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Cebe · Dec 13, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by foo

Invalid point imo.
then why are there statues for the deep and urgoz?
(and there are many more examples. it's likely that anet will change it in the future).

Prophecies has Sorrow's Furnace, Elona has DoA, Factions has Deep/Urgoz. Ok, Factions has two, but you HAVE to own one of those three games to use Eye of the North, so EVERYONE has access to an "elite" area for the monument, not to mention the two Core elite areas.

If you could only put Eye of the North titles in there it would look very sparse

doinchi · Dec 13, 2007, 01:43 PM // 13:43

If they want to give a reward for weapons in HoM in GW2, make a few reward weapons for GW2 and no matter what weapon you put in you get the same reward. I like my Ice Breaker and IDS because they were the first weapons I really used. Making 15 slots for weapons when there are only about 3 kinds of weapons for a class is plain stupid in my opinion.

JeniM · Dec 13, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by Haijiibirdhead

Ok I went to the Hall of Monuments, thinking that I coud add Tormented Weapons to the Valor one.

But no , It said that only the greatest of weapons can be accepted...

It was then that I had a big wtf moment,Then I saw that it inly accepts destroyer weapons.

I was like , a Tormented weapon isnT GREAT enough? but a Destroyer Weapon is?

Why? I mean whats the story explanation for this? and even if there is one , arent Tormented weapons harder to get?

For the life of me I just dont get it. Its so Insulting to the poor Margonites dontcha think.

It would be way to much hasstle for Anet to code it to show everyskin
Before you say you don't want it to display EVERY skin just torments, but then they do that and next person wants xxx skin then this person wants yyy skin and Anet finally have to say no and people would cry more they let other skins in but not their favorite

boxterduke · Dec 13, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Between myself and I, I believe 100% that Anet will enable us to add any weapon we want in a future update.
Thats what they do all the time, and when they do, the masses come back to GW to take advantage of the new update.

Cebe · Dec 13, 2007, 01:52 PM // 13:52

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Originally Posted by doinchi

If they want to give a reward for weapons in HoM in GW2, make a few reward weapons for GW2 and no matter what weapon you put in you get the same reward.

About the rewards..do we even know what they're going to be? How do we know the reward for the Valor Monument wond just be "If you have at least 1 weapon in your Valor Monument you will receive one rare GW:2 weapon of your choosing, customised to your character"?

People should save their complaining until we find out if the rewards for filling this monument are actually worth having.

jezz · Dec 13, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

i am not at all concerned about weapons in HoM atm...
if they are to be some sort of bonus/reward in GW2...why would you want old weapon skins for GW2, NEW GAME = NEW WEAPON SKINS..

when GW2 comes out players will more than likely get tired of those old skins...IMHO

Interesting idea Celestial Beaver...looking forward to see what they come up with.

Big_Iron · Dec 13, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58

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Originally Posted by boxterduke

Between myself and I, I believe 100% that Anet will enable us to add any weapon we want in a future update.
Thats what they do all the time, and when they do, the masses come back to GW to take advantage of the new update.

My heart keeps telling me the same thing boxterduke. I really hope you're right.

zwei2stein · Dec 13, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

People should save their complaining until we find out if the rewards for filling this monument are actually worth having.

Then, it would be too late.

iirc, it was said that once gw2 is released and rewards known, HOM will be frozen and no new stuff will be addable to prevent non-veterans from doing exactly what you suggested - waiting it out and doing only "worthy" monuments.

Its basically BMP story. Reward is big "?". with ? reward, it will be epic qq fest no matter what anet does - When you cannot make informed choice, you are going to feel like qq both when you forgo it and find out rewards are good or when you go for it and reward would suck.

Cebe · Dec 13, 2007, 02:15 PM // 14:15

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Then, it would be too late.

iirc, it was said that once gw2 is released and rewards known, HOM will be frozen and no new stuff will be addable to prevent non-veterans from doing exactly what you suggested - waiting it out and doing only "worthy" monuments.

Its basically BMP story. Reward is big "?". with ? reward, it will be epic qq fest no matter what anet does - When you cannot make informed choice, you are going to feel like qq both when you forgo it and find out rewards are good or when you go for it and reward would suck.

You make a good point actually.

Well, as you were lads.

I'm going to bow out of this before the "epic qq fest" gets too loud and it deafens me. It's only a matter of time.

Mordakai · Dec 13, 2007, 02:25 PM // 14:25

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Originally Posted by JeniM

It would be way to much hasstle for Anet to code it to show everyskin
Before you say you don't want it to display EVERY skin just torments, but then they do that and next person wants xxx skin then this person wants yyy skin and Anet finally have to say no and people would cry more they let other skins in but not their favorite

Seriously?

They have no problem putting every mini in the HoM. No problem with all the Elite armors. No problem with all 25 Heros and 4 pet models. No problem with over 20 Titles, plus misc. statues for things like clearing elite areas.

But they can only put in 11 Weapons? I don't see why they couldn't add more weapons, the skins already exist, it's just a matter of letting said skins be displayed in a static environment.

I too hope this is changed, but I'm not counting on it. At least Destroyer Weapons are affordable.

Sleeper Service · Dec 13, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35

yeah its a terrible state of affairs. Personally i would have loved to put my greens in the HoM. :s

Shadowmoon · Dec 13, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

People in guru are to damn short sighted, Armbraces, the item used for getting torment has largely duped this pass sumer. THESE DUPED ITEMS WERE NOT DELITED. Accounts who did the duping were closed, but trade using them were not rolled back. Remember the first r 9 enternal sword, how high to went for. Show how much that dupe messed with the high end market.
Rewards for a known mass duped item would be irresponible.

Sparda · Dec 13, 2007, 02:53 PM // 14:53

IMO it is bad that they only allow Destroyer Weapons.
Sure for some people will complain and rant till there Torment Weapons can be put in.
For me the HoM is just a thing to exclude some type of players.
(PLZ remember weapons are still made all the same way only with another skin so if you add a Torment weapon and/or a Tengu Weapon they are still the same.)
IMHO They reward the High end big shots of the game who are just stupid enough to fill her up to max (HoM).
So yes i believe that some greens and/or golds should be allowed to put in HoM or GW2 will begin in a bad way in my eyes.
Then you will see who had the cash and people who did not oh yea and people who where smart enough to skip this money sink how some of you can it.
And the idea of freezing the add of weapons when GW2 comes out is bad also.
What if i choose to play GW1 and want my new char name to skip to GW2 i can't get any of that stuff i put in course they froze the add off weapons and/or other stuff.

PLZ do not Flame my Opinion where i come from we have freedom of speech.

Lil Mystique · Dec 13, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Seriously?

They have no problem putting every mini in the HoM. No problem with all the Elite armors. No problem with all 25 Heros and 4 pet models. No problem with over 20 Titles, plus misc. statues for things like clearing elite areas.

But they can only put in 11 Weapons? I don't see why they couldn't add more weapons, the skins already exist, it's just a matter of letting said skins be displayed in a static environment.

I too hope this is changed, but I'm not counting on it. At least Destroyer Weapons are affordable.

You're forgetting that they might have to code for every possible mod combination as well.

max gladius · Dec 13, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59

yes this is quite old news... everyone just needs to realize that 70k crafter weapos PWN everything else thinkable ingame... even though they r ugly as piss....

anet is to busy banning ppl moving money between accounts and for what someone calls an offensive name... and to busy pissing in the wind to worry about actually fixing / changing the game to where ppl are happy

Savio · Dec 13, 2007, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

They have no problem putting every mini in the HoM. No problem with all the Elite armors. No problem with all 25 Heros and 4 pet models. No problem with over 20 Titles, plus misc. statues for things like clearing elite areas.

50 title/achievement statues is significantly less than 700+ weapon skins/names. If you want to add unique items, that's another 600-some.

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Originally Posted by Sparda

So yes i believe that some greens and/or golds should be allowed to put in HoM or GW2 will begin in a bad way in my eyes.

And which players would be able to afford all of the greens and golds that are allowed? Rich players. Seriously, Destroyer weapons aren't as expensive as some of the elite armors.

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where i come from we have freedom of speech.

Good for you, this is the Internet.

zwei2stein · Dec 13, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by Lil Mystique

You're forgetting that they might have to code for every possible mod combination as well.

Why?

Anyway, destroyer weapons can have every possible mod combination. (hello, were inscribable and accept other mods as well.)

Lil Mystique · Dec 13, 2007, 03:28 PM // 15:28

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Why?

Anyway, destroyer weapons can have every possible mod combination. (hello, were inscribable and accept other mods as well.)

Mods for 11 skins is quite a bit less than for 700+ skins. I don't know if they do store the mods, but they might.

Meat Axe · Dec 13, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

iirc, it was said that once gw2 is released and rewards known, HOM will be frozen and no new stuff will be addable to prevent non-veterans from doing exactly what you suggested - waiting it out and doing only "worthy" monuments.

Where did you read that? I read somewhere (I can't for the life of me remember where) that even after GW2 release, you'll be able to go back to GW1 and add to your HoM.

I honestly don't see why they wouldn't allow this. Sure, if people want to waste time waiting for the information about rewards in GW2 and then go back and fill their HoM, then let them. And it's not like non-veteran players will be doing that. It takes quite a long time to fill a HoM. It's not like someone can go buy GW1, get to EotN and suddenly have a completely full HoM.

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Originally Posted by Lil Mystique

Mods for 11 skins is quite a bit less than for 700+ skins. I don't know if they do store the mods, but they might.

The Hall doesn't detect what mods are on a weapon. It only detects the skin (which at the moment is only Destroyer, and I don't see that changing anytime soon).

Lil Mystique · Dec 13, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

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Originally Posted by Meat Axe

The Hall doesn't detect what mods are on a weapon. It only detects the skin (which at the moment is only Destroyer, and I don't see that changing anytime soon).

You know that for a fact? It seems likely, but this is Anet we're talking about ;p