Curse

zwei2stein · Dec 09, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

It's impossible to cheapen a title whose only requirements are to spend a lot of money and then spend hours upon hours double clicking once a minute. It's an AI behavior, I can see why they'd want an AI to perform it. Surely it's no one's idea of fun?

Indeed. you really can't cheapen title which theese fellas can obtain:

Clarissa F · Dec 09, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

If you have EotN, you can just use that drunken dwarf skill and go nuts. You can play your character and "get yo crunk on" at the same time.

^^nearly peed myself at that picture.(hmmm, spell check recognizes "peed" as a word)

Vinraith · Dec 09, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Indeed. you really can't cheapen title which theese fellas can obtain:

I wonder if that would count as botting.

MagmaRed · Dec 09, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

How many people double click alcohol, and never chat with guildies, friends, strangers in town? VERY few I'd guess. When I am drinking, I sit in a city. While sitting there, I talk to people in local chat. If others in my guild, or on my friends list are on, I'll talk with them. Why sit and double click, and do nothing else?

Although they would have to have someone report you, or have some odd new way of detecting a bot, you would be quite obvious as a bot using a program like that. Consuming alcohol perfectly (I don't hit at the 60 second mark every time, sometimes its 70 seconds), not using chat, not moving, etc. all scream bot to anyone looking.

Not worth it. Drink when you are waiting to form a team, chatting with friends, or, *gasp* playing the game.

jhu · Dec 09, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

How many people double click alcohol, and never chat with guildies, friends, strangers in town? VERY few I'd guess. When I am drinking, I sit in a city. While sitting there, I talk to people in local chat. If others in my guild, or on my friends list are on, I'll talk with them. Why sit and double click, and do nothing else?

Although they would have to have someone report you, or have some odd new way of detecting a bot, you would be quite obvious as a bot using a program like that. Consuming alcohol perfectly (I don't hit at the 60 second mark every time, sometimes its 70 seconds), not using chat, not moving, etc. all scream bot to anyone looking.

Not worth it. Drink when you are waiting to form a team, chatting with friends, or, *gasp* playing the game.

that's if other people are looking. if you want to do this and fly under the rader, do this out in the explorable zones since no one's around and set yourself to away. it's about the same as death-leveling: no ones knows you're doing it.

not that i would waste my money on such an endeavor. 2 million gold for max title is a waste of money (and time doing it the normal way).

Harrier's haste · Dec 09, 2007, 09:17 PM // 21:17

what's the point of having a drunkerard title anyways, all you show is how 'lifeless' you're and how many hours you spend making money. Or "cough" buying them.

Kook~NBK~ · Dec 09, 2007, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by Antheus

Does double click approximately once a minute count as "bot behavior"?

If so, pray tell, how can one advance drunkard title without wasting time.

Drunkard title is a title that can *only* be obtained with "bot behavior".

IF that's all you're doing when standing around town. Many aspiring Drunkards do other things while drinking - chatting, answering questions, buying & selling, etc.

As for ANY bot program, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole!

HawkofStorms · Dec 09, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by flubber

that 'bot' is perfect keylogger size.

Agreed. That is a bot macro and would be against the EULA. It could also contain malicious programs. Suggest removal of link from the OP.

And also, the difference between "bot like behavior" and a real person drinking is that the bot will be able to go for like 9 hours straight. A real person will have to go to the bathroom, eat, make mistakes and click one to many ale every couple hours, sleep, etc.

Johnny_Chang · Dec 09, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

I say do it and find out. And then when time passes let us know the result. The only way to know for sure

Nian · Dec 09, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

I love how the OP removes the link to protect *others* than himself from getting tempted! Tsk tsk.

MMSDome · Dec 09, 2007, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Nian

I love how the OP removes the link to protect *others* than himself from getting tempted! Tsk tsk.

i dont get whats wrong with that?

Amy Awien · Dec 10, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

It's common sense. Why would anyone release such soft ... out of goodness of their heart?

Challenge, accomplishment, interest, recognition, feeling helpful. Why would anyone help another human at all? Why would one show (off) their work?

I've written plenty of scripts and programs that in the end cost me more time developing them then when I'd just done whatever they did myself. It was still fun, I why should I no

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Originally Posted by zerulus

Y... I don't think anet actually has a method for determining bots, they just select a random group ban them all and assume the bots won't appeal the action.

That would be rather expensive in all the hours they'd spend handling the appeals. Appropriate data-mining can significantly reduce the amount of incorrect bannings and thus the time - and image - lost processing appeals.

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

... Consuming alcohol perfectly (I don't hit at the 60 second mark every time, sometimes its 70 seconds) ...

Tn = 60 + Random(30);

Burst Cancel · Dec 10, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36

In this case I'd be more worried about h4xx0rz than the EULA.

Zeek Aran · Dec 10, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

I really wish they'd just change the damn thing. If you can't possibly be pushed to get a timer and stick to it, I'd suggest using it only and ONLY while you are at the computer, chatting or selling, and not AFK.

dargon · Dec 10, 2007, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Simply put, if you have to ask, chances are it's bannable

WinterSnowblind · Dec 10, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

That guy completed Eye of the North for me!

Chrono Re delle Ere · Dec 10, 2007, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Seems quite obvious that it is bannable.

Day Trooper · Dec 10, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

It's impossible to cheapen a title whose only requirements are to spend a lot of money and then spend hours upon hours double clicking once a minute.

It definitely is possible to cheapen the title by having a bot double-click drinks for you while you're afk - as opposed to you double-clicking the drinks yourself for 10,000 minutes worth of drinks. Like it or not - this is a grind title and having the bot do the work for you greatly removes the grind factor from acquiring the minutes.

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

It's an AI behavior, I can see why they'd want an AI to perform it. Surely it's no one's idea of fun?.

While it may be an AI behavior - the fact is there's no in-game functionality to acquire drunk minutes other than double-clicking drinks. So this tells me that ANet wants players to double-click drinks - and not have an outside bot do the work for them.

While I do agree that racking up 10,000 drunk minutes isn't the most fun thing in the world - this is what the title requires. Yes it's mindless - but I'm pretty sure ANet didn't want a bot to do the work for you. Otherwise, as stated above, they would have included some in-game functionality to acquire drunk minutes.

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

Now all that said, I'm sure this piece of software is not allowed under the EULA.

/agree with you here. Without question this is a bot...

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Originally Posted by dargon

Simply put, if you have to ask, chances are it's bannable

LOL! QFT 100%...

Griff Mon · Dec 10, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Turn off post process effects. Keep inventory and title counter open. Consume alcohol. Play game as you normally would. The only problem is that if you get into something that takes up all of your attention, you may get behind on your booze clicks. And that little annoying bit of drunk animations which can make you miss a step step at a critical time.

garethporlest18 · Dec 10, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

95% of 3rd party programs are keyloggers to steal your account, never try to take the easy way out cause you'll lose everything.

No one playing a game is lifeless, because then they would not be breathing. Think logically.

To get max drunkard, pick a town and talk or go afk play another game/watch TV/read/ do something with your significant other..whatever.