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Old Dec 26, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07   #21
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He never said it was good. He just said it got him glad points.

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Old Dec 26, 2007, 06:26 PM // 18:26   #22
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Well, as for Heal as one being over powered, I disagree. 25% health is a small window which to activate it in a lot of cases, especially when you're being knocked down or spiked. It's balenced.

But when it comes to an effective Assasin, I can see something like this in RA.

12 pts- BM
12 +1 pts- Dagger Mastery
3 +2 pts- Shadow Arts

[skill]heal as one[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill] [skill]Otyugh's Cry[/skill] [skill]shroud of distress[/skill][skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]fox fangs[/skill][skill]nine tail strike[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

~Edit, Otyugh's Cry is innacurate. It prevents your pet from being blocked with a +24 Armor Bonus.

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Old Dec 26, 2007, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #23
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No, he's a loser for thinking that build is good because it wins in RA, please read.
The build works... and if I got enough wins, it has it's merits.

But if I *really* wanted a perfect build to maximize my win ratio I won't be playing Sins to start.

Before the shitstorm starts I am not saying Sins are bad, or can't win a lot, I just saying I think there are better classes to farm glad points.

To whoever asked about the build...

I didn't post my build because people would jump and say "RA builds should be posted on the PvP forum" or something similar, but this just show you really can't win some battles.

The build, however, isn't my point... I am just saying Heal as One is a impressive heal (elite or not), and Beast Mastery has some interesting skills to boot.

It's important to note if a Sin try to make a different build, it is instantly labeled as a bad build, but if he goes with the classic "shadowstep + LOD" he is a 1234 noob wiki-sin.

Again, can't win.
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Old Dec 26, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02   #24
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Well, as for Heal as one being over powered, I disagree. 25% health is a small window which to activate it in a lot of cases, especially when you're being knocked down or spiked. It's balenced.

But when it comes to an effective Assasin, I can see something like this in RA.

12 pts- BM
12 +1 pts- Dagger Mastery
3 +2 pts- Shadow Arts

[skill]heal as one[/skill][skill]charm animal[/skill] [skill]Otyugh's Cry[/skill] [skill]shroud of distress[/skill][skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]fox fangs[/skill][skill]nine tail strike[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

~Edit, Otyugh's Cry is innacurate. It prevents your pet from being blocked with a +24 Armor Bonus.
Mmm, I use [skill]Disrupting Lunge[/skill] [skill]Jagged Strike[/skill] [skill]Wild Strike[/skill] [skill]Run as One[/skill][skill]Heal as One[/skill][skill]Nine Tail Strike[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]

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Old Dec 26, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03   #25
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The build works... and if I got enough wins, it has it's merits.
I could enter RA with no skills on my bar and get wins, so now that has merit too?
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I could enter RA with no skills on my bar and get wins, so now that has merit too?
This build worked on TA too, just to clarify.
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I could enter RA with no skills on my bar and get wins, so now that has merit too?
A 25 win streak means 15 of those battles were fought in TA. But I guess TA is for noobs to and any build will work.
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This build worked on TA too, just to clarify.
i got 30~ wins with shock, aegis, convert hexes, purge, zb, gole, purge conditions and ps on my monk.

do i need to say more?

ps, that's a pretty terrible build. :/
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A 25 win streak means 15 of those battles were fought in TA. But I guess TA is for noobs to and any build will work.
A large number of teams in TA come from RA. RA is scrubville. See where I'm going with this?

Doesn't even factor in the number of bad teams that form in TA.
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i got 30~ wins with shock, aegis, convert hexes, purge, zb, gole, purge conditions and ps on my monk.

do i need to say more?

ps, that's a pretty terrible build. :/
What makes a good build so? The build works, gave me consecutive wins and lots of funny (or irate) comment about the players I fought along and against.

Any build which make me win and have a fun time is good in my book.
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Old Dec 26, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29   #31
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What makes a good build so? The build works, gave me consecutive wins and lots of funny (or irate) comment about the players I fought along and against.

Any build which make me win and have a fun time is good in my book.
I think the point is that a good team of 3 can drag a bad player along for a few glad pts; and that RA/TA is full of horrible teams that have no idea how to play.
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I've always felt that HaO is one of the most worthless elites in Guild Wars outside of Hero Battles.

After reading this thread I still feel the same way. However, I am glad to hear you are happy with your success. All I can say is don't change it if its working.
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Old Dec 26, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30   #33
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A large number of teams in TA come from RA. RA is scrubville. See where I'm going with this?

Doesn't even factor in the number of bad teams that form in TA.
I see... elitism.
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I see... elitism.
I see common sense.
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I see... elitism.
Odd, I saw the truth. But hey, if you felt offended for some reason, feel free to use "elitism" to help you feel better. That's what all the cool PvE/RA/AB kids do these days, isn't it? "I was running X" "X is bad" "You elitist prick! QQ"
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Shock on a Monk? Get serious, use Crip Shot like I do, the can't kill ya if they can't catch ya.

If you got 25 win with that build I'm going to guess you had team mates that were upset with having to drag you through them. Thre are a massive aray of better heals to go with a Sin than that.

I hope your 8th skill was a rez.

Yes your being flamed for being out of the norm, but come on. How many other win streaks did you/do you get with it? What were your team mates proffesions and builds on that run?
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Odd, I saw the truth. But hey, if you felt offended for some reason, feel free to use "elitism" to help you feel better. That's what all the cool PvE/RA/AB kids do these days, isn't it? "I was running X" "X is bad" "You elitist prick! QQ"
This is the true sign of elitism, you think your playstyle is "superior" and in a attempt to raise it's prestige, you devalue other people ones.

You even have a classical ad hominem, in which you value your maturity pointing the apparent infantility of other players. Kids play RA/AB, I am not a kid because I don't play it.

The irony of being "mature" by playing a game amaze me.
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Best threads ever. PVP people crying about who has more skill in Guild Wars of all games. Love it.
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Shock on a Monk? Get serious, use Crip Shot like I do, the can't kill ya if they can't catch ya.

If you got 25 win with that build I'm going to guess you had team mates that were upset with having to drag you through them. Thre are a massive aray of better heals to go with a Sin than that.

I hope your 8th skill was a rez.

Yes your being flamed for being out of the norm, but come on. How many other win streaks did you/do you get with it? What were your team mates proffesions and builds on that run?
We had a Sin with Sight Beyond Sight and a Thumper with Death Charge. None of then never complained in any moment about skill or playstile, we just played the game.

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