Curse

MisterB · Dec 07, 2007, 07:36 AM // 07:36

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Originally Posted by Lagg

We traveled deep into the fires of The Foundry of Failed Creations, where Ursan Blessing was forged, the one place it could be destroyed.

— ArenaNet! Cast it into the fire! Destroy it!

— No.

— ArenaNeeet!

ArenaNet kept Ursan Blessing. It should have ended that day, but evil was allowed to endure.

Great post. I love The Lord of the Rings. Never cared one way or the other about the One Build(UB) to rule them all. Ursan Blessing is now working as intended, as far as I'm concerned. It's a boring skill.

NeHoMaR · Dec 07, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Ursan from the distance is (was) just a bug. Bears cannot attack from the distance.

zwei2stein · Dec 07, 2007, 07:43 AM // 07:43

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

Too little, too late. Touch Range does little to dent it's effectiveness

That said it.

Really, lol at people who now think that this nerf reduced effectiveness of ursan by measurable margin. Its not like you shouldn't have been in mele range anyway.

Lets see:

* Ignoring all shutdown. check
* Ignoring all defenses. check.
* Armor/Health buff. check.
* 10s recharge AOE interrupt, check.
* Enemybebuff/party buff, check.
* Ability to AOE kdlock enemies with 5 ursans. check.

yeah. its sooooo weak now.

Pupu · Dec 07, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

whinning noobs ruined another skill..keep going guys your doing well moaning gw into the ground..

Squishy ftw · Dec 07, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03

This is hardly worth calling a nerf..UB should get hit by the nerf stick a lot harder IMO.

dont feel no pain · Dec 07, 2007, 08:04 AM // 08:04

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Originally Posted by Pupu

whinning noobs ruined another skill..keep going guys your doing well moaning gw into the ground..

that one was worth moaining about

i love all nerfing, i'd happy be there with that anet keyboard

zwei2stein · Dec 07, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Pupu

whinning noobs ruined another skill..keep going guys your doing well moaning gw into the ground..

Edit:

... as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and realized that there is looming chance they would have to become better players ...

strcpy · Dec 07, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

* 10s recharge AOE interrupt, check.
* Ability to AOE kdlock enemies with 5 ursans. check.

Interestingly enough, this update makes that *easier* since your main skill now takes the same range. In fact, I had always thought that was a large part of the "power" of UB and you were in melee range to begin with.

IMO I found it a buff to the c-space + mash button scheme as your main attack now ensures you are adjacent for the AoE knockdown/damage. Maybe once the QQ'ers figure out what a spamable 2s AoE knockdown actually means (since they apparently weren't using it before) they will be even happier than before - especially so if they ever figure out how to time all their knockdowns instead of just having them all go at once.

leprekan · Dec 07, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Why do you people even care if Timmy the noob can get in a group of pugs? PLEASE give the we want him to get better BS a rest. Those crying for nerfs wouldn't take Timmy the noob even if he got better they have a set of friends and guild they go with already (saying you would and DOING it are not the same thing .. too many examples in the forums of class hate).

PvP calling for nerfs is bad enough. PvE is just retarded .. you have your OWN instance. WHO CARES what Timmy does in his. "Elite" player paid same amount of money for this game that Timmy the "noob" did. Who the hell is "elite" player to try and dictate how Timmy plays. They nerfed the skill for those casters that have trouble getting a group. With the onset of title grind .. many are forced to play one char. Many of those chars happen to be casters. Personally I found my monk friend to be funny as all hell running around with UB. She has played monk since launch was like watching someone release 31 months of pent up frustration.

This is about Epeens and "noobs" encroaching on "elite" players farms. Feel free to call me a noob .. 31 months played and almost 9000 hours logged. My primary char is a warrior so even if I was using UB this wouldnt change anything. Just makes me gag the excuses you people try to float on why you the "elite" feel it should be nerfed.

Anet keep listening to forum people and you will drive so many away that when GW2 launches .. you will sell as many copies as a Vanilla Ice greatest hits cd.

Pupu · Dec 07, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Why do you people even care if Timmy the noob can get in a group of pugs? PLEASE give the we want him to get better BS a rest. Those crying for nerfs wouldn't take Timmy the noob even if he got better they have a set of friends and guild they go with already (saying you would and DOING it are not the same thing .. too many examples in the forums of class hate).

PvP calling for nerfs is bad enough. PvE is just retarded .. you have your OWN instance. WHO CARES what Timmy does in his. "Elite" player paid same amount of money for this game that Timmy the "noob" did. Who the hell is "elite" player to try and dictate how Timmy plays. They nerfed the skill for those casters that have trouble getting a group. With the onset of title grind .. many are forced to play one char. Many of those chars happen to be casters. Personally I found my monk friend to be funny as all hell running around with UB. She has played monk since launch was like watching someone release 31 months of pent up frustration.

This is about Epeens and "noobs" encroaching on "elite" players farms. Feel free to call me a noob .. 31 months played and almost 9000 hours logged. My primary char is a warrior so even if I was using UB this wouldnt change anything. Just makes me gag the excuses you people try to float on why you the "elite" feel it should be nerfed.

Anet keep listening to forum people and you will drive so many away that when GW2 launches .. you will sell as many copies as a Vanilla Ice greatest hits cd.

thats anets biggest mistake, listening to retards on forums.

arcanemacabre · Dec 07, 2007, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by Pupu

thats anets biggest mistake, listening to retards on forums.

Agreed. That's why we have such retarded PvE skills in the first place.

maraxusofk · Dec 07, 2007, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Dont even scapegoat UB as the source of all pve problems. pve became retarded when save yourself came out, making pve a COMPLETE joke. take 1) d-slash war + for great jsutice + save yourself or 2) take focused anger + save yourself + aggressive refrain? UB jsut made pve brokeness across the board, although i dont really care. as stated before, its YOUR OWN PRIVATE INSTANCE with ppl u want to include. if u really wanna qq and dictate wut others do in the first place, have fun being a communist. broken or not, a skill in pve affects ONLY the monsters u fight.

MirkoTeran · Dec 07, 2007, 09:36 AM // 09:36

This was just a dent to its functionality. It still deserves a big nerf along with couple of other PvE skills.

yesitsrob · Dec 07, 2007, 09:38 AM // 09:38

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Originally Posted by Pupu

whinning noobs ruined another skill..keep going guys your doing well moaning gw into the ground..

Some of us actually want there to be a challenge in this game without having to run shit builds and gimp ourselves to create that challenge. Which means SY should be nerfed.

UB is bad, but it allows a bad person to be able to succeed, kind of like IWAY.

Darkobra · Dec 07, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

amen. these god damn whiners qqing about how ub made doa obselete, really need to get over themselves. those comments were the same ones discriminating and preventing others from getting into groups. nice to hear that if i whine loud enough, i could get something too. lets see what we could whine about next.....how about luxon and kurz title tracks being too high?

I'll get right on it. *takes out my vowel keys*

Verek · Dec 07, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

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Dont even scapegoat UB as the source of all pve problems. pve became retarded when save yourself came out, making pve a COMPLETE joke. take 1) d-slash war + for great jsutice + save yourself or 2) take focused anger + save yourself + aggressive refrain? UB jsut made pve brokeness across the board, although i dont really care. as stated before, its YOUR OWN PRIVATE INSTANCE with ppl u want to include. if u really wanna qq and dictate wut others do in the first place, have fun being a communist. broken or not, a skill in pve affects ONLY the monsters u fight.

QFT (bar the bit about being a communist)

yesitsrob · Dec 07, 2007, 09:46 AM // 09:46

Whining doesn't get you anywhere, you have to also be right. That's how it is.

Lagg · Dec 07, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

Dont even scapegoat UB as the source of all pve problems. pve became retarded when save yourself came out, making pve a COMPLETE joke.

Protection against non-armor ignoring damage (and utterly useless if you're tanking properly and the tank is overprotted anyway). Mostly a safeguard in case of broken aggro (heck, it's called Save Yourselves for a reason).

vs.

A skill that kills everything. On any profession. And cannot possibly be stopped.

Save Yourselves and There's Nothing to Fear combined (the combo any PvE Paragon runs these days) is already extremely powerful.

Add Ursan Blessing to that and well, why do we even still play this game? To watch things die as we look at them? Drops? Who cares about those since Greens, craftable Rares and the overall devaluation of everything.

Put the illusion of challenge and creativity (MAI SKILBAR IS UB LAWL) back into PvE please.

aapo · Dec 07, 2007, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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Originally Posted by Update notes

Miscellaneous

* Updated the Ursan Strike, Volfen Claw, and Raven Talons skills to touch range to make them more consistent between the mission versions and the Norn title versions.

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Originally Posted by jammerpa

I've just tested it out and ursan strike only works when you're right next to your target instead of being on the edge of the targets aggro bubble.

- O rly?
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viens87 · Dec 07, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

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Originally Posted by Clarissa F

Yeah. UB use goes in inverse proportion to your skill, and correlates neck-and-neck with your laziness.

People use it 1. Because they haven't the skill to get through the area, or they don't have the patience to wait for a time when enough friends/guildies/alliance members can get together to do it. 2. They just want to get in bad pugs and farm the snot out of an area.

Suck it up, Buttercups!

I use UB because noone take pug mesmer in DoA , UW , FoW etc ..

UB open the gate for me and i can now get to the partys with ursan