Curse

MsMassacre · Nov 09, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34

A 2 second cast makes LoD worthless. I'm not going to bother arguing which heals are better in the wake of this because I don't care. My healer heroes will have to be reconfigured. No biggie. The one I feel sorry for is EOTN Mhenlo. LoD was the main reason I used to take him, and now I'm going to have to think twice about that. I would hope anet would tweak his build to compensate, but I know better than to expect that sort of thing from them.

Is the change to oppressive gaze a nerf or a buff? I kinda prefered the old version I think.

The nerf to splinter-barrage isn't REALLY that big a deal. To be honest, splinter barrage is overrated. It is not so good that my ranger runs it to the exclusion of other builds, and the nerf is a rather reasonable one. After all, splinter barrage will still WORK, it just won't be quite as potent as before on clumps of >3 enemies. No biggie. This is the kind of nerf I'd like to see more of if we have to have nerfs.

Hello? Paragons? Are they still a part of GW?

Grammar · Nov 09, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Nerf LoD's healing power by 10hp = good and correct decision

Nerf LoD's cast time to 2 seconds = idiotic decision resulting from a bafflingly unacceptable level of incompetence

If they wanted to nerf LoD beyond -10hp, take it down to -20hp. But the 2 second cast time is inexcusable.

twicky_kid · Nov 09, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by Grammar

Nerf LoD's healing power by 10hp = good and correct decision

Nerf LoD's cast time to 2 seconds = idiotic decision resulting from a bafflingly unacceptable level of incompetence

If they wanted to nerf LoD beyond -10hp, take it down to -20hp. But the 2 second cast time is inexcusable.

It needed to be removed from play to encourage splits in GvG.

Big_Daddy · Nov 09, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Dang, I sometimes use Oppressive Gaze on my Necro, and that modification to the skill is really going to hurt that build that I made up.. back to the drawing board.

The only other skill modification that had me worried for a second was the Splinter Weapon, but then I remembered that I only use it on my Ranger along with Barrage, so it is as if nothing happened, right?... RIGHT???

makosi · Nov 09, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls

WTF is this "Paragon" you speak of?

It's that character with the gold shiny wings that you use to store mods and inscriptions.

It's a miracle they never got nerfed once again. Perhaps there's nothing left to nerf.

street peddler · Nov 09, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

why arent the changes appearing in game

Hott Bill · Nov 09, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Glimmer of Light buff = FTMFW!!!!
LoD Nerf = FTL!

mrmango · Nov 09, 2007, 12:50 AM // 00:50

It's something to be implemented soon, probably tomorrow.
(thanks for the complement

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The Meth · Nov 09, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by makosi

It's that character with the gold shiny wings that you use to store mods and inscriptions.

It's a miracle they never got nerfed once again. Perhaps there's nothing left to nerf.

LoL, you must have missed the Paragon change:

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

Leadership: This attribute now causes exhaustion every time a shout is used.

Bo Azum · Nov 09, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by street peddler

why arent the changes appearing in game

Because, apparently, we are not supposed to know of them yet. They were put on, but later removed.

Avatar Exico · Nov 09, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Ya if this will happen. Say Good Bye to HB Monks they just got destroyed. duration on it, but has unlimited casts but comeon HB was nice addition to heros and now with Duration. Nope not liking that.

øln · Nov 09, 2007, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I would guess the reason for changing HB to duration, is to make it unusable by non-monk primaries.
It's better for monks now tbh.

Trub · Nov 09, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11

The splinter weapon 'nerf' isn't going to hurt too much..just take another 2-3 seconds longer to kill the mobs...no biggie..

(Those targeted 3 are dooooooooomed!!)
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PvE Helpful Hint # 9921: What do a Paragon and a drunk have in common?
ANSWER: They both run around pantless shouting at people!

lutz · Nov 09, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

The pvpers have been crying for a nerf to LoD for ages, and the buff to Blight and WoH is nice.

When are the in-game updates coming? I want to try this new stuff out

When? PvPers never asked for anywhere near an LoD nerf, LoD was also fine.
The nerf is random.

Rexion · Nov 09, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by makosi

It's that character with the gold shiny wings that you use to store mods and inscriptions.

It's a miracle they never got nerfed once again. Perhaps there's nothing left to nerf.

they also don't wear pants...

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Originally Posted by Hott Bill

Glimmer of Light buff = FTMFW!!!!
LoD Nerf = FTL!

you FTW @ glimmer... what is wrong with you?

Snow Bunny · Nov 09, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by lutz

When? PvPers never asked for anywhere near an LoD nerf, LoD was also fine.
The nerf is random.

Read threads on why LoD was a problem. It was the backbone of the entire team.

lutz · Nov 09, 2007, 01:18 AM // 01:18

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

LoD nerf is good. Teams rely on it too much to hold their stand teams together. Now that LoD has been removed more split tactics will happen making more tactical and thought out plans in GvG battles.

No, actually, LoD is relied on to support split teams a little while holding together the stand team at the same time. It's also mostly to counter the lamest build alive - hexes.

Splits are not always tactical. Tactics is knowing when to split and knowing how to split, and if stand teams are how you can capitalize on what you do best.

LoD is imba because it's free, right?

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Read threads on why LoD was a problem. It was the backbone of the entire team.

Troll threads? Show me where. LoD has never been a problem. As a 1 second cast and an elite (Signet of Humility) it's ridiculously easy to shut down. Nothing's wrong with it.

Asrial · Nov 09, 2007, 01:24 AM // 01:24

My thoughts on the MONK changes (since I primarily play a monk):

Healer's Boon: this is a MAJOR BENEFIT to primary monks (who can remember to keep it up), especially heroes (who never forget to keep it up)

Healing Breeze: I "might" add this to my hero monk (with the change to Healer's Boon) but REGEN healing skills have always been bad overall because of enchantment removal

Heal Party: More health is always a good thing

LoD: Should be interesting to see the ramifications of this. Perhaps a Mesmer LoD monk? There's no longer a conditional requirement so that's definitely a plus for it.

Restful Breeze: the ultimate healing skill for those who heal outside battle (IE: runners)

Word of Healing: WOW! You can target yourself now. I may be switching my monk healing build back to Word of Healing

garethporlest18 · Nov 09, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27

HB monks didn't get destroyed, maybe heroes did using that skill but not HB monks themselves, it got a nice boost. If the recharge is under 55 seconds, you'll get it every 55 seconds for 5 energy..dont see how that's bad at all.

Hott Bill · Nov 09, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Rexion

they also don't wear pants...

you FTW @ glimmer... what is wrong with you?

Why do I think the buff is a good thing? Because Glimmer of Light is a highly effective healing spell, with a 1/4 casting time and a 2s recharge you could spam that, but NOW more health (A good thing last time I checked) and a FASTER recharge (Also I good thing)