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37

you must be very smart to compare a divine aura (a simple particle effect) with the BMP

gone · Dec 01, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

lol that simple particle effect fetches over $3-400 Usd, if you can find Proph CE.

iriyabran · Dec 01, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

have you done any video editing?
it is insulting to compare the whole bmp pack to a particle effect
and still the chance to find a proph ce is bigger than getting the bmp now isn't it?

Mangione · Dec 01, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

I haven't got the BMP.
I don't feel the need for it, have seen the missions played at a friend's home and all the content takes less than 30 minutes to complete.
I'm pretty sure that if they sell it for more than 5 euros people will feel scammed... There is so few content and so few stuff.
Eye Of The North has got 18 dungeons, 12 missions, playable in NM and HM, has got something like 10/12 explorable areas to vanquish, minigames and a lot of other stuff and it costed me 24 euros (normal shop, not online).

How much do you think they can charge for 4 short missions (hey, that's 6/7 minutes of gameplay each)?

I don't have CE aura or CE dances, but I don't complain for that.

I believe a lot of people here is complaining because of the shiny weapon. They are amongst the most beautiful weapons of the game IMHO, but... they are pixels, my life won't change too much by having it or not.

I think that the BMP is the collector bonus for those who bought EotN in the online store, giving more money and support to Anet than those who decided to save their money and pay less (like me).

I made a different choice knowing that I won't get the BMP.
Those who did the same now shouldn't complain at all. Grow up, please.

Now Anet has two choices:
1) give the bonus pack as a separate sale and that will get mad a lot of players who bought stuff as character slots just to qualify for the offer (and if I was one of them I'd be really really mad for that)
2) don't give the bonus pack anymore, but then people will complain because they can't have the shiny weapons given as reward from completing the missions. (But, hey, they knew they had an option... they choose to spend their money in a normal shop knowing that they weren't going to get the BMP... so why complain now?)

For this reasons, to this petition my answer is /notsigned.

Lest121 · Dec 01, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by upier

Ohh please the choices-argument is getting a bit old.

the only thing that matters is that it was a marketing disaster because many people who love GW couldn't obtain something they really wanted! And it wasn't even a limited edition of something!

Marketing Disaster???? I see Marketing Genius/scam artist, if they had release the BMP without weapons there wouldn't be a HUGE uproar from the Community, and they wouldn't be able to sell the BMP on a later date for a decent/ripoff price, now they can do that because these weapon skins are some of there greatest work so far. Right now they have a lot of Gullible gamers that will buy the BMP for $20-$30 or even $40, it's only a Matter of time before the act like the Good ANET and say we gonna sell the BMP, or extend the original offer for a few more weeks.

PS: If you haven't notice.... they MADE sure the weapons were customize, this way you have to Buy the BMP to get the Weapons.

samborarocks · Dec 01, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by iriyabran

you must be very smart to compare a divine aura (a simple particle effect) with the BMP

Uggh, the point wasn't the comparison of Divine Aura VS. BMP, the point was, he didn't get Divine Aura because he didn't buy collectors edition (or however you get divine aura) with no way to 'buy it/obtain it', so why should the people who didn't meet the requirements for the BMP have a second chance?

SR

gone · Dec 01, 2007, 08:44 AM // 08:44

roffelcopterZZZ

yes I'm eating a late brunch with Spielburg as we speak. we're working on the new Indiana Jones flick.

it is insulting to compare a free item to an item that did cost $50 and now costs...LoL.

i'd say the chances are about the same, if you buy an account that met the criteria for the BmP. Ha yeah.

iriyabran · Dec 01, 2007, 08:48 AM // 08:48

ok but collector editions were always available outside of online store
and people bought them not to save money but because there are a lot of people here who can't shop from the online store for various reasons

p.s. bmp was not free for those who had to forcefully buy stuff just to qualify
because there was no other option
because in the end it's all about money not player base
period!

gone · Dec 01, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56

are you for real?

no one...and I mean no one...forced me or anyone else to use the online store.

period. you want. you buy.

Burning Blade · Dec 01, 2007, 08:58 AM // 08:58

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Originally Posted by artay

I think they should continue the deal they had, buy 30 bucks worth of stuff and get it, I spent that weeks after the promotion had finished, kinda dissapointing they didnt continue it for longer. I suppose it was my fault for not doing it earlier.

Dont see anything wrong with this idea. Come on its a product and ANET wants to sell it as much as possible. If they continue this promotion, more people would use their online store to buy things like extra slots,... more money for ANET.

Oh I don't think it's ok because so many selfish people with such attitude as "hoho you didnt get it? go f*ck yourself haha now we look l33ter than you haha" would be pissed as they are not the only ones who have it anymore. lol can't believe people act this way in A GAME.

Anyway, it's not that I want this promotion continues so []I[/b] will be able to get it because such content does not justify > $10 for me eventhough i really like the new weapons skins. It does not matter for me but it would be nicer for other people who really want it to have second chance to get it.

To those who really want to get this BMP. Don't worry I believe it will be offered again one way or another. I don't see why ANET would want to keep such much-wanted item away from so many people forever.

/Signed

iriyabran · Dec 01, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

i am pretty sure a lot of people did buy it just to qualify and there were such posts in the thread
it is even posted as a reason not to make bmp available
cause people who bough it only for the qualification would whine
/doh

jezz · Dec 01, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by flubber

lol that simple particle effect fetches over $3-400 Usd, if you can find Proph CE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iriyabran

you must be very smart to compare a divine aura (a simple particle effect) with the BMP

Quote:

Originally Posted by iriyabran

have you done any video editing?
it is insulting to compare the whole bmp pack to a particle effect
and still the chance to find a proph ce is bigger than getting the bmp now isn't it?

I didnt compare Proph CE to BMP..pls read carefully next time

was just using it as an example..
same concept PROMOTION...that was my point...
sheesh this thread really needs to be closed..

gone · Dec 01, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by iriyabran

i am pretty sure a lot of people did buy it just to qualify and there were such posts in the thread
it is even posted as a reason not to make bmp available
cause people who bough it only for the qualification would whine
/doh

They sure did..that was the whole idea behind the Promo. spend money in the online store. you don't like the terms. don't spend. you like the terms, spend. you want access to free, spend. you don't spend, no access.

now after what, 4 months of that...people feel...shafted out of content, because others spent? wubba...wubba...wubba