Dec 01, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16
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#41
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sol 3
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Well, to be fair, if you're including the BMP, you'd have to include Sorrow's Furnace. So, it would look more like this in terms of overall quality and gameplay:
Prophecies: Great
Sorrow's Furnace: Awesome
Factions: Decent
Nightfall: Great
EotN: Decent
BMP: Awesome
I would conclude that while Anet does pretty nice on the paid releases, their best stuff is actually the free stuff. Hmm... Also, the quality of the art, IMO, looks something like this:
Prophecies: Solid, decent
Sorrow's Furnace: Meh, more of the same
Factions: Freakin amazing!
Nightfall: Meh
EotN: Decent
BMP: Freakin amazing!
Of course, this is all my opinion, but I think many would probably agree.
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Anet must've formed their mission statement while watching a Star Trek movie marathon. You know what I mean, the even numbered ones being good and the odd ones not so good.
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Dec 01, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15
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#42
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Private room in the Catacombs with Eve
Guild: Deaths Doormen (DOA)
Profession: N/E
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love ever part of it way to go anet
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Dec 01, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13
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#43
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2006
Location: England
Guild: Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.
Profession: N/Me
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I think it works really well as a 'bonus' to players; pretty enjoyable to play around with, and some gorgeous skins to liven things up. Wonder how bored I'll get of seeing them when all my heroes have them.... heheh.
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Dec 01, 2007, 10:22 AM // 10:22
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#44
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: One of Many [ONE]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Hmm... Also, the quality of the art, IMO, looks something like this:
Prophecies: Solid, decent
Sorrow's Furnace: Meh, more of the same
Factions: Freakin amazing!
Nightfall: Meh
EotN: Decent
BMP: Freakin amazing!
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There are several parts I would disagree on. I would rate Sorrow's Furnace to also be Freaking Amazing. While there is some argument that they are the same skins in many places, the over all artwork and environment is freakin amazing. Factions - both the Kurzick and Luxon areas qualify for that but the slums just carry on too long and all look the same (even the Imperial Palace pales in comparison to the Luxon/Kurzivk areas). Similar thing for Nightfall - too much desert/wasteland but parts of Vabbi and the RoT are amazing in their artwork. I would give both "decent" overall due to the variability.
Personally I rather suspect a lot of this has to do with scope - the two free content releases are fairly small and self contained. This makes it easier for a really small team to make great content - there was little other than the artwork and making quests to be done there.
While others would disagree I would like to see some "micro-payment" type stuff come out of Anet. Both Sorrow's Furnace and the BMP are spectacular because they didn't have such ambitious goals - their time was spent making the parts we see instead of the behind the scenes stuff we do not, nor was there time spent balancing skills or anything else. I do not know how much I would spend on those two updates (and I am glad I got them for free), but I am willing to bet that similar content would be sale able through their online store along with the occasional "expansion pack" (similar to what Oblivion has done) that carries a number of them in one package.
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Dec 01, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42
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#45
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: [PiG]
Profession: E/
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yeap, i'm pretty damn happy with the BMP thank you again Anet for a job well done xD
it's refreshingly nice to have access to unique skinned weapons that you don't have to fork out massive amounts of money and/or grind your way into hell for
plus the missions are fun too :P
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Dec 01, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05
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#47
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: England
Guild: Blood On The Worlds Hands
Profession: W/
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I agree the BMP is truely amazing, weapon skins that are easy to get and yet look amazing is a great idea.
The lore and the cinimatics are amazing, espically Turi Ossa, i was amazed at the amazingness of that cutscene.
Overall ANet you've got my playing GW again and now i just need to get some mods for my new weapons!
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Dec 01, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10
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#48
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: Mo/N
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Prediction: Free BMP access week end in a few months, after wintersday.
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Dec 01, 2007, 11:22 AM // 11:22
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#49
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: in bed
Guild: X Peace And Love X [PaL]
Profession: W/
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THIS. IS. ELONA!!!!!!!!!
i love the missions
i love the references to 300 and kill bill, made me chuckle
i love the cutscenes
i love the epic story lines
needless to say i was happy to pay for it, the only bad thing about the BMP is all the kiddies "QQ OMFG LIEK I DONT WANNA PAY FOR IT BUT I WANNA FREEE STUFF GIMME LIEK"
the BMP itself however is awesome
fun to play and even challenging...
oh and the weapons rock :P
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Dec 01, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34
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#50
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ancestral/Grenz
Guild: [CneX]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxage
I don't understand why Anet put more effort into the BMP then any of the campaigns.... considering that the BMP was meant to be a "bonus" not a "game"...... Just shows you have Arena Net half-assed their games... /sigh
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Don't forget the timeline issue here. They didn't produce all the games and expansions simultaneously; they've learned from each one. Additionally, each new game/expansion has brought small new technical/graphical improvements as well (Nightfall = much better fire and waterfalls, BMP = motion blur? idk). The voice acting was horrendous up to nightfall, everything including and after NF has been decent imo.
I can't remember when exactly they started making the BMP vs EotN, but I'm pretty sure this is a "we saved the best for last" type thing before GW2.
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Dec 01, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55
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#51
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Raiders of Gilead
Profession: W/R
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BMP is amazing.
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Dec 01, 2007, 12:12 PM // 12:12
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#52
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Belgium
Guild: PIMP
Profession: Mo/
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I like the Tengu weapon skins, they make me think of The Protoss from Starcraft.
Overall the BMP is welcomed here. Cons: no coop play, short, easy. Pros: easy to get weapons, nice cutscenes.
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Dec 01, 2007, 12:20 PM // 12:20
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#53
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: US
Guild: Diversionary Tactics [DT]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EPO Bot
Prediction: Free BMP access week end in a few months, after wintersday.
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Better prediction:
For a limited time, you have a second chance to qualify for the Bonus Mission Pack. [stuff about what the BMP is for people living under a rock] Blah Blah Blah Blah. We want to milk some more money out of this thing!
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Dec 01, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31
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#54
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Forge Runner
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Too much exaggeration.
This is more an interactive cinematic with item shop. This is where the BMP shines.
As a game the BMP fails. Not the way to go. Press Button 8, WIN BUTTON aka Togo Nuke. Great design?
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Dec 01, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34
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#55
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The Fallen One
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oblivion
Guild: Irrelevant
Profession: Mo/Me
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The BMP is great, although I do wish I could revisit these places (especially Togo's) on my actual characters, for screenshot purposes without have to photoshop until my eyes bleed. The Vista view when you first start Togo's adventure is amazing beyond words.
The BMP is probably one of the best additions ever to Guild Wars.
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Dec 01, 2007, 12:42 PM // 12:42
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#56
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The frozen north
Guild: Ambassadors Of Enlightenment [Sage]
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
I like the Tengu weapon skins, they make me think of The Protoss from Starcraft.
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so thats what they were reminding me of. the tengu skins are the best i think. switched out my monks collossal scimitar for a tengu sword cause they are just soo amazing looking.
I LOVE THE BMP! just so fun and awesome and i love it and love the new missions.
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Dec 01, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45
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#57
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Wars
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The BMP is great because it finally convinced me to use my first consumable ever -- the Perfect Salvage Kit. Goodbye Mr. Storm Bow that has been with me since May 2005, hello Mr. Undead Bow, you curvy, spiky, sexy stringless god!
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Dec 01, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06
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#58
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Malta
Guild: [CuTe]
Profession: E/
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Gotta say they really outdone themselves this time, Good job to the whole Anet team out there. The weapons are amazing, the missions are well thought and most of all I enjoy doing them. Thanks Anet! Keep it guys
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Dec 01, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24
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#59
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: By the Luxon Scavenger
Guild: The Mentalists [THPK]
Profession: N/
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The BMP is awesome. The weapon thing is nice. The stories are interesting,
And all that for free? Thanks!
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Dec 01, 2007, 01:41 PM // 13:41
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#60
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huh?
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila
Guild: Guildless
Profession: R/
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Have I told you lately that.... I LOVE YOU??????? Well I do.
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